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The Last Battle of the Vietnam War - (Lt. Rich Webster, on Kerry's defeat!)
WINTERSOLDIER.COM ^ | JANUARY 5, 2005 | LT. RICH WEBSTER

Posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:50 PM PST by CHARLITE

The last battle of the Vietnam War was fought on November 2nd, 2004, as John Kerry was defeated in his bid to become President of the United States by John O'Neill and the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth.

What was the battle about? It was a battle to recapture the honor of the Vietnam veterans who served gallantly and heroically in that war.

And who were the adversaries in this battle? It was the dishonest old media culture -- CBS, NBC, ABC, The New York Times, and the LA Times, who backed John Kerry’s version of how Vietnam veterans were the enemy of humanity in the Vietnam War. The old media was quick to endorse John Kerry's claim to have been a real Audie Murphy in Vietnam, as described by his recent biographer, Douglas Brinkley.

On the other side of this battle stood John O'Neill and his Swift Boat Veterans, the POWs, and a large contingent of informed Vietnam veterans who weren't going to lie down and let the media kick them in the face again. They weren't buying John Kerry's version of the Vietnam War and they weren't going to let America forget Kerry’s traitorous activities after the war when he became a shill for the Vietnamese communists.

Reminiscent of their actions over 30 years ago when covering the war in Vietnam, the big media portrayed O'Neill and his fellow Vietnam veterans as bunch of liars. None of the network news outlets was fit to interview O'Neill or review his book "UNFIT FOR COMMAND" even though it was on the NY Times bestseller list for a month.

Not once did a major media outlet call on Kerry to address any of the charges leveled against him by his fellow veterans. Nor did they call on him to sign his SF-l80 to release his military records, though there is good evidence that he received a less than honorable discharge for his meeting with the enemy in Paris during time of war.

The reason they didn't pursue Kerry's Vietnam record and his traitorous actions after the war was quite simply that they preferred Kerry’s version of the Vietnam War to the reality of it. The mainstream media was only interested in attacking the integrity of the Swift Vets and accusing 250 of Kerry’s fellow veterans of lying for political purposes.

Not once did they suggest that their chosen Vietnam hero, the one who threw his medals away, might be lying. They simply couldn't pursue Kerry on this. It would have been an admission that they, too, had marched in lockstep with Kerry on the Vietnam War, and in the defaming of Vietnam veterans.

The dominant media culture that claimed the so-called moral high ground in their effort to destroy America's support for the war doesn’t want to be reminded that the communists who had promised a heaven on earth in Vietnam if they won, turned Southeast Asia into a Holocaust once they came to power.

The fact that almost 4 million of our former South Vietnamese, Laotian, and Cambodian allies were murdered after the fall of Saigon, is brutal evidence that the anti-war crowd and their media cohorts were conned by the totalitarians in Hanoi. Several North Vietnamese Generals have now written in their memoirs that the antiwar movement in the streets of America was instrumental in helping them win the war.

The antiwar Left, with the help of the media, managed not only to help the North Vietnamese win the war, but shifted the focus of rage against the war onto the Vietnam veterans. Our troops, America’s finest who had gone halfway around the world to fight for a democracy against the totalitarian forces of Communism, were treated with unjust contempt when they returned home.

That's one reason the old media couldn't question Kerry about his actions in support of the enemy in Vietnam -- they had done the same dishonest thing over 30 years ago. It fit their purpose to portray the Vietnam veterans as losers. Never mind that the other side had a policy of assassination and torture, murdering more than 61,000 South Vietnamese public officials during the war, and that they created concentration camps and committed genocide after "peace" was declared.

That’s why there is an unbridgeable gap between those who went and those who consciously avoided the war. The only Vietnam Veteran the old media can endorse is a veteran like Kerry who betrayed his comrades with phony charges of war crimes, who refused to allow the Vietnam Human Rights Bill to be called to the Senate floor, who abandoned the POWs in his chairmanship of the POW Senate Hearings, who lied about being in Cambodia to dramatize his testimony against aid to the Contras in Nicaragua, and filled staff positions with the likes of Gareth Porter, a scholar who sang the praises of the Khmer Rouge and denied the Cambodian holocaust...

The media of the 60's and the early 70's had a powerful effect on how the Vietnam War was perceived by the public, as there was no alternative media as there is today. As the war progressed, they chose to smear Vietnam vets as degenerates and losers -- an image that found its way into our movies and culture.

