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Homosexual Attorneys from Justice Department Advise Philadelphia Police On Arresting Christians
AFA ^ | Donald Wildmon

Posted on 01/08/2005 4:57:49 PM PST by Cedar

UPDATE: Homosexual Attorneys from Justice Department Advise Philadelphia Police On Arresting Christians One Internet news service says not to expect an investigation because of the involvement of the Justice Department homosexual attorneys

A few days ago I wrote you about the situation in Philadelphia in which four Christians were arrested. They are charged with eight crimes, including three felonies: possession of instruments of crime (a bullhorn), ethnic intimidation (saying that homosexuality is a sin), and inciting a riot (reading from the Bible some passages relating to homosexuality) despite the fact that no riot occurred.

They face a possible 47 years in prison and fines of $90,000 each. Now we have learned more about this horrible travesty of justice.

According to WorldNetDaily, "Homosexual attorneys from the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division not only attended (the) large homosexual event…but they advised police on the scene who arrested 11 Christian protesters, says a source in the agency." (Charges against some of the Christians have been dropped.)

The WorldNetDaily article went on to say the U.S. Justice Department is "not likely to take up the cause of the five criminally charged Christians who believe Philadelphia officials violated their civil rights."

Did you catch that? The Justice Department will refuse to investigate the treatment of the arrested Christians because some homosexual attorneys from the Justice Department were advising the Philadelphia police on how to arrest the Christians!!!!

WorldNetDaily, quoting their source inside the Justice Department, said the Christians were charged with "ethic intimidation (hate crimes) 'at the recommendation of some of our (Department of Justice) attorneys who were at the march.'"

In fact, Chief Inspector Tiano, who serves as liaison to the homosexual community, testified at the preliminary hearing that he met at least four times with the organizers of the Outfest event in anticipation of the protesters' activities, presumably to discuss how to handle the "Christians" when they showed up at the event. He also said he had 40 officers on site that day. He did not meet with any of the Christians!

There appears to be collusion in this travesty of justice that goes to high levels of both the Justice Department and Philadelphia. A trail date will be set soon.

Would you stand with these Christians who are defending our constitutional right of free speech? We are asking you to stand with these four Christians.


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1 posted on 01/08/2005 4:57:49 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

afapetition@lists.afa.net


2 posted on 01/08/2005 5:04:08 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Cedar; Cindy; DAVEY CROCKETT

Ping


3 posted on 01/08/2005 5:04:50 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: Cedar
Chief Inspector Tiano, who serves as liaison to the homosexual community, testified at the preliminary hearing that he met at least four times with the organizers of the Outfest event in anticipation of the protesters' activities, presumably to discuss how to handle the "Christians" when they showed up at the event. He also said he had 40 officers on site that day. He did not meet with any of the Christians!

Correction: Tiano DID "meet with Christians" -- TO ARREST THEM!

The person of Chief Inspector Uber-Fuehrer Tiano is the Heinrich Himmler for the Gay "Legal" Cabal of Philadephia.

Zeig Heil, Herr Tiano!

4 posted on 01/08/2005 5:05:28 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Islam is a religion of peace.

Queers are a movement of peace.

Any questions ?


5 posted on 01/08/2005 5:06:21 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: chicagolady

Thanks for that link.

There is also a way to send an email directly to the Justice Department by going to the AFA page link posted in the heading of this thread.

(This is the link I wanted to put in but couldn't.)


6 posted on 01/08/2005 5:07:21 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

http://www.afa.net/Petitions/TakeAction.asp?id=113


7 posted on 01/08/2005 5:10:01 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Cedar

We got to stick together, it will be us next!


8 posted on 01/08/2005 5:11:25 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Cedar
Click here for outcome on hearing.
9 posted on 01/08/2005 5:13:22 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Cedar

An antichristian gay agenda? Nawwww, couldn't be! </sarc>


10 posted on 01/08/2005 5:13:25 PM PST by Kerfuffle
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To: Cedar

Thought I read that the charges were dismissed.


11 posted on 01/08/2005 5:14:00 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: chicagolady

Thanks for your technical talent. :)

And yes, we hear the sound of approaching boots.......

(Some FReepers will think we're exaggerating, but it is sometimes little by little that the dam breaks.)


