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Feds threatened suit over military ballots - Washington
The Seattle Times ^ | Jan 10,2005 | Postman, Thomas

Posted on 01/10/2005 6:03:53 AM PST by djf

OLYMPIA — Less than a month before the November election, the U.S. Department of Justice threatened to sue Washington state because it was moving too slowly in mailing military ballots overseas.

At that point Washington was the only state that hadn't mailed its overseas ballots.

Questions about military ballots have come up frequently since the Nov. 2 election ended with a deadlocked governor's race. Democrat Christine Gregoire was certified governor-elect Dec. 30 and is to be sworn in Wednesday. But Republican Dino Rossi has made the military ballots, generally seen as Republican votes, a key part of his effort to call for a new election.

On Oct. 7, State Elections Director Nick Handy sent all county auditors an e-mail tagged "URGENT" telling them about a threat from the senior litigation attorney for the Department of Justice. Handy said the state's attorney had been told the federal government "is preparing a lawsuit to be filed tomorrow against the state of Washington."

He said the conflict could be avoided with what he described as "one final offer" from the federal government. The next day he wrote the Justice Department agreeing to a compromise:

Four counties — Franklin, Pend Oreille, San Juan and Whatcom — would mail federal write-in ballots instead of regular absentee ballots so they could meet the federally imposed deadline. The federal write-in ballots included spaces to write in candidates for president and Congress, as well as a separate section to write in candidates for state or local offices, though no office was listed. Military voters could vote for governor by listing that race and indicating their candidate's political party, even if they didn't know his or her name.

Regular state absentee ballots, which list all candidates for governor and other state offices, were sent soon after, with what officials said was time to get the ballots back to be counted. Washington was ahead of a deadline set by state law, but that clearly wasn't good enough for the federal government.

"They just put their foot down," Handy said yesterday in an interview. "When you get a call from them and they say 'You're doing something by tomorrow or we're filing a lawsuit,' it really gets your attention."

All but one county met the federal deadline, Handy said. Island County fell a few days behind in mailing less than 1,000 ballots, an oversight he said was reported to the Justice Department.

A Justice Department spokesman yesterday declined to comment.

Rossi's challenge

Rossi won the first two of three counts of the closest election in state history. Gregoire won the last count by 129 votes.

Last week, Rossi challenged the gubernatorial election in court and included a claim of mishandled military ballots.

"Military overseas and other absentee voters may not have received or been sent their absentee ballots in a timely manner and could have been disenfranchised by the neglect, mistake, or error of election officials," according to the case filed by Republicans in Chelan County Superior Court.

Rossi was joined at a news conference by the parents of Tyler Farmer, a Marine wounded in Iraq who didn't get his ballot until the day after the election and was unable to have his vote for Rossi counted.

Farmer's story also was featured in Republican radio ads calling for a new vote. A small rally was held near Fort Lewis last week to draw attention to the issue of military ballots.

But election officials say there is no evidence of any widespread problem with military voters.

Under state law, counties this year were required to send absentee ballots, including ballots for the military, by Oct. 18 for the Nov. 2 general election. It was a tight deadline because the state's primary was Sept. 14, leaving just over a month to print and distribute ballots.

The Justice Department "understands the timing issues relating to our primary and the complications associated with printing ballots to meet this deadline," Handy said in his e-mail to auditors.

Federal attorneys may have understood, but they wanted ballots in the mail sooner. Indeed, the Department of Justice sued Pennsylvania and Georgia over the timeliness of the mailing of their overseas ballots.

The Department of Defense and the Department of Justice sent a letter to Secretary of State Sam Reed on July 21 reminding him of deadlines to stay in compliance with the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act.

A follow-up fax came Sept. 29. It said that the military's Federal Voting Assistance Program strongly recommends mailing ballots 45 days before the election, which for Washington would have been less than a week after the primary.

The fax also said studies by postal authorities "have established that a minimum of 30 days is necessary for the round-trip transit of absentee ballots mailed to overseas voters and then sent back to election officials."

Washington was already days behind that goal.

"The Department of Justice remains ready to assist you in complying with this federal statute," said the fax from Assistant U.S. Attorney General R. Alexander Acosta. "However, we will not hesitate to take legal action if necessary to make sure that overseas voters are not disenfranchised."

After polling county election officials, the Secretary of State's Office told the Justice Department that all but four counties would have ballots in the mail by Oct. 8, with the rest coming the following week.

That's what prompted the threat of a lawsuit and the compromise of getting at least the federal write-in ballots in the mail.

But counties had no control after that over whether the postal service and the military delivered the ballots in time, said Pam Floyd, the state's assistant elections director.

Some counties took extra measures to make sure military personnel received ballots. Clark County, for instance, sent letters to military members asking for e-mail addresses and fax numbers so the county would be better prepared in case their absentee ballots did not arrive in time.

Military and overseas voters can ask their home county to fax or e-mail ballots to them. They can be faxed back as well.

King County wound up e-mailing and faxing ballots to some military and overseas voters. The county issued a total of 15,289 military and overseas ballots. Of those, 12,694 were returned and all but 220 were found to be valid and counted, according to statistics from the King County elections division.

Unlike regular absentee voters, who must have their ballots postmarked by Election Day, military and overseas voters only have to date their ballot and sign an oath that they voted by Nov. 2.

"There is no reason for a military member who wants to vote to not be able to cast a ballot," Floyd said. "But they do have to make an effort."

Troops cite mishaps

Military personnel overseas, though, say making an effort is not always enough.