Herman Melville knew something about human nature when he wrote, when a person who has power over you finds that you are the better man, he will do everything in his power to belittle and destroy you. This is at the heart of the media's portrayal of the Vietnam Veteran.

The old media carries a guilt complex over the Vietnam War, and it's too painful for them to reexamine their actions. Doing so might show that they were wrong and were complicit in aiding an enemy in perpetrating a Holocaust in Southeast Asia. It might mean an admitting that the better men were those who went off to fight the war, rather than the "let's-give-peace-a-chance" agitators who marched under the Viet Cong flag in the streets of America.

I attended a conference in Boston this July on "The Myths of the Vietnam War" which examined the shallowness and the one-sidedness of the news coverage of that war. On the same Thursday night that Kerry made his grand entrance at the Democratic Convention, I joined 200 anti-Kerry Vietnam veterans, former American and South Vietnamese POWs, and surviving Vietnamese Boat People, in a march of protest to the front of the Convention Hall.

Not one major news outlet cared to interview us, and there were thousands of media people there. We marched to Kerry's condo on the Hill, and had a ceremonial reenactment of his throwing his medals back. POW Mike Benge and another South Vietnamese POW who had spent 20 years in a prison camp in North Vietnam marched at my sides. John Kerry's actions had betrayed everyone involved in our protest. We chanted, "Good men died while John Kerry lied!"

Old-fashioned though it may be the notion still resonates with a large segment of Americans that in time of war, a military officer shouldn't betray his comrades by meeting with officials of the enemy and attempting to force his own government to yield to their demands. John Kerry did exactly that when he met Madame Binh and the North Vietnamese in Paris in 1970 and l97l.

That's why the Swiftees helped to defeat John Kerry with their simple, powerful message that he was unfit for command. The Swift Vet / POW ads galvanized the 25 million Veterans in America, and were enough to tilt the election in George Bush's favor.

Some suggest that Kerry should have done more to rebut the Swift Vet ads, but how could he? In the book, "Unfit for Command," the Swift Vets had nailed Kerry to the wall. He had no rebuttal, except to threaten to sue the publishers of the book, and later to sue the movie theaters that dared to show "Stolen Honor." And in this, too, the old media covered for him.

In September, I attended a rally on Capitol Hill of some 7,000 Vietnam veterans against John Kerry that was organized by former Navy SEAL Larry Bailey. Major news outlets were on hand for the event, but most chose to ignore the protest. The Washington Times ran a short article, and USA Today ran a photo of the lone opposition Vietnam veteran, Bobby Mueller, who showed up to oppose our rally. One guy against 7,000, and that was the picture a national newspaper chose to describe the event, without any commentary, or even any mention of why we were there.

I have no doubt that if 7,000 Vietnam veterans had assembled in front of the White House to support John Kerry, all three major networks would have featured the event on their nightly news shows, and the Washington Post would have run a large feature on it.

John O'Neill was a speaker at the rally, along with Stolen Valor author B. G. Burkett. Another speaker, Vietnam Nurse Captain Donna Rowe told the story of how a group of US infantry soldiers had brought in a wounded Vietnamese baby girl with shrapnel in her chest. The child's entire village had been murdered by the Viet Cong for being too friendly to the American soldiers.

"We saved that baby’s life," she said. "We did not kill babies over there like John Kerry said. We went out of our way to save them."

The old media disrespected the Vietnam veterans during the 2004 campaign just as they had done over three decades ago, but this time the vets fought back, taking their battle to the Internet, talk radio, and the cable news networks. It was a wonderful example of diversity of opinion and freedom of speech, but hardly the kind of speech and opinion the old media prefers. They want their own version of the history of the Vietnam War, and ignore or attack anyone who disagrees with it.

The Vietnam veterans who opposed Kerry were fighting for their honor, stolen from them long ago by the media and the antiwar movement. John Kerry had been front and center in dishonoring those he served with in the Vietnam War.

Senator Zell Miller recognizes the valor of America's veterans, "Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for freedom of liberty of total strangers than the American soldier." Don't those words describe the Vietnam veterans?

Had John Kerry been capable of uttering such noble words, and if he could have been honest about his fellow Vietnam veterans, he would have had their support, and in all probability would have been elected President of the United States. Instead, by once again defiling the honor of Vietnam veterans with slanderous lies, Kerry and his media supporters lost the last battle of the Vietnam War.

Rich Webster
Lt. with the Regional Forces / Popular Forces, Vietnam 1968 - 1969


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1 posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:52 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

The leaders of the old media are easily bribed. Their followers are easily led. Or so it is said.