12 posted on 01/08/2005 5:16:06 PM PST by Cedar
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
 
Report Says Homosexual, Federal, DOJ Lawyers Complicit in Arrest of Christians
 
PA Christians face 47 years for reading Bible in public and condemning homosexuality and abortion
 
U.S. attorneys complicit in arrest of Christians?


13 posted on 01/08/2005 5:16:40 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 147,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I went to your link, and someone posted there saying that this is still not over.

They posted this link for further info:

http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com/


14 posted on 01/08/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

ping


15 posted on 01/08/2005 5:21:55 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Cedar

We should all email the justice dept. and our congressmen and senators and DEMAND an investigation into this. This is an extremely serious situation. When I first heard the story, I didn't know the ones prosecuting the case were homosexual and I couldn't understand how something like this could possibly happen in the US. But after more of the story came out it became clear how it could happen. Because of everyone's fears of lawsuits for "discrimination", governments are forced to hire homosexuals who will use their office for a personal agenda and not to do the job they were hired to do. People need to be fired over this incident. If not, this is only the beginning of what the homosexual agenda will be able to accomplish. I do not believe the government should condone homosexuality.


16 posted on 01/08/2005 5:27:30 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: anniegetyourgun

Other posts on that previous thread are saying charges WERE dropped, but the people were not acquitted.

I'll keep looking. I don't want to be posting an out-of-date thread.

If anyone else has updated info on this, it would be great if you'd post a link or something for us here.

Thanks!


17 posted on 01/08/2005 5:28:45 PM PST by Cedar
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To: connectthedots

"Thought I read that the charges were dismissed."

I'm trying to find out for sure.


18 posted on 01/08/2005 5:30:16 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...
Y'all have got to see this!

ProLife/Breakpoint personal prerogative Ping!


19 posted on 01/08/2005 5:52:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A mike ruler, an old schooler...drivin' in my car, livin' like a star...)
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To: All

The articles I've found on google so far seem to all say that charges were dropped just against seven people, but four people were still charged.

Here is a quote from an article by Michael J. Gaynor, written January 6, 2005:

"Last October 10, eleven Christians associated with Repent America began preaching and singing at OutFest, a homosexual street event.

The Christians, led by Repent America founder Michael Marcavage, were surrounded by the Pink Angels, a group of homosexuals who held up Styrofoam signs, blocking the group.

Police arrested only the Christians.

Last month, after viewing a videotape of the incident, Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan dropped charges against six other defendants, including a 72-year-old grandmother.

The eleventh, a juvenile, is awaiting separate court action.

The Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, called the defendants "hateful" and referred to preaching the Bible as "fighting words."

The four adult defendants face a total of 47 years in prison if convicted of the three felonies and five misdemeanors with which they were charged.

They pled not guilty.

According to Mr. Knight: “The felony charges in particular are outrageous. We’re talking about expressing an opinion in a public area. This shows why ‘hate crime’ laws are a threat to the freedoms of speech and assembly, and are a tool for crushing Christian evangelism.” (end of quoted Gaynor material).

Another Jan. 6 article, found at the Christian Post, states basically the same thing, that four people are still facing charges. Here is the link for that article:

http://www.christianpost.com/article/society/1303/section/christians.arrested.for.protesting.homosexual.street.fair.now.acquitted/1.htm

I'll keep searching to see if something else is more recent.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 6:00:55 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

bump


21 posted on 01/08/2005 6:23:47 PM PST by SausageDog
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To: Coleus

Thanks for those links, Coleus.

The situation doesn't look good at all.

Hope all of us Christians are ready to (possibly) go to jail in the (near?) future for defending the Gospel.

Let's all pray to stay true to the Lord, regardless of the circumstances.


22 posted on 01/08/2005 6:24:18 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Look for thinks in NJ to heat up!


23 posted on 01/08/2005 6:27:19 PM PST by Coleus (Let us pray for the 147,000 + victims of the tsunami and the 126,000 aborted Children killed daily)
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To: Cedar; little jeremiah; ArGee; Bryan; scripter; William Terrell; Clint N. Suhks; tdadams; ...
I'm not believing this stuff. Is Bill Clinton still President of the United States?

