Skip to comments.Homosexual Attorneys from Justice Department Advise Philadelphia Police On Arresting Christians
Posted on 01/08/2005 4:57:49 PM PST by Cedar
UPDATE: Homosexual Attorneys from Justice Department Advise Philadelphia Police On Arresting Christians One Internet news service says not to expect an investigation because of the involvement of the Justice Department homosexual attorneys
A few days ago I wrote you about the situation in Philadelphia in which four Christians were arrested. They are charged with eight crimes, including three felonies: possession of instruments of crime (a bullhorn), ethnic intimidation (saying that homosexuality is a sin), and inciting a riot (reading from the Bible some passages relating to homosexuality) despite the fact that no riot occurred.
They face a possible 47 years in prison and fines of $90,000 each. Now we have learned more about this horrible travesty of justice.
According to WorldNetDaily, "Homosexual attorneys from the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division not only attended (the) large homosexual event but they advised police on the scene who arrested 11 Christian protesters, says a source in the agency." (Charges against some of the Christians have been dropped.)
The WorldNetDaily article went on to say the U.S. Justice Department is "not likely to take up the cause of the five criminally charged Christians who believe Philadelphia officials violated their civil rights."
Did you catch that? The Justice Department will refuse to investigate the treatment of the arrested Christians because some homosexual attorneys from the Justice Department were advising the Philadelphia police on how to arrest the Christians!!!!
WorldNetDaily, quoting their source inside the Justice Department, said the Christians were charged with "ethic intimidation (hate crimes) 'at the recommendation of some of our (Department of Justice) attorneys who were at the march.'"
In fact, Chief Inspector Tiano, who serves as liaison to the homosexual community, testified at the preliminary hearing that he met at least four times with the organizers of the Outfest event in anticipation of the protesters' activities, presumably to discuss how to handle the "Christians" when they showed up at the event. He also said he had 40 officers on site that day. He did not meet with any of the Christians!
There appears to be collusion in this travesty of justice that goes to high levels of both the Justice Department and Philadelphia. A trail date will be set soon.
Would you stand with these Christians who are defending our constitutional right of free speech? We are asking you to stand with these four Christians.
Correction: Tiano DID "meet with Christians" -- TO ARREST THEM!
The person of
Chief Inspector Uber-Fuehrer Tiano is the Heinrich Himmler for the Gay "Legal" Cabal of Philadephia.
Zeig Heil, Herr Tiano!
Islam is a religion of peace.
Queers are a movement of peace.
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Thanks for that link.
There is also a way to send an email directly to the Justice Department by going to the AFA page link posted in the heading of this thread.
(This is the link I wanted to put in but couldn't.)
We got to stick together, it will be us next!
An antichristian gay agenda? Nawwww, couldn't be! </sarc>
Thought I read that the charges were dismissed.
Thanks for your technical talent. :)
And yes, we hear the sound of approaching boots.......
(Some FReepers will think we're exaggerating, but it is sometimes little by little that the dam breaks.)
I went to your link, and someone posted there saying that this is still not over.
They posted this link for further info:
We should all email the justice dept. and our congressmen and senators and DEMAND an investigation into this. This is an extremely serious situation. When I first heard the story, I didn't know the ones prosecuting the case were homosexual and I couldn't understand how something like this could possibly happen in the US. But after more of the story came out it became clear how it could happen. Because of everyone's fears of lawsuits for "discrimination", governments are forced to hire homosexuals who will use their office for a personal agenda and not to do the job they were hired to do. People need to be fired over this incident. If not, this is only the beginning of what the homosexual agenda will be able to accomplish. I do not believe the government should condone homosexuality.
Other posts on that previous thread are saying charges WERE dropped, but the people were not acquitted.
I'll keep looking. I don't want to be posting an out-of-date thread.
If anyone else has updated info on this, it would be great if you'd post a link or something for us here.
"Thought I read that the charges were dismissed."
I'm trying to find out for sure.
ProLife/Breakpoint personal prerogative Ping!
The articles I've found on google so far seem to all say that charges were dropped just against seven people, but four people were still charged.
Here is a quote from an article by Michael J. Gaynor, written January 6, 2005:
"Last October 10, eleven Christians associated with Repent America began preaching and singing at OutFest, a homosexual street event.
The Christians, led by Repent America founder Michael Marcavage, were surrounded by the Pink Angels, a group of homosexuals who held up Styrofoam signs, blocking the group.
Police arrested only the Christians.
Last month, after viewing a videotape of the incident, Municipal Court Judge William Austin Meehan dropped charges against six other defendants, including a 72-year-old grandmother.
The eleventh, a juvenile, is awaiting separate court action.
The Philadelphia city prosecutor in the case, Charles Ehrlich, called the defendants "hateful" and referred to preaching the Bible as "fighting words."
The four adult defendants face a total of 47 years in prison if convicted of the three felonies and five misdemeanors with which they were charged.
They pled not guilty.