2 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:19 PM PST by ReadyNow
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To: CHARLITE

You go Vietnam vets!!!..you have finally won the real battle! Kerry is toast.


3 posted on 01/08/2005 7:53:40 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


4 posted on 01/08/2005 8:01:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: All
This is the rationale and basis of Kerry's defeat:
The Making of the Boston Manifesto

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=Manifesto1

A Statement by a Group of Vietnam Veterans: A 65,000 word Veterans essay about Kerry.

http://www.buttondepress.com/BostonManifesto/
A Statement by a Group of Vietnam Veterans

Explaining their Outrage Over the Nomination of Senator John F. Kerry to be President of the United States
Prepared by the Vietnam Veterans to Correct the Myths October 18, 2004 © 2004 by VVCM
This document may be reproduced in full or in part and distributed on a not-for-profit basis without further permission so long as credit is given to the original source. You may post any of the files listed below on your website under the same conditions. Non-profit veterans organizations wishing to reproduce and sell copies for the purpose of raising funds should request permission from Steve Sherman , PO Box 926032, Houston, TX 77292-6032.
Phone: 713-683-9076 Email: Sherman1@flash.net

CLICK BELOW FOR .PDF Files:
(Formatted for 5.5"x 8.5" but may be printed/scaled to fit letter-sized page)
Boston Manifesto (Full Text)
Executive Summary
Images Section
Boston Manifesto (Text Body)
Important Links:
Admiral/Senator Jeremiah Denton on the Vietnam War (Video)

Epilogue to Unfit for Command (Free)
Stolen Honor (Video Excerpts and Order Form)

Note

For four days beginning on July 26, 2004, a group of Vietnam veterans, scholars, and experts—including recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor, several former Special Forces officers and enlisted men, and veterans who have taught about the war at the high school, college, and graduate school levels —gathered at a small college in Boston to examine the “Myths of the Vietnam War.”*

Their hope was to take advantage of the renewed interest in the war resulting from the expected nomination of Senator John F. Kerry as the Democratic Party candidate for President of the United States to promote a national dialogue about Vietnam, its myths, and legitimate lessons. After the conference formally adjourned, several of the participants expressed a strong sense of betrayal over the conduct of John Kerry after his return to the United States following brief service in Vietnam and voiced outrage over his nomination. Soon others joined the conversation, and a consensus was reached to set forth some of the reasons for this widespread outrage.

The statement that follows is the result of that effort. It is a consensus effort, and not every veteran who was in the room necessarily agrees with every point made. We do agree that the election of John Forbes Kerry as President of the United States would be yet another betrayal of those who served honorably in Vietnam and remain proud of that service, which public opinion polls tell us includes more than 90 percent of all Vietnam veterans.

For the purpose of preparing and releasing this document we have informally organized ourselves as the “Vietnam Veterans to Correct the Myths” (VVCM), an unincorporated voluntary association. No funds have been raised or expended in the name of VVCM, which does not endorse any specific candidate for public office All views expressed are those of the individuals involved.

We release this Manifesto on the Internet to be considered on its own merits. Others may distribute it, endorse it, ignore it, or attempt to refute it at their pleasure. Should Mr. Kerry wish to debate our facts or conclusions, we will be most happy to accommodate him.

For further information, contact: Stephen Sherman,
Vietnam Veterans to Correct the Myths
PO Box 926032, Houston, TX 77292-6032
Phone: 713-683-9076

Email: Sherman1@flash.net

* For the proceedings of this conference, see http://www.Viet-Myths.net

6 posted on 01/08/2005 8:09:36 PM PST by CHARLITE ((very-angry-and-not-going-to-take-it-anymore))
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...

Hanoi John ping...


7 posted on 01/08/2005 8:14:27 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: CHARLITE
What was the battle about? It was a battle to recapture the honor of the Vietnam veterans who served gallantly and heroically in that war.

With all due respect to the Lt., you can't recapture the honor you've never lost.

That last battle was to insure a dis-honorable Viet vet did not serve in the White house.
8 posted on 01/08/2005 8:15:21 PM PST by stylin19a (Marines - end of discussion)
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To: CHARLITE
Here's a direct link to Rich Webster's excellent essay.
9 posted on 01/08/2005 8:16:38 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

B U M P

Thanx for the ping


10 posted on 01/08/2005 8:19:04 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: ReadyNow

Impeach Kerry. He is unqualified to even be there. It is a discrace that the Liberal media faked charges against President Bush while trumpting Kerrys Lies.


