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Robots Don’t See as Well as You Do
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 01/12/2005 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

Posted on 01/14/2005 9:54:48 PM PST by bondserv

Robots Don’t See as Well as You Do   01/12/2005
Robot designers are still working on ways to emulate the human eye.  Just when you thought digital cameras were all the rage, we learn from EurekAlert they are miserable substitutes when put into the eye sockets of robots.  Robot-vision export Vladimir Brajovic explains:

Often, when we take a picture with a digital or film camera, we are disappointed that many details we remember seeing appear in the image buried in deep shadows or washed out in overexposed regions.  This is because our eyes have a built-in mechanism to adapt to local illumination conditions, while our cameras don’t.  Because of this camera deficiency, robot vision often fails.   (Emphasis added.)
But can’t automatic exposure meters do the same thing?  No; they pick either a spot or average of the scene, and adjust all the sensors to the same level.  Our individual rods and cones not only have individual light adjustments, but “talk to each other” about what they see, and do image processing before the signals reach the brain (see 12/30/2003 and 05/27/2003 and 05/22/2003 entries).  Brajovic is trying to develop image sensors with some of these desireable capabilities.
Werner Gitt provides many more gee-whiz statistics about the eye, and other body senses, in a wonderful book, The Wonder of Man.  One square millimeter of retina has 400,000 sensors.  The photoreceptors are so sensitive, a single photon can activate them.  The rods can react in 0.3 seconds, the cones in 0.075 seconds.  Three types of cones, sensitive to different wavelenghts, give us complete coverage of the visible light spectrum, with over 300 discernible hues.  Unlike film, which is rated for a particular “speed” or sensitivity, the eye’s photoreceptors are sensitive over 5 powers of 10, or 100,000 to one.  The signals are transmitted on two separate channels then recombined, to avoid the problem of thermal noise.  The optic nerve also filters out noise by sensing the response from multiple rods within a time limit of 0.02 second, and sending the signal along only if there is nearly simultaneous response from four or five rods scattered across the field.
    Rhodopsin, the light-sensing protein, is a large molecule composed of 350 amino acids (see online book).  To avoid saturation of the photoreceptors, muscles move the eyes in constant jerks called saccades, but the optic nerve and brain automatically compensates for the motion (see 03/29/2002 entry).  The optic nerves cross behind the eyes, and are received by opposite sides of the brain; there, the inverted images are flipped and recombined seamlessly.  The brain even fills in the blanks caused by the holes where the optic nerves leave the retina, by interpolating these “blind spots” with similar pixels from the surrounding field.  Small as they are, the eyes have 120 megapixel resolution and can separate angles of one minute (1') of arc.  What’s more, they can do it in full-motion stereo.  With the help of the iris, eyelid, retina and other mechanisms, we can see everything from dim stars to bright sunlight reflected off snow: a phenomenal range of sensitivity – a factor of 1 million million to one.  And our eyes are not even the sharpest or most sensitive in the animal kingdom.  Need more?  Buy Gitt’s book.  After you enjoy it, hand it to an evolutionist.  Perhaps, though, these days, intentionally giving someone cold shudders would be misconstrued as cruelty (see 07/13/2001 commentary).


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1 posted on 01/14/2005 9:54:49 PM PST by bondserv
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To: Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...

Ping!

Danger Will Robinson!


2 posted on 01/14/2005 9:56:10 PM PST by bondserv (Sincerity with God is the most powerful instigator for change! † [Check out my profile page])
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To: bondserv

On the other hand.
Robots do see (record) what is there.

And humans see an image after adjustment/enhancing by the nerves/rods/cones/discussion-group, and after the subconscious adjusts it to conform to the conscious's wishes.

Who 'sees' better?


3 posted on 01/14/2005 10:07:48 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (>The government of our country was meant to be a servant of the people, not a master.)
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To: bondserv
The human mind (all brains, actually) are primarily pattern matching machines. It's what they do best. We find patterns in what we see -- that's how we identify individual objects and recognize what they are. We find patterns in sounds -- that's how we recognize individual sounds and recognize what they are. We associate current experiences with memories by finding similarities. We read by identifying words and matching them with their meaning. We group the entire world around us into categories made up of patterns -- species, kinds, races, groups, types, etc. It's the core of the old Sesame Street "One of these things is not like the others." In fact, we even find patterns where there aren't any, which is why we see optical illusions and sometimes look at people and are reminded by other people who look similar. When computers become that good at matching patterns, they'll see as well as humans and animals do.
4 posted on 01/14/2005 10:08:37 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: UCANSEE2
Bender can see ten times better than ANY Human can... but only when he isn't influenced by Beer.

