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Bush regrets hurting U.S. diplomacy
rooters ^ | 1-13-04

Posted on 01/13/2005 5:47:28 PM PST by Indy Pendance

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To: alnick; COEXERJ145

That's never happened, ever.


41 posted on 01/13/2005 6:20:54 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Dog Gone
It frankly drives me nuts how many freepers respond to headlines instead of what the article actually says.

I agree.

42 posted on 01/13/2005 6:23:30 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: COEXERJ145

Much ado about nothing. Slow news day.


43 posted on 01/13/2005 6:24:38 PM PST by Ravi
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To: BriarBey

" yeah lets do away with one of the big things that made George W. so endearing. His ability to not be PC."

Exactly.
Otherwise ,we might as well have Trent Lott or other generic, bland, please,please love me Republicans as POTUS.


44 posted on 01/13/2005 6:25:23 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Indy Pendance
Bush Will Watch What He Says in Second Term - ABC News

President Bush flanked by first lady Laura Bush and Barbara Walters at the White House. (ABC News)

45 posted on 01/13/2005 6:27:45 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ShadowDancer
This is satire, right?

Yes. It's Reuters.

46 posted on 01/13/2005 6:27:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dog Gone
First of all, remember that headlines for articles often paint the entire article before you even read the first word.

Frankly, I don't know why you are speaking to me about this. I am quite intelligent enough not to need my hand held after reading a headline. I did read the body of the article. I am bothered by what he said, in the body of it. Did you read past the headline or are you just so accoustomed to backing his every move that you yourself couldn't see past it?

47 posted on 01/13/2005 6:28:00 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Lancey Howard

We'll see tomorrow.


48 posted on 01/13/2005 6:29:54 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Indy Pendance

Oh, GLORY, GLORY, Hallelujah!!!!! President Bush finally admitted he made a mistake!!!! Yeehaw!! The liberals can all dance in the street, and maybe we can stop hearing that stupid question at news conferences, now!!!

As if.


49 posted on 01/13/2005 6:34:56 PM PST by Proud 2BeTexan (Proud to be from the same state as our ROCKIN' president!)
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To: ShadowDancer; Indy Pendance
I know that Laura called him on the 'dead or alive' comment.

It wasn't particularly diplomatic, but it was awesome!

(I'm sure he meant it, and still does.....)

Watch his behavior, appointments, etc. and consider the bias of the article before you overreact to this. He's pushing conservatism and strength with his actions, and that's what counts.......not what he said to Bawbwah as written by Reuters, IMO.

50 posted on 01/13/2005 6:35:50 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Dog Gone; ShadowDancer

Dog is RIGHT. The headline is crap. They twisted this as hard as they possibly could. He said BEFORE that Laura chewed him out for the Osama thing, thus "regret." Then he says, "Our propaganda is not as good as the Islamists." Which they contrue as "Bush hurt our propaganda."

CRAP.


51 posted on 01/13/2005 6:36:23 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ShadowDancer
You were overreacting to Bush's statements in this article to some degree. The bulk of my comments were directed to the freeper world in general.

To the extent that they apply to you is your call. I must have really offended you or hit a nerve in order for you to type out your last question.

52 posted on 01/13/2005 6:38:29 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Indy Pendance

Whether he regrets saying that or not, I think he’s going to regret saying that he regrets it.


53 posted on 01/13/2005 6:39:22 PM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: ohioWfan

I had no problem with the 'dead or alive' comment. Why would I gave a rat's ass what his wife thought about it?


54 posted on 01/13/2005 6:39:29 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Our public diplomacy efforts aren't ... very robust, and aren't very good, compared to the public diplomacy efforts of those who would like to spread hatred and ... and vilify the United States," Bush said.

I'd agree with that. When Liberal institutions, fanatical Islamists and oppressive regimes control the very air breathed and the words read it is a near impossible task to combat the propaganda UNTIL Freedom begins to take root.

But he said he thought U.S. efforts to aid victims of the December 26 Indian Ocean tsunami would help improve Washington's image abroad.

He may be right. Oh, we'll never hear about it. Make no mistake that the government will suddenly change their attitude. Do not expect to see the population shouting they love the U.S. on camera. The positive effects would be felt among the general population, give them pause, and my guess change a few hearts. People we'll never know that will impact their own population in their daily lives.

No where (so far) do I see an admittance the President feels he, himself, hurt U.S. policy. He does admit some of his langauge wasn't diplomatic. Which is true, one of the reasons I love him.

Bush said his wife, Laura, disapproved and "chewed me out right after that." "So I do have to be cautious about, you know, conveying thoughts in a way maybe that doesn't send wrong impressions about our country," he said.

Sounds as though Laura made a point in a private discussion that caused him pause. I would say he respects his wife, and trusted her instincts on the particular issue.

I personally had no trouble with the language. In the end, G.W.B. is who he is. Accept him, or don't. If his conscience demands he temper these statements, I'm not going to say he shouldn't follow that Voice. But, I also know this is who the man is. He'll continue to have moments when he "shoots straight". I'll cherish those moments as they arise. In a 'diplomatic world' those moments of honesty are like fresh air.

55 posted on 01/13/2005 6:40:21 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: sam_paine
"So I do have to be cautious about, you know, conveying thoughts in a way maybe that doesn't send wrong impressions about our country," he said.

Assuming this is accurate and taken in context, you are happy with this?

56 posted on 01/13/2005 6:41:54 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Indy Pendance
"I remember when I talked about Osama bin Laden, I said we're going to get him dead or alive. I guess it's not the most diplomatic of language," Bush said.

Of course not. It was the truth. President Bush shouldn't feel badly about that at all.

Look, if we cater to the European ideal of diplomacy and "self-defense" then we will lose this war, and one day it will be an American city disappearing in a mushroom cloud.

57 posted on 01/13/2005 6:43:54 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Dog Gone

Why do you think he should have to couch his remarks at all when speaking about terrorists that killed our citizens on our soil? Why should he have to back pedal at all on any of that? Maybe I'm reading you wrong and you don't think anything here might be written as said. If so, we can wait until tomorrow to find out.


58 posted on 01/13/2005 6:45:33 PM PST by ShadowDancer (Vivere est cogitare)
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To: Indy Pendance
"Our public diplomacy efforts aren't ... very robust, and aren't very good, compared to the public diplomacy efforts of those who would like to spread hatred and ... and vilify the United States," Bush said.

President Bush don't worry I know your doing your best, I can only imagine how hard this has to be when you have Socialist Democrats who hate America spew anti-American propaganda 24-7 on TV, Radio, News Papers and movies.

59 posted on 01/13/2005 6:51:17 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ShadowDancer
Ummmmmm......it was referenced in the article you were referring to as hopefully being 'satire.'

Please correct me if you think I'm wrong, but IMO, the factual reference to what Laura said has bearing on your comment.

(btw, I don't care if you care about what she said........you a bit defensive tonight?).

60 posted on 01/13/2005 6:51:45 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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