11 posted on 01/08/2005 8:19:40 PM PST by Little_shoe (2.0 and Go....)
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To: CHARLITE; Interesting Times; armyman; Arrowhead1952; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; ...

Hanoi Kerry is overseas this week
thrashing President Bush
and meeting with the enemy.

This battle IS NOT OVER!!!!

Kerry Trashes Bush in Baghdad Jan 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315333/posts

Kerry Meets With Syrian President Jan 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1316737/posts

Don't be like the Silent Majority in the 60's and 70's
Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

Kerry was an illegal candidate
and is an illegal US Senator per
US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1314858/posts

Contact the GOP controlled US Senate
AND
The MAIN STREAM RIGHT WING MEDIA

Distribute these url's!

EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

Full details on these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com


12 posted on 01/08/2005 8:20:38 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (US Senate AND Main Stream Right Wing Media READ US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3)
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To: Earthdweller

May I add I love you Vietnam vets? (You said don't get mushy on me) I say to heck with it..give me a hug!!! Victory is sweet.


13 posted on 01/08/2005 8:20:49 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


14 posted on 01/08/2005 8:22:44 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Interesting Times

bump


15 posted on 01/08/2005 8:23:14 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: CHARLITE
I'm dropping in for this one......


16 posted on 01/08/2005 8:24:41 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: CHARLITE

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...And the 1st Battle of the Vietnam War =

(Movie Website)
http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com

(Book Website)
http://www.lzxray.com

(Photos)
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set2.htm
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set3.htm

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17 posted on 01/08/2005 8:25:03 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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18 posted on 01/08/2005 8:25:04 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

John Kerry is an assclown

Even the lib lovers hate him now

Let him commit scary kerry

Keep that finger pointed Tonk..its working ;^)


19 posted on 01/08/2005 8:25:08 PM PST by mylife
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To: CHARLITE

Not the last battle. A crucial one to be sure, but not the last. That one will be when Vietnam throws off its shackles and breathes free air once again, and it will be unanimously derided by the same media whose members betrayed it in the 70's. I hope Cronkite lives to see it because I'd dearly love to rub his nose in it.


20 posted on 01/08/2005 8:26:45 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: CHARLITE

"...I attended a conference in Boston this July on "The Myths of the Vietnam War" which examined the shallowness and the one-sidedness of the news coverage of that war. On the same Thursday night that Kerry made his grand entrance at the Democratic Convention, I joined 200 anti-Kerry Vietnam veterans, former American and South Vietnamese POWs, and surviving Vietnamese Boat People, in a march of protest to the front of the Convention Hall.

Not one major news outlet cared to interview us, and there were thousands of media people there. We marched to Kerry's condo on the Hill, and had a ceremonial reenactment of his throwing his medals back. POW Mike Benge and another South Vietnamese POW who had spent 20 years in a prison camp in North Vietnam marched at my sides. John Kerry's actions had betrayed everyone involved in our protest. We chanted, "Good men died while John Kerry lied!"...

But ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
made sure you knew about the Bush phony National Guard documents!


21 posted on 01/08/2005 8:27:32 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (US Senate AND Main Stream Right Wing Media READ US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3)
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To: Interesting Times; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...




WHITE FLAG EXPLAINS HANOI JOHN'S TRIP TO SYRIA

22 posted on 01/08/2005 8:28:32 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping.

Yet something else to be grateful for: Ours was an unKerry Christams.


23 posted on 01/08/2005 8:28:47 PM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: Samwise
Yet something else to be grateful for: Ours was an unKerry Christams.

Good idea; needs a little polish.

How about "A Nary Kerry Christmas."

24 posted on 01/08/2005 8:33:06 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: All
Kerry hasn't changed in all these years.








Embracing our enemies at the drop of a hat. Will someone please prosecute this man??
25 posted on 01/08/2005 8:33:59 PM PST by filly (Anti-americanism: an irrational hatred of America.)
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To: Interesting Times
A Nary Kerry Christmas

and you even typed "Christmas" correctly. :^)

26 posted on 01/08/2005 8:35:07 PM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: CHARLITE

Bravo! Great post, great article. Proud contributor to the SwiftVets. I gave them 150% of what I gave to the Bush-Cheney campaign.


