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Enough is enough, Mexico
Houston Comical ^ | 1/09/2005 | U.S. REP. J.D. HAYWORTH

Posted on 01/09/2005 5:07:36 AM PST by The_Victor

Mexico's Foreign Ministry has produced and distributed a Guide for the Mexican Migrant, which is essentially a "how to" manual for illegal entry into the United States.

Unfortunately, it goes even further by providing recommendations for illegal aliens in evading detection of federal authorities once in the United States. ("Avoid attracting attention," etc.) Not once does the guide mention how a Mexican migrant can come to the U.S. legally!

While many Americans were shocked to find out that the Mexican government is a witting accomplice in breaking our laws, the assault on our sovereignty by Mexico has been going on for years.

Indeed, the problem begins with Mexican President Vicente Fox, who openly encourages more Mexicans to head north, not only breaking our immigration laws but also trampling the spirit of citizenship and assimilation those laws were designed to foster.

President Fox sugarcoats his countrymen's illegal invasion of the United States by deliberately mislabeling it a "migration" and wants us to reward lawbreakers with amnesty and dual citizenship.

He even refuses to call undocumented Mexicans "illegals," telling talk-show host Sean Hannity in March 2002: "They are not illegals. They are not illegals. They are people that come there to work, to look for a better opportunity."

And the United States is supposed to be the arrogant one in the relationship?

But that's not all. The Mexican government has a department to promote the well-being of Mexican illegals, it routinely sues to protect the rights of illegals in U.S. courts and has so many of its citizens in the United States that it is making arrangements for them to vote in the coming Mexican elections from here.

Mexico acts as an accomplice in illegal immigration because its economy is hooked on the $14.5 billion in annual remittances from Mexicans working in the United States.

That's more than Mexico earns from tourism or foreign investment and, perhaps, economically more important than its huge state-owned oil industry. Because Mexico won't take the steps necessary to open up its statist economy, it looks to the United States to soak up excess labor. And we have.

The 1986 amnesty conferred green cards on 2.8 million illegal aliens — about 2.5 million of them Mexican. Every year about 200,000 Mexicans are allowed into America legally, three times more than we take from any other country. It is now estimated that there are at least 5 million Mexicans living here illegally.

America has been a tolerant and generous neighbor in this regard. But enough is enough.

The Mexican government has expressed support for an accountable guest-worker program along the lines of that proposed by President Bush. However, such a program is simply not possible as long as the illegal invasion of America across our southern border continues with the active support of the Mexican government.

If Mexico wants to work constructively for immigration reform in general and a guest-worker system in particular, it needs to start becoming a partner in securing our border instead of an accomplice in overrunning it.

Ending the distribution of the guide would be a good place to start.

Hayworth, R-Ariz., is a member of the House Ways and Means Committee.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; conspirators; jdhayworth; vicentefox
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Yes I saw the article. Thanks. A sick "leadership!"


61 posted on 01/09/2005 5:37:48 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
You're singing to the choir!


62 posted on 01/09/2005 5:48:11 PM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: pageonetoo

They should be only allowed into the country if they are sponsored for one of those "jobs that Americans won't do", by an employer assuming responsibilty for them while "in country"........

Problem is the American already knows you cannot live on the wage they are paying the Mexican, so they won't take it because it costs more to work with taxes, uniforms, transportaion etc that it's worth. The Mexican is naive, so takes the job and learn the hard truth down the line.

FIX MEXICO'S ECONOMY. IT IS THE ONLY ANSWER. THEN OUR EMPLOYERS WILL HAVE TO PAY A JUST WAGE.


63 posted on 01/09/2005 6:14:32 PM PST by amihow
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To: pageonetoo
Ah, Chief Moose, I remember him...

Here in Mexifornia some towns even build "laborer halls" to house the creeps while they're taking American jobs.

We're being sold out to corrupt Mexico. The politicians are deaf.

64 posted on 01/09/2005 6:59:26 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: chatham

>Bush could stop the whole mess in a heartbeat. All he needs to do is to put America First.<

ABSOLUTELY! Either Bush is not calling the shots on this one, or he is not the man we thought he was.


