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Harry the Nazi: a defence of the idiot prince
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Posted on 01/13/2005 5:47:48 PM PST by veronica
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To: LibertarianInExile; Lukasz; A. Pole
well, most poles would not like the Teutonic flag displayed I guess
141
posted on
01/16/2005 3:10:04 AM PST
by
Cronos
(Never forget 9/11)
To: Michael81Dus
it is generally correct to say that the average Wehrmacht soldier was not to blame while the average SS guy bears a whole lot of guilt.
well put
142
posted on
01/16/2005 3:14:45 AM PST
by
Cronos
(Never forget 9/11)
To: Cronos
Only if this flag would be somehow anti-polish. I think that most Poles dont know too many Teutonic flags...
143
posted on
01/16/2005 3:58:41 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: Lukasz
Read
this the wierdest anti-Polish rant I've ever read!
144
posted on
01/16/2005 4:10:02 AM PST
by
Cronos
(Never forget 9/11)
To: Cronos; lizol; Grzegorz 246
Yes I read this text few months ago, I must say I have a lot of laugh because of that. I love this fragments about comparing Germans to dogs in polish literature. :) I love this paranoia which this author has and maximally biased facts. It is magnificent how this guy deeply penetrate polish literature (some texts are unknown even for Poles) without understanding motivation of the polish authors. He completely dont understand why these text were born, probably without reasons in his opinion. Evil Poles did it to innocent Germans.
It would be interesting read something similar but about imagine of the Pole in German literature but not so biased of course.
145
posted on
01/16/2005 4:54:32 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: Cronos
So this jerk claims that Poland was created by Germans and populated by Germans and later someone forced them to become Poles... It's not even funny.
To: Grzegorz 246
For me it is quite funny. :)
147
posted on
01/16/2005 6:41:08 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: Cronos
well, most poles would not like the Teutonic flag displayed I guess Most of Poles are not so sensitive. Although my mother, when she hears German spoken in a restaurant, she leaves the place. I guess she would not like to see any German flag either.
148
posted on
01/16/2005 7:03:33 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hash Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: Lukasz
Didn't Hermann show us this page ?
To: Grzegorz 246
So this jerk claims that Poland was created by Germans and populated by Germans and later someone forced them to become Poles. This text is far out, man! WHO EXACTLY was able to force Germans to become Poles if Poles did not exist?
It reminds me funny Galichan/Ukrainian theories about Russification of the Ukraine under the Polish/Lithuanian rule. Must be done by the same people.
150
posted on
01/16/2005 8:45:15 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hash Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: A. Pole
"It reminds me funny Galichan/Ukrainian theories about Russification of the Ukraine under the Polish/Lithuanian rule. Must be done by the same people."
It also reminds me theories spread by Putinists, who claim that Ukrainians are in fact Russians.
There was Polonization under the Polish/Lithuanian rule, not Russification.
To: Cronos
"left out the 'soul' of Germany -- Austria. "
No argument here -- Bismark and the Emperor did Maria Theresa and Austria wrong on more than one occassion.
Bismark wanted to unify Germany so that the control would be Prussian. He did not want too many Catholics in Germany -- enough to make it large and powerful; but not enough to move the center of mass south and Catholic.
However, German culture was Christian, not "Aryan".
What Bismark did was impose a largely alien Prussian head upon the German states. The culture of the traditional Germany states was still Christian.
The Nazi so-called "Aryan" philosophy was imposed upon the German people, not a natural outgrowth of their culture.
To: Grzegorz 246
It also reminds me theories spread by Putinists, who claim that Ukrainians are in fact Russians. I am not sure what the actual Putinists claim. My take is that Ukraine, Russia and Byelorus are in process od divergence (which maybe can be reversed to some degree) from the origial ethno/cultural unit called Rus. Rus, started in the north as Germanic tribe of Swedish Vikings organized Slavic and Finnish tribes into one society, first in the center in Novgorod then in Kiev. Then the east was conquered by Mongols/Tartars and west was conquered by Lithuanians/Poles. Later Moscow became the center of revival.
Galichan theory was fabricated in XIXc Lvov and denied Russian claim to be the continuation of Rus, at the same time Galichans framed the history of Ukraine as victim of Russian invasion. In such view the actual history of Rus from IXc to XVIIc is losing any sense. It is very sad to base one's national identity on a lie.
153
posted on
01/16/2005 10:42:25 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hash Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: Cronos
"Of far more impressive lineage was the Hapsburg dynasty which traces itself back to Charlemagne and beyond"
Again, no argument here. There were some wonderful, hard-working people in the German East. Many of those who survived the exodus came to the US.
However, the control of Germany by the Prussians was a mistake. Bismark was a schemer and a genius, but he hurt Germany because of his anti-Catholicism and demand to control by Prussia.
To: A. Pole
"My take is that Ukraine, Russia and Byelorus are in process od divergence (which maybe can be reversed to some degree) from the origial ethno/cultural unit called Rus."
Russian, Ukrainian and Belorussian people are eastern Slavs, just like Poles, Czechs and Slovaks are western Slavs and the fact that hundreds years ago the first group was a part of one territorial unit doesn't prove that there is some special connection between them.
Didn't you and other fans of Putin claim a while ago that Ukrainian language is a mix of Polish & Russian and that Ukrainian nation doesn't really exist, but was invented by Germans ?
To: Grzegorz 246
156
posted on
01/16/2005 11:23:27 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: A. Pole; Grzegorz 246
With Chechens is even more funny, they absolutely arent Russians only their land and all natural resources are ethnic Russian.
157
posted on
01/16/2005 11:27:04 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: Cronos
btw How do you found this article?
158
posted on
01/16/2005 11:31:43 AM PST
by
Lukasz
(Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
To: fo0hzy
How does one get Nazi out of 'colonials and natives'?
159
posted on
01/16/2005 11:37:32 AM PST
by
Netizen
(jmo)
To: Polybius
The Iron Cross has been the apolitical symbol of the German fighting man since Napoleonic times. The iron cross dates back to the pagans and sun worship.
You can click on the image and be taken to the British Museum, where you can read about the stele and the iron/maltese cross.
160
posted on
01/16/2005 11:54:13 AM PST
by
ET(end tyranny)
(Isa:59:20-And a redeemer will come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob....)
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