27 posted on 01/08/2005 8:37:59 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Billthedrill

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...With our Vietnam War Honor that the lying CRONKITE - RATHER TV Reporting team helped steal from us Vietnam Vets...

...long time LIBERAL Los Angeles Times Media Critic DAVID SHAW still tells us that...


RATHER's work 'Shoddy, Slipshod' not LIBERAL..?

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts

.


28 posted on 01/08/2005 8:39:13 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: CHARLITE
" It was a battle to recapture the honor of the Vietnam veterans "

They never lost their honor among the American people, just the Old Media and extreme left whackos. There just wasn't any countervailing media giving favorable publicity to returning veterans.

But all across the country they were being elected to city councils, statehouses and school boards. Employers were wanting the maturity and self discipline of veterans.

They were heroes to their friends and families if not to Hollywood.

29 posted on 01/08/2005 8:41:47 PM PST by bayourod (The states and cities with large immigrant labor pools are the prosperous ones.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

CRONKITE - RATHER - KERRY

STILL LIE!

While over 58,000 Brothers and Sisters
cry out for justice, once and for all.


30 posted on 01/08/2005 8:41:51 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (US Senate AND Main Stream Right Wing Media READ US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3)
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To: CHARLITE

BTTT


31 posted on 01/08/2005 8:42:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: PhilDragoo

bttt


32 posted on 01/08/2005 8:46:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 01/08/2005 8:47:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: bayourod
They never lost their honor among the American people, just the Old Media ... ----

Yes..our heros. Not to the biased media but in our hearts were it counts.

34 posted on 01/08/2005 8:48:13 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: bayourod

"They never lost their honor among the American people, just the Old Media and extreme left whackos."

You should have been in my shoes in Sept 69 in Chicago

I had just got out of the Navy.

I was denied admission to Northwestern University and
learned NOT to even mention that I was a Viet Nam Vet
on job interviews.

And the left were empowered more when
Hanoi Kerry "testified" in April 71

Odd I was there when Hanoi Kerry was.

He STILL serves illegally as a US Senator.

Wonder if I could be a US Senator also?



35 posted on 01/08/2005 8:49:04 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (US Senate AND Main Stream Right Wing Media READ US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Got my vote


36 posted on 01/08/2005 8:52:29 PM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Smartass

EXCELLENT PHOTO!!!!

May I help it be dropped all about?


37 posted on 01/08/2005 9:01:45 PM PST by bitt
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Wonder if I could be a US Senator also?
--
You go for it. Maybe the freepers will be behind you too. Do you have enough bull for the job? Tee Hee.


38 posted on 01/08/2005 9:05:52 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: filly; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Smartass; Prime Choice; Grampa Dave
KERRY TO ASSAD: "IGNORE BUSH--
I'M THE REAL PRESIDENT"

"We will continue to make it clear to both Syria and Iran that ... meddling
in the internal affairs of Iraq is not in their interests," Bush told reporters.

39 posted on 01/08/2005 9:09:05 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; bear11; risk; ModernDayHeroes.com; reformjoy; conservogirl; kristinn; ...

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Once and for all...

the 58,000 Americans who gave all they had for the Freedom of Others...

the many 1,000's more Free South Vietnamese Soldiers who did the same...

the 1.5 Million poor S.E. Asian Souls who lost their lives after the Fall of Saigon...

the many 1,000's of suddenly enslaved South Vietnamese who were put in tortorous Concentration Camps for up to 13 years after the Fall of Saigon...

the many more who lost their lives on the high seas fleeing communist tyrany after the Fall of Saigon...

and...

the many survivors of all this who made it here to a Free America and registered by the 1,000's in Little Saigon last year to vote against their mutual Enemy Within JOHN KERRY...

...ALL CRY OUT now FOR THE JUSTICE they all so richly deserve.




Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran - Little Saigon Republican Voter Registration Headquarters - 2004
http://www.VanTran68.com

Veteran - Battle of IA DRANG - 1965
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

'Modern Day Heroes: In Defense of America' - Contributing Author
http://www.ModernDayHeroes.com/aloha

Hit: 'Resource Center'
Hit: 'Aloha Ronnie'

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40 posted on 01/08/2005 9:12:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: CHARLITE
The Stone-age Press is a Mouthpiece for the DNC! Nothing more than $$Billions of free advertising. They are now irrelevant!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

41 posted on 01/08/2005 9:12:36 PM PST by bray (The First of 4 More Years!)
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To: Smartass

Funny.