"As far as I know, I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that 95% of the people in my platoon, company and battalion did not receive a ballot," Marine Cpl. Ted Lester of Snohomish County e-mailed from Fallujah.

"The other 5% did, but they received them burned beyond recognition and about 4-5 weeks too late."

Lester said that the mail system in Iraq "is a joke" under the best circumstances, that one mail truck was blown up a week before the election and that it was difficult to get information about where to send write-in ballots.

He said he never got his ballot, which he would have used to vote for Rossi.

On board the USS Trenton, Ensign David Mauel of Chehalis said he didn't get a ballot by Election Day.

"We returned to port one day before the actual election and then my ballot was finally processed through our ship's post office the day after the election. Either way, I just assumed that voting was pointless because my ballot would have been received back in Washington state after the election," he said in an e-mail.

Rossi spokeswoman Mary Lane said the system does not appear to work well for military voters.

"Just the fact that we were the last state to get our military ballots out is really disturbing," she said, and unfair to military personnel. "They are in Afghanistan and Iraq dodging bullets and bombs and the burden should not fall on them."

Lisa Cohen, a spokeswoman for the state Democratic Party, said no one has shown evidence of "broad disenfranchisement" of military voters. "Was there some isolated cases? Quite possibly," she said. But she said that most of the problems could be avoided by the alternative methods of voting available to military personnel.

She also said the tight deadline between the primary and the general elections is an argument for moving the primary earlier in the year, as Reed proposed last week.

David Postman: 360-943-9882



TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: dinorossi; electionfraud; gregoire; revote; rossi; stealingelections
I believe that the compromise allowed all the Militaries Federal results to be counted, but the State/Local results from their ballots were thrown out.
1 posted on 01/10/2005 6:03:53 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

with dems (stealth-commies) in charge no one should be surprised at this


2 posted on 01/10/2005 6:06:31 AM PST by NoClones
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To: djf

The whole ordeal is absurd. WA needs fixin.


3 posted on 01/10/2005 6:08:01 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: djf

This burns me. We just retired from the military and it irks me to no end that the Dems would do this to our military people. Every effort should be made to make sure this is not allowed to happen again.


4 posted on 01/10/2005 6:10:29 AM PST by imskylark
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To: imskylark

I would think firing the person(s) who were supposed to get the ballots to our guys would be a good start... but it ain't gonna happen, they will do everything to maintain plausible deniability.


5 posted on 01/10/2005 6:12:52 AM PST by djf
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To: djf

Nothing new here. Libturds HATE the military and will do ANYTHING to screw us over. Small wonder 95% of the military is CONSERVATIVE! I always put ANY liberal under my command ON SH&T DETAILS until they saw the light!!


6 posted on 01/10/2005 6:15:23 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: HMFIC

What hacks me off is that the dems will do everything they can to get a vote out of some freakin homeless goober who lives and p*sses in the alleys in downtown Seattle, but our boys WHO ARE DIEING over there aren't good enough.


7 posted on 01/10/2005 6:23:37 AM PST by djf
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To: djf
I guess for the Dems every vote counts as long as it's a vote for them. Where is their outrage at this ordeal? Where is the good reverend Jackson and the other clown, Sharpton, screaming and picketing in behalf of the soldiers? Afterall, minorities are the majority in the military, you'd think that the DNC or the Rainbow Coalition or even moveon.org would care about them but that's proof again that they could care less about the minorities, especially about minorities who tend to vote Republican, as the majority of our military does.
8 posted on 01/10/2005 6:24:13 AM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: djf

No doubt. They are nutjobs as a whole but they are smart. They KNOW that the military HATES them and thus, try to cancel out the votes by chucking them for whatever reason. Al Bore got 15,000 or so tossed out in Florida in Election 2000.

The libturds have crapped in our corn flakes for so long, that MAINSTREAM Americans can SEE IT now and that has seriously hurt the libturds. Liberalism, IMHO, is going the way of the Dodo Bird and is swirling down the toilet. Too late for them.


9 posted on 01/10/2005 6:27:26 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: imskylark

Algore did it. Why expect an improvement this time around ?


10 posted on 01/10/2005 6:43:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

"Island County fell a few days behind in mailing less than 1,000 ballots..."

Island County has a population of 74,000 people, of which more than 6,000 are military, mostly Navy. I don't think this figure includes family members or retirees, just active duty. The Navy is the county's largest employer. The way they got out the overseas ballots doesn't speak well for the county elections board.


11 posted on 01/10/2005 8:51:35 AM PST by beelzepug (Parking For Witches Only--All Others Will Be Toad.)
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To: beelzepug

The dems have outdone themselves with this voter fraud fiasco.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 8:57:34 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Yup. Reports are that today/tomorrow there are joint meetings in the legislature that are supposed to decide if they give Gregoire a "Certificate of Election"

Gosh, I wonder what the (heavily) democrat controlled body will do.

I still wish we had the equivalent of the Texas Rangers here.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 9:24:39 AM PST by djf
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To: djf
I would think firing the person(s) who were supposed to get the ballots to our guys would be a good start... but it ain't gonna happen, they will do everything to maintain plausible deniability.

This is one of the biggest arguments in my mind towards privatizing as many government bureaucrats as we can. Without the customer/voter as the final judgment, these people are totally unaccountable.

(Of course, you'll remember that Howard Dean was vehemently against privatization and received gushing support from 'public employee' unions)

14 posted on 01/10/2005 2:46:21 PM PST by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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