According to Mr. Knight: The felony charges in particular are outrageous. Were talking about expressing an opinion in a public area. This shows why hate crime laws are a threat to the freedoms of speech and assembly, and are a tool for crushing Christian evangelism. (end of quoted Gaynor material).
Another Jan. 6 article, found at the Christian Post, states basically the same thing, that four people are still facing charges. Here is the link for that article:
I'll keep searching to see if something else is more recent.
Thanks for those links, Coleus.
The situation doesn't look good at all.
Hope all of us Christians are ready to (possibly) go to jail in the (near?) future for defending the Gospel.
Let's all pray to stay true to the Lord, regardless of the circumstances.
Look for thinks in NJ to heat up!
Time to clean house at Reno Justice.
"governments are forced to hire homosexuals who will use their office for a personal agenda"
I had never considered the effect of that in the legal system until this incident. Talk about huge ramifications.....
When I click on this, it takes me to a post that says a judge dropped the charges against the four men after viewing the videotape. However, if I click on the original link that is the source of that article, the words appear to have been inserted in there--they do not appear in the original text.
I can't find any evidence that the charges against the four have been dropped. Charges against six others were dropped after the judge viewed the video, but these four still appear to be facing charges.
Charges were dropped on some of the other Christians that were arrested that day.
I went to news.google.com and searched "Michael Marcavage" and Outfest. I did not see anything indicating that the charges have been dismissed.
"the mis-behavior of public officials, left-wing lawyers and the courts."
They definitely are out to destroy the foundations of this country.
I'm sorry to hear of your troubles in the Philippines. Guess you felt a real "closeness" to the Apostle Paul (and his arrests) during all your trials.
Much more than the average citizen you could really give a first-hand warning of the changes taking place in the U.S.
I'm a Christian who respects the rights of fellow Christians AND homosexuals alike to live as they please, worship where they please, marry who they please, and generally live as they please. When two sides seem to be as diametrically opposed as gays and fundamentalist Christians, mutual offense and dislike is unavoidable, and it is our right as Americans to choose who we wish to associate with or patronize.
Both sides should, however, be free from intimidation and harrassment by the law, the government (local, state, or federal) or organizations such as the ACLU, GLAAD, and the Christian Coalition.
I don't support the Massachussetts Supreme Court's unilateral decision (unsupported by popular referendum) and I don't support George Bush's supposed "defense of marriage" Amendment (same; no popular vote taken).
I believe in the right of choice the 11 staters were given to decide gay marriage for themselves back in November, but I disagree with the WAY they voted.
I love being a FReeper, but it's a lonely place sometimes.
I did the same thing, searching google news, and haven't found anything yet showing that the charges against the four were dropped.
Looks like they are still charged. Thanks for helping with the search.
I think it is the right of Christians to peacefully protest homosexuality.
This is what's being threatened here (along with reading the Scriptures in public).
And so it begins.
Now, this! I took a walk on the past election; so I have zero clout with the Administration. But some here who worked their hearts out to reelect George W. Bush ought to be demanding what it takes to get these lawyers fired! If this story has any truth at all in it, the drift to the Left inside the Beltway has not slowed at all. One might have expected something like this under Janet Reno, but Ashcroft was supposed to be a true Conservative.
RE: "I think it is the right of Christians to peacefully protest homosexuality."
I agree. It's your right to do so if you wish to.
I don't have to believe in your cause (and I don't) to respect your Constitutional rights to peaceful assembly and free speech.
Yes, Ashcroft is a true conservative. Just don't know how much actual support he was given by the administration while in his position.
The Scriptures themselves protest homosexuality (read Romans Chapter 1, the entire chapter).
So just a simple reading of the Bible in public might be declared "hateful" if folks like these certain Philly lawyers have their way.
As for me, I want to side with God on this issue. So I'll trust what the Scriptures say about homosexuality--in which God declares it to be sin.
RE: "As for me, I want to side with God on this issue. So I'll trust what the Scriptures say about homosexuality--in which God declares it to be sin."
Fine. Just don't go casting any stones just yet (for "All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God".)
Don't worry. I already know every day where I fall short of the glory of God.
I guess John the Baptist knew too. And the Apostles Paul, Peter, James, etc. But that didn't keep them from declaring the words of God and staying true to Him, even though it cost them their lives.
John the Baptist was arrested and beheaded because he told the king it was not lawful for him to have his brother's wife. (Mark 6:17-29)
Paul and others were arrested and put to death for preaching the words of God.
Remember, our examples are Jesus Christ and those early faithful believers.
I just pray that I will be faithful to the Lord, no matter what happens now or in the future.
I'm not wanting to throw stones at anyone. But I never want to say that which is evil is suddenly "good." (No matter how many times the world proclaims it to be so.)
Excellent comments. Just because a person admits "I'm not perfectly pure and holy" doesn't deny that person the right to know and speak the truth. And that is not being a hypocrite. It's being loyal and faithful to the truth.
Thanks for those words.
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