42 posted on 01/08/2005 9:13:28 PM PST by Libertina (Here comes 2005 - get your pajamas ready!)
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To: PhilDragoo
He's up to his old Vietnam tricks Phil!
Who, other then in the name Satan sent him to Syria?

43 posted on 01/08/2005 9:14:51 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: CHARLITE

Okay, now that the American people have slammed the door on the Viet Nam War, it's time to slam the door on the '60's Hippy-Tantrum.


44 posted on 01/08/2005 9:15:58 PM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George W. Bush!)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. This is a fine article, well written. The election was a major defeat of the enemy media, as you well know and I thank you for your part in it. Our honor has been restored in the minds of many people.


45 posted on 01/08/2005 9:25:31 PM PST by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: CHARLITE

I can't speak for others, but it still galls and scares me that over 48% of the people of this country STILL voted for that traitorous asshole JEffinK!


46 posted on 01/08/2005 9:25:58 PM PST by bowzer313
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To: CHARLITE

I can't speak for others, but it still galls and scares me that over 48% of the people of this country STILL voted for that traitorous asshole JEffinK!


47 posted on 01/08/2005 9:25:59 PM PST by bowzer313
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To: zot

Hey, any time.


48 posted on 01/08/2005 9:28:23 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: CHARLITE

<< The Last Battle of the Vietnam War >>

Do not bet on it.

Like every major Vietnam battle fought by Americans and our allies in that conflict, this latest was rewarded with a decisive victory, it is true -- but Kerry has once again escaped prosecution for his treasons and with his freedom and his life -- and is off and running toward 2008.

And thus will have to soon once again be traced and faced and erased from contention.

And as for you. Lieutenant Rich Webster?

May God for ever bless you and all of those you love.

Every Real American, I am sure, joins me in saluting you!


49 posted on 01/08/2005 9:30:16 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: CHARLITE

I have always said the soldiers won the battles of Vietnam and the media lost the war as Dan Rather was so proud to mention shortly after the Tet Offensive in 1968. The SwiftVets to me were men (strike that) the hero’s who came foreword to set truth free from the oppression of the anti-American MSM who I have know doubt that if it wasn't for the 2004 election and everything that was inspired by it like the SwiftVets would have done everything in their power to portray our soldier today as the same baby killers committing an illegal act against sovereign nations we had know business attacking. Their headlines although still leaning heavily in this direction due to the liberal arrogance of the MSM was left out of kilter because of the attack of September 11 which inspired a popular support of the military to avenge and protect us from a now front page aggressor who had said and shown their will to destroy us. John Kerry is not a war hero but a mere opportunist who had no intention of fighting on the front lines of Vietnam. His only intentions were to build a resume (film footage included) for a run at the office of president of the United States he so much despised. This to me is no different that if it was Osama’s plan himself. The MSM response to the SwiftVets was to spit in their faces after no longer able to deny their existence and possible influence on the 2004 elections. The American public picked up on their heroic efforts to bring the truth to light and embraced them with the love of a mother holding her son after a violent tour of duty in a far away land she was never sure he would return from alive. I have so much respect for these men and the honor they have restored to our veterans of Vietnam or any other war fought in the name of U.S freedom and the liberties we take for granted more often than we should. One day we will see John Kerry’s SF180 and the facts that will tell a story of a man who betrayed his country and found himself confronted with a less than honorable discharge he claims every veteran who didn’t support him deserved. Many innocents died because of the likes of John Kerry and the MSM by the domino effect of their actions and lies. These men in Vietnam had served or died in vain to the euphoria of the MSM until the SwiftVets came like knights on white horses screaming we will not be silent anymore because we speak for all those who had not been heard, for all those who were spit on returning from battle by the faction in this country that hate people like us and what we stand for. The SwiftVets were to kind in writing a book titled "Unfit for Command" it should have been titled “Unfit to be an American”. I also thank Fox News and papers like the N.Y. Post for letting their story be heard and forcing the MSM and John Kerry to respond. I also thank Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and all the other conservative broadcasters along with the religious congregations who teach the value of life and its meaning for ushering in a new dawn in America. The fall of the MSM is on the rise and the rise of liberal ideas that have torn into the fabric of this society is in decline. It is okay, speak your mind and don’t let anyone put their foot on your throat and call you a bigot or racist or homophobe to shut you up, we all have the right to speak our minds without being oppressed. I have never been ashamed to fly the American flag in my front yard and I dare any liberal to take it down.


50 posted on 01/08/2005 9:31:44 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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