Time to clean house at Reno Justice.

Pinging.........

24 posted on 01/08/2005 6:29:42 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Cedar
since when is homosexuality an ethnicity?
25 posted on 01/08/2005 6:31:22 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: mlc9852

"governments are forced to hire homosexuals who will use their office for a personal agenda"

I had never considered the effect of that in the legal system until this incident. Talk about huge ramifications.....


26 posted on 01/08/2005 6:32:22 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar
This is what we have to look forward to under the hate crime legislation that is being debated and will be debated over the next ten to twenty years.

We are missionaries and were criminally charged with "Offending the Religious Feelings [of a religious cult]" by the Philippines government more than two years ago. We were mobbed and accosted and illegally detained by the cult, but we were the ones charged with offending their feelings. The Philippines is supposed to be a free country too, and has as its governmental model the US Constitution, but it is a phony democracy, just like the USA is becoming through the mis-behavior of public officials, left-wing lawyers and the courts.
27 posted on 01/08/2005 6:33:25 PM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Cedar

Incredible.


28 posted on 01/08/2005 6:34:52 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: anniegetyourgun
Click here for outcome on hearing.

When I click on this, it takes me to a post that says a judge dropped the charges against the four men after viewing the videotape. However, if I click on the original link that is the source of that article, the words appear to have been inserted in there--they do not appear in the original text.

I can't find any evidence that the charges against the four have been dropped. Charges against six others were dropped after the judge viewed the video, but these four still appear to be facing charges.

29 posted on 01/08/2005 6:35:30 PM PST by freespirited
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To: connectthedots; Cedar

Charges were dropped on some of the other Christians that were arrested that day.


30 posted on 01/08/2005 6:35:49 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Cedar

I went to news.google.com and searched "Michael Marcavage" and Outfest. I did not see anything indicating that the charges have been dismissed.


31 posted on 01/08/2005 6:40:58 PM PST by freespirited
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To: Free Baptist; All
Well just consider it this way:
Free Republic has been gagged by lawsuits, forcing a statement on the homepage and causing many provocative FReeper posts to be removed. Contrast that with the DUmmie site where everything goes.
Our government refuses to protect it's citizens from illegal aliens, both organized and petty criminals, and corrupt political parties. We accept it though, gladly.
32 posted on 01/08/2005 6:43:04 PM PST by olde north church (I think, therefore iMac.)
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To: Cedar
These Justice Department Fag activists are the sole property of George W. Bush and lame dick Atty. General John Ashcroft. Too bad we can't get a conservative administraton. I know, I know, GWB is the best we can do, therein lies the pity.
33 posted on 01/08/2005 6:45:24 PM PST by j_tull (There are only two types of ships... Submarines and targets.)
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To: Free Baptist

"the mis-behavior of public officials, left-wing lawyers and the courts."

They definitely are out to destroy the foundations of this country.

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles in the Philippines. Guess you felt a real "closeness" to the Apostle Paul (and his arrests) during all your trials.

Much more than the average citizen you could really give a first-hand warning of the changes taking place in the U.S.


34 posted on 01/08/2005 6:47:31 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

I'm a Christian who respects the rights of fellow Christians AND homosexuals alike to live as they please, worship where they please, marry who they please, and generally live as they please. When two sides seem to be as diametrically opposed as gays and fundamentalist Christians, mutual offense and dislike is unavoidable, and it is our right as Americans to choose who we wish to associate with or patronize.

Both sides should, however, be free from intimidation and harrassment by the law, the government (local, state, or federal) or organizations such as the ACLU, GLAAD, and the Christian Coalition.


I don't support the Massachussetts Supreme Court's unilateral decision (unsupported by popular referendum) and I don't support George Bush's supposed "defense of marriage" Amendment (same; no popular vote taken).
I believe in the right of choice the 11 staters were given to decide gay marriage for themselves back in November, but I disagree with the WAY they voted.

I love being a FReeper, but it's a lonely place sometimes.


35 posted on 01/08/2005 6:52:59 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: freespirited

I did the same thing, searching google news, and haven't found anything yet showing that the charges against the four were dropped.

Looks like they are still charged. Thanks for helping with the search.