65 posted on 01/09/2005 7:03:35 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge.!)
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To: Ben Ficklin
That sounds like something that Hillary or Ted woud say.

When asking for directions to the show, I probably sound a bit like them, too - also when ordering in a restaurant.

What I wrote was: "when you allow businesses to find the least wage, some will. And that can be harmful to the greater society." Free enterprise is silent on many questions. A healthy society functions by free trade - plus. There's always that bit extra. Now, I'm necessarily recommended tariffs, or even artificial props and subsidies, as are common from the Fed to various industries and sectors. I'm just saying that the benefit of freedom is that people benefit, not that people are miserable, worrying about their jobs, their homes, or those of their neighbors. That's not freedom. That's freedom for citizens of a free country - not for those from another, and increasingly, hostile nation. So free enterprise - plus. Keep it free, and not destructive. Make free enterprise lead to and guarantee - freedom. How could you disagree with that?

66 posted on 01/09/2005 8:39:54 PM PST by sevry
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To: amihow
jobs that Americans won't do

If there is such a thing, maybe the nation can finally handle exposing that mess. What would be such a job? Working the fields and living in a shack or a hole in the ground? In the past, when people discovered child labor and sweat shops, laws were passed. Well? Why should now be any different? Or would there actually be people here that would defend sweat shops, even in this country, as surely such exist?

67 posted on 01/09/2005 9:06:39 PM PST by sevry
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To: amihow
Problem is the American already knows you cannot live on the wage they are paying the Mexican, so they won't take it because it costs more to work with taxes, uniforms, transportaion etc that it's worth.

You are Not Correct in your ASSUMPTION. Most hispanics work hard, and most are paid at a level much higher than the minimum wage, as set by gum't. The biggest reason they are hired is because they WORK HARD for the money, something we don't see as much these days, with our domestic help! I would hire a legal 'mexican", in a heartbeat, and have!!! They show up, and give you a result, EVERY TIME!

Manual labor means HARD WORK, and we have way too many Nintendo junkies here in the US of A!

Immigration is not bad, ILLEGAL INVASION is...exactly that!

68 posted on 01/10/2005 4:16:42 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: janetgreen
We're being sold out to corrupt Mexico by corrupt, and/or, naive US politicians...
69 posted on 01/10/2005 4:20:01 AM PST by pageonetoo (I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
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To: Vaduz

In the 1980's I owned and ran a small construction Co. in Connecticut.
One of the rules (LAWS) put out by the Federal Govt. was that as an employer we were obligated to check the citizenship of all employees.
Mine was a union shop and most of the workers were in the union for 20 or 30 years. However we had to check their citizenship or face a $10,000 fine for the first offense.
Believe it or nor there were a few guys who didn't have proper citizenship.

All George Bush has to do is enforce the same law and impose the same stiff penalty and then check the employers.

Close down their businesses on second offense.
This whole thing is the fault of the current administration and I voted for him.


70 posted on 01/10/2005 5:47:28 AM PST by chatham
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To: Paperdoll

Bush ids the man responsible for this but I think he sees this as his quest to make up for all the problems of the past for the mexican poor.

Great but he should not try to correct the wrongs of the past, OVERNIGHT.

see my thread # 70 above.


71 posted on 01/10/2005 5:53:23 AM PST by chatham
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To: marty60
Unless the PEOPLE start treating businesses and people that hire illegals as the criminals they are, nothing will be done.

Exactly right!As a landscape business owner,I get outbid on many projects simply because the CONSUMER wants the lowest price.Business' that hire illegals always have the lowest price due to less overhead expenses.I'm starting to think "screw ethics",and just go hire some illegal laborers myself.(Not really,but one does get quite angry over time.)

72 posted on 01/10/2005 6:01:57 AM PST by quack
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To: The_Victor
I think we should just make Mexico part of the U.S. and get it over with. That way, we get their oil, and this whole border mess goes away.

::::sarcasm off::::

73 posted on 01/10/2005 6:04:20 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: amihow
"FIX MEXICO'S ECONOMY"

I doubt that Vincente Fox is listening. It's easier for him to ship most of the people out of his country to the U.S.

