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To: neverdem

Depending on load out, altitude etc the aircraft may only be able to achieve less than the maximum listed structural g limit. An aircraft may be rated at 9g but under certain instances can only push 7.5. The F22 will be able to do things at speeds where the F16 would get spanked.

A F15 can’t sustain some of the turns which it may do instantaneous. A F22 can turn and turn and turn while the other runs out of energy. No energy=dead.

More electricity=see further and jam better. TWO really big F**ing engines provide lots of power both for a fight (maneuver) and for a radar. One over Radius Squared.

Think of the F22 and F35 as a F15 and F16 with stealth respectively. (Conceptually)

No stealth=modern radar and air to air missiles see you really far and clear. Soon it will no longer be viable to fly with a 6square meter RCS (F4) frontal. There won't even be holes in the IADS where you can squeeze a conventional 4th GEN airframe through. You’ll get seen from far away, you’ll be shot at from far away. Finally, you’ll die stupid, never knowing you were even shot at.

But that’s just how I see it.

Red6


43 posted on 01/14/2005 11:24:35 AM PST by Red6
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To: Red6; Poohbah
From the first paragraph in the link of comment# 42:

INTRODUCTION

Aeromedical concern about the effects of acceleration has a long history. Concern was first stimulated during World War I when pilots complained of a loss of vision and consciousness during pullouts from dives in aerial combat. Interest in this area has continued until the present day, where the effects of sustained acceleration have become a major limiting factor in the operation of the newer generation fighter aircraft (F-15, F-16, F-18). Because of their high thrust-to-weight ratios and structural strength these aircraft are able to routinely fly in the 7 to 9 +Gz range for sustained periods. Future aircraft designs such as the advanced tactical fighter (ATF) will make it possible to fly in the 10 to 12 +Gz range if the human limitations to such operations can be overcome.

I'm a doc, not a flyboy. Could you translate or explain the following?

Soon it will no longer be viable to fly with a 6square meter RCS(radar cross section?) (F4) frontal(?). There won't even be holes in the IADS(improved air defense system?)where you can squeeze a conventional 4th GEN(eration?)airframe through.

Poohbah, any comments?

45 posted on 01/14/2005 11:58:39 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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