36 posted on 01/08/2005 6:55:10 PM PST by Cedar
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

I think it is the right of Christians to peacefully protest homosexuality.

This is what's being threatened here (along with reading the Scriptures in public).


37 posted on 01/08/2005 6:59:40 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar; All

And so it begins.


38 posted on 01/08/2005 7:08:40 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: Cedar
On issues involving the ongoing attack on traditional values that relate to sex roles and sexuality, it is very difficult to see much difference between the Clinton and 2d Bush Administrations. Clinton put women in exposed military roles, and Bush has left them there. Clinton started annual Gay Pride celebrations in the Justice Department. After two years, Ashcroft was finally ready to stop the mocking of normal sexuality, but was overruled by the White House.

Now, this! I took a walk on the past election; so I have zero clout with the Administration. But some here who worked their hearts out to reelect George W. Bush ought to be demanding what it takes to get these lawyers fired! If this story has any truth at all in it, the drift to the Left inside the Beltway has not slowed at all. One might have expected something like this under Janet Reno, but Ashcroft was supposed to be a true Conservative.

William Flax

39 posted on 01/08/2005 7:23:17 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Cedar

RE: "I think it is the right of Christians to peacefully protest homosexuality."


I agree. It's your right to do so if you wish to.
I don't have to believe in your cause (and I don't) to respect your Constitutional rights to peaceful assembly and free speech.


40 posted on 01/08/2005 7:26:29 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Ohioan

Yes, Ashcroft is a true conservative. Just don't know how much actual support he was given by the administration while in his position.


41 posted on 01/08/2005 7:28:58 PM PST by Cedar
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

The Scriptures themselves protest homosexuality (read Romans Chapter 1, the entire chapter).

So just a simple reading of the Bible in public might be declared "hateful" if folks like these certain Philly lawyers have their way.

As for me, I want to side with God on this issue. So I'll trust what the Scriptures say about homosexuality--in which God declares it to be sin.


42 posted on 01/08/2005 7:40:54 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

RE: "As for me, I want to side with God on this issue. So I'll trust what the Scriptures say about homosexuality--in which God declares it to be sin."


Fine. Just don't go casting any stones just yet (for "All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God".)


43 posted on 01/08/2005 8:17:46 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Don't worry. I already know every day where I fall short of the glory of God.

I guess John the Baptist knew too. And the Apostles Paul, Peter, James, etc. But that didn't keep them from declaring the words of God and staying true to Him, even though it cost them their lives.

John the Baptist was arrested and beheaded because he told the king it was not lawful for him to have his brother's wife. (Mark 6:17-29)

Paul and others were arrested and put to death for preaching the words of God.

Remember, our examples are Jesus Christ and those early faithful believers.

I just pray that I will be faithful to the Lord, no matter what happens now or in the future.

I'm not wanting to throw stones at anyone. But I never want to say that which is evil is suddenly "good." (No matter how many times the world proclaims it to be so.)


44 posted on 01/08/2005 8:43:07 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

Excellent comments. Just because a person admits "I'm not perfectly pure and holy" doesn't deny that person the right to know and speak the truth. And that is not being a hypocrite. It's being loyal and faithful to the truth.


45 posted on 01/08/2005 9:28:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for those words.


46 posted on 01/08/2005 9:33:24 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

The beginning of the end.


47 posted on 01/08/2005 11:13:51 PM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping.

If you want on/off the list let me know.

48 posted on 01/08/2005 11:33:48 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: Cedar

http://www.dojpride.org/board.html

Goverment email and trademarks????

DOJ Pride is a trademark of the U.S. Department of Justice Pride. All Rights Reserved.

President: Marina Colby
Violence Against Women Office
202-514-7856
colbym@ojp.usdoj.gov

Treasurer: Aaron Schuham
Civil Division
202-514-3878
aaron.schuham@usdoj.gov

Vice President: Allison J. Nichol
Civil Rights Division
202-514-8301
Allison.Nichol@usdoj.gov

Secretary: Greg Friel
Civil Rights Division
202-514-3876
gregory.b.friel@usdoj.gov


49 posted on 01/09/2005 12:11:40 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Cedar

http://www.dojpride.org/


50 posted on 01/09/2005 12:13:26 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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