74 posted on 01/10/2005 6:06:47 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: moehoward

Annex Mexico, no one wants to live there anyway.


75 posted on 01/10/2005 6:10:03 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Why do Red States have Blue Senators?)
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To: The_Victor
The Mexican government has a department to promote the well-being of Mexican illegals, it routinely sues to protect the rights of illegals in U.S. courts

Ironic, when you consider the dispicable way Mexico treats its illegal immigrants from Guatemala.

76 posted on 01/10/2005 6:10:20 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: The_Victor

must read later


77 posted on 01/10/2005 6:10:48 AM PST by meema
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To: chatham

>Great but he should not try to correct the wrongs of the past, OVERNIGHT<

It is not his job to correct Mexican wrongs of the past.
His job is to see that American wrongs of the past are corrected. Like NAFTA and GAT and the WTO that the Clintonistas brought into being which has taken manufacturing and jobs away from America.

I keep saying that erasing borders leads to Regional Government, which, in turn, leads to One World Government.
Reagan said it best - "A country without borders is no longer a country".

Naivety has no part in this. It is the deliberate dismantling of America. It may be too late to reverse the trend if people don't gather the courage to face the problem with the determination to do something about it, or lose our sovereignty forever.


78 posted on 01/10/2005 6:16:00 AM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge.!)
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To: sevry
Actually, I was referring to recent public ststements by Hillary that contained the same "wider good" phrasology as your post. Her statements were noted in the media and widely discussed at FR.

As for the thrust of your statements, there are reams and reams of labor laws that highly impact this country. The best example of this is population shift/internal migration underway in this country due to closed shop-right to work laws

Some people accept regulatory law. Those that that subscribe to a federalist political philosopy and/or those that subscribe to a market economic philosophy tend to see regulatory law as regulatory takings.

For the sake of discussion, lets say that we all accept regulatory labor laws. Lets also stay on topic of foreign workers. Lets also try to look at, for the sake of simplicity, just one segment of foreign labor, the ag workers.

We have had ag worker visas for 50 plus years. No doubt, in the beginning, the employers and the employees were well served. But time changes things. In those 50 years the United Farm Workers union was created and empowered, the Civil Rights orgs rose to power. Immigration lawyers prolifrated. These groups are now served and empowered by the laws. They are politically powerful and have their political patrons who are powerful.

This DOL document is a brief guide to ag visas which will give you some info. Note that this document points you to futher details, other jurisdictions, and ultimately, the US Code.

If work visas are beneficial, why do we have an inadequate number of legal ag workers and so many illegal workers? Simple, the union has been constricting the creation of more visas. The lawyers and the bleeding hearts are also involved. Its what benefits them, not the employers and the employees. Its been going on for 30 years. As the demand for for more legal ag workers has increased and the supply has been constricted, the illegals have stepped in to fill the void.

Were you to analyse the AgJobs bill you will readily see why the left has endorsed it. By consenting to a increase in the number of ag visas, they get mucho mucho, most of which is detrimental to conservatives.

What applies to ag visas applies to all classifications of work visas as well as any classifications created in the future.

Unfortunately, the Republicans are hopelessly split on immigration reform and the dems will be able to dictate on any bill that gets out of Congress.

79 posted on 01/10/2005 6:44:27 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Paperdoll
It may be too late to reverse the trend if people don't gather the courage to face the problem with the determination to do something about it, or lose our sovereignty forever.

I still believe this whole thing is about thwarting a potential Communist revolution in Mexico. The Administration, egged on by Vicente Fox, has been led to believe that unless Mexico has the safety valve of illegal immigration, a violent revolution will sweep a Hugo Chavez-like government into power and potentially give the Chinese military access to our southern border. With our forces tied up in the Middle East, there would be no effective way of intervening in such a revolution (and there might not anyway), so the Administration is hoping America can absorb and assimilate the illegals fast enough to leaven out the violent revolutionary elements and provide a supply of "born-again capitalists" who can eventually spread the gospel of free markets back home and head off the Marxist threat.

It's a high risk strategy that the Administration apparently feels they have no choice but to attempt.

80 posted on 01/10/2005 7:17:06 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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