And there are 60 Million American Humans who didn't see very well, at least on Nov 2.

5 posted on 01/14/2005 10:10:55 PM PST by C210N
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To: bondserv
The headline is incomplete. It should read as follows:

Robots Don't See as Well as You Do—Yet

6 posted on 01/14/2005 10:56:46 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: bondserv

"Incidentally, it's our understanding that the word robot is considered offensive. The politically correct term is Electronic-American."
-- James Taranto, Opinion Journal, Friday, March 21, 2003


7 posted on 01/14/2005 11:02:43 PM PST by FreeKeys (Either you're part of the solution, or you're part of the precipitate.)
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To: bondserv
Robots Don't See As Well As You Do

"You said it, buster..."

8 posted on 01/15/2005 1:28:12 AM PST by Gigantor (W2 - Oh yeah!)
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To: C210N

9 posted on 01/15/2005 1:32:21 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

One of Bender's funniest lines:

"Camera One!" (One eye socket extends out with audible whirring)

"Camera Two!" (Other eye socket extends out with audible whirring)

"Camera Three!" (Audible whirring, off-camera, below neck level)


10 posted on 01/15/2005 1:37:03 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Psycho_Bunny; Larry Lucido; Zap; Dr.Zoidberg; Professor; Fry; alien; Robot; amy; Scruffy
A highly underrated animated series, in my estimation.

HERE'S TO ANOTHER LOUSY MILLENIUM!

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

11 posted on 01/15/2005 1:52:15 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Pajama Patrol, deputy.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Amy is definitely the hottest babe of the bunch!


12 posted on 01/15/2005 2:29:20 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: snarks_when_bored
Robots Don't See as Well as You Do—Yet

But left to themselves over a few billion years we can be sure they will get a little better. /s

13 posted on 01/15/2005 7:07:35 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: bondserv
Often, when we take a picture with a digital or film camera, we are disappointed that many details we remember seeing appear in the image buried in deep shadows or washed out in overexposed regions.

What Brajovic meant to add, of course, is that we are disappointed that many of those details we remember don't make it onto our photographs. He got so tangled up in qualifying clauses he forgot the main verb.

Yeah. Two hundred years ago we couldn't take photographs at all. What did that prove?

14 posted on 01/15/2005 7:09:36 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
... appear in the image ...

He said it; I didn't parse it. Considering second cup of coffee.

15 posted on 01/15/2005 7:20:15 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Question_Assumptions
We find patterns in what we see -- that's how we identify individual objects and recognize what they are.

Exactly. Vision is what happens in the mind, not in the eyeballs. The retina conveys patterns of light, dark, and color. The mind translates that into the knowledge that specific objects are in specific places

16 posted on 01/15/2005 7:25:46 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: bondserv

When I was a kid I was told by the 2000 we would have house cleaning robots and flying cars. IWANT MY ROBOT! I was also told the end of the world was scheduled for the year 2000. I guess things worked out.


17 posted on 01/15/2005 7:37:02 AM PST by alienken (Bumper sticker idea- We have God in heaven & a Texan in the whitehouse,LIFE IS GOOD!!)
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To: bondserv

BTTT


18 posted on 01/15/2005 7:41:25 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: alienken
When I was a kid I was told by the 2000 we would have house cleaning robots and flying cars. IWANT MY ROBOT! I was also told the end of the world was scheduled for the year 2000. I guess things worked out.

Back in early 1999, the "Foxtrot" comic strip had one of their funniest ones ever:

Husband: "So, it's 1999..."

Wife: "Yup."

[pause...]

Husband: "Shouldn't Martin Landau be on the Moon or something?"

(Younger Freepers may not "get" this one -- it's referencing a cheesy mid-1970's TV series "Star Trek" ripoff):
19 posted on 01/15/2005 7:50:30 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: bondserv
Robots Don’t See as Well as You Do

Not yet, anyway -- and on the plus side robots don't have funny wiring in their visual systems which makes them "see" movement in this STATIC image:


20 posted on 01/15/2005 7:52:20 AM PST by Ichneumon
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