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U.S. mulls 'death squads' in Iraq
THE NEW YORK POST ^ | January 9, 2004 | ZACH HABERMAN

Posted on 01/09/2005 7:54:06 AM PST by PopGonzalez

"A report says government officials are reviewing a page from their old playbook to help deal with Iraqi guerrillas: sending special forces to train "death squads" to help install order."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deathsquads; fallujah; iraq; salvador; waronterror
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To: PopGonzalez

Imagine that. Killing the enemy attackers. What will they think of next........


21 posted on 01/09/2005 8:35:57 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: DTogo

Or, you could quit trying to hijack this thread, and post that on the half-million other threads here devoted to that subject.....


22 posted on 01/09/2005 8:36:04 AM PST by The Coopster
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To: squirt
SOG

Slab on Grade?

23 posted on 01/09/2005 8:38:18 AM PST by Go Gordon (If at first you don't succeed...skydiving is not for you.)
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To: lt.america
The terrorists we are fighting in Iraq now only understand one thing; the fist. If you can't strike them quickly, adeptly, and violently they will continue with their actions. However, if you show them that they will be ruthlessly hunted down, that will give them pause, and when the people that harbor them see that their actions will be met with the same type of violence parceled out to the terrorists, they will stop (worked like a charm in Columbia

Has everyone forgotten Soviet experiences in Afghanistan and Russian experiences in Chechnya? (Not to mention that this strategy failed for the Nazis in occupied areas as well).

24 posted on 01/09/2005 8:38:19 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: winner3000
I was wondering what took us so long. The "insurgents" have no rights under the Geneva convention as they do not follow the rules of war. Neither should we.

No kidding! I've believed we need to fight this war with ruthlessness. Our enemy will do no less. We will never win it trying to be noble and chivalrous.

Who cares what the "enlightened" Europeans and American Left thinks.

25 posted on 01/09/2005 8:39:31 AM PST by Drew68
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To: lt.america
hen the people that harbor them see that their actions will be met with the same type of violence parceled out to the terrorists, they will stop (worked like a charm in Columbia).

Um, yeah. Colombia's the model we want to follow.

26 posted on 01/09/2005 8:40:39 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

You must cut this cancer out. These are not "good" Iraqis we are fighting. These are mainly former Bathists and foreign terrorists. You are not going to win any "hearts and minds" with this group.

With that said, what would your solution be?


27 posted on 01/09/2005 8:42:20 AM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: shrinkermd

Like shotgun squads in the convenience store, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.


28 posted on 01/09/2005 8:42:38 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: PopGonzalez

Then by all means let the Israelies train them!


29 posted on 01/09/2005 8:43:32 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Capt. Tom
And the death toll was staggering - more than 70,000 political killings in El Salvador, more than 100,000 in Guatemala, 30,000 killed in the contra war in Nicaragua.

Those countries always catch all the breaks. Meantime America herself is lousy with leftists.

30 posted on 01/09/2005 8:45:38 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: PopGonzalez

Sounds good to me.


31 posted on 01/09/2005 8:46:14 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

Nazis? Nazis didn't hunt down anybody. They used reprisal to keep the people down. One of mine, 10 of yours.


32 posted on 01/09/2005 8:46:27 AM PST by johnb838 (To Hell They Will Go. Killmore.)
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To: djpg
Exactly. The tactics are valid (and frankly I'm surprised they haven't been done already). The only problem is that anti-Americans in the media and elsehwere want to use this pejorative term to describe it.
33 posted on 01/09/2005 8:48:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: PopGonzalez

“Death Squad” is a media term, and in this case bares little resemblance to the notorious death squads of Latin America. This would be an operation where soldiers kill terrorists who call themselves “soldiers”. It is far better than dropping 500 pound bombs in residential neighborhoods.


34 posted on 01/09/2005 8:48:27 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: ReignOfError

You cannot argue with the results we got by stopping the cartels that had a strangle hold on the country (which was the objective). Unfortunately, a corrupt government came to power and turned a blind eye to the drug activity in the jungles which in turned fueled a rebellion.


35 posted on 01/09/2005 8:50:23 AM PST by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: verity

Hopefully we learned from the mistakes made with Phoenix.


36 posted on 01/09/2005 8:50:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: PopGonzalez
Is this a war or a cotillion?
37 posted on 01/09/2005 8:50:47 AM PST by Beckwith (John, you said I was going to be the First Lady. As of now, you're on the couch.)
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To: correctthought

Be careful with that suggestion - two examples of her helping with children spring to mind - Waco where dozens of children burned to death at her instigation and Elian Gonzales who returned to Cuba at the point of a gun pursuant to her orders...Now, if we sent her and told the "good" Iraqui's that she would be in charge of their children unless they assisted in finding the perps, you would have a solution.


38 posted on 01/09/2005 8:53:10 AM PST by MarkT
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To: PopGonzalez
...sending special forces to train "death squads"...

Good idea, probably needs a more obfuscatory name.

A Hellfire missile, Howitzer, or 500 lb. bomb is a less discriminant "death squad". A Special Forces trained group could better than munitions separate the combatants from the innocent.

39 posted on 01/09/2005 8:57:35 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: verity
Remember Phoenix?

Remember the CIA's Provincial Interrogation Center Program?

Rather effective. From a U.S. Army history:

On the same day the Viet Cong who had been detained were sent to a combined interrogation center established by the Mobile Intelligence Civil Affairs Team and Vietnamese provincial officials at the province capital. Later, the interrogation reports provided information that the enemy elements encountered had been a platoon-size cadre and a newly recruited Viet Cong company. The cadre was reportedly equipped only with small arms, and the company had few weapons. The search for the Viet Cong continued through 5 July and ambushes were again established during the night.

Seems to have worked.

40 posted on 01/09/2005 9:04:37 AM PST by Racehorse
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