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Knives up ante in arguments
The London Free Press ^ | 2005-01-18 | KELLY PEDRO

Posted on 01/18/2005 10:22:23 AM PST by neverdem

London police say the easily accessible weapons are coming out of pockets in the heat of the moment.

The easy accessibility of knives on the street makes them deadly when emotions run high, London police said following a rash of weekend knifings. "Walking downtown with a pocket knife or some other type of knife . . . is not necessarily a criminal offence," London police Chief Murray Faulkner said yesterday.

"But when emotions erupt, people know they have this weapon in their pocket and they're quick to use it."

Latest police statistics show weapons offences, which aren't broken down by type, are on the rise, up 13 per cent last year over 2003.

That may be because society is more violent, Faulkner said.

"If you grow up bombarded by violence, it will have an impact," he said, referring to TV, movies and video games.

Four people were hurt in three separate knifing attacks over the weekend.

The most serious was about 3 a.m. Sunday, when a fight broke out in the parking lot behind Club Phoenix at Richmond Street and Queens Avenue.

A London man, 23, was in critical but stable condition yesterday with five stab wounds to his chest and arm.

A second city man, also 23, was in serious but stable condition.

Fernando Barrera, 20, of London, is charged with two counts of aggravated assault.

About midnight Sunday, a Toronto man, 27, was arrested in Club Phoenix after a Waterloo man, 23, received a shoulder cut when he was stabbed with a broken bottle.

He was treated and released from hospital.

About the same time, a 17-year-old Londoner was stabbed when teenagers tried to crash a house party on Trellis Crescent in Westmount. He was in serious but stable condition yesterday. A 19-year-old man is charged.

Const. Jeff Arbing said it's not uncommon to find a weapon such as a pocket knife on someone being arrested.

While not illegal, they often become deadly weapons when emotions run high.

Almost monthly, police investigate a stabbing.

"It's a very disturbing trend that is putting public and officer safety in jeopardy," said Arbing.

Knives may be the weapon of choice because crimes involving a firearm come with a minimum sentence judges must impose, he said.

For example, if a person is convicted of robbing a variety store at gunpoint, they get at least one year in jail for using the firearm on top of the sentence for the robbery.

But if the robber used a knife in the same circumstances, there is no minimum sentence for the weapon.

LONDON STABBINGS

- Laura Wilson, 23, was stabbed to death Jan. 9. Her ex-boyfriend has been charged with first-degree murder.

- Two employees of Jack's were escorting a man from the club Nov. 16 when he pulled a knife and stabbed them. Corey Shankar, 20, is charged with several offences, including aggravated assault.

- Bill Smith, 37, died after he was stabbed outside his Clarence Street apartment Nov. 16. Darwin Woodruff, 19, has been charged with second-degree murder.

- Matthew Cook, 22, was stabbed to death June 20 outside the Duchess of Kent Royal Canadian Legion branch during a stag-and-doe dance. Rowhan Lloyd Mitchell, 29, of Strathroy, is charged with manslaughter.


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1 posted on 01/18/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Yeah, ban the knives, your GUN BAN is working GREAT...for the criminal class that is.


2 posted on 01/18/2005 10:23:32 AM PST by HMFIC (The Peace Symbol is the FOOTPRINT of the American CHICKEN!)
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To: neverdem

You know where this is heading...


3 posted on 01/18/2005 10:23:40 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: neverdem
Walking downtown with a pocket knife or some other type of knife . . . is not necessarily a criminal offence

YET!

4 posted on 01/18/2005 10:26:36 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: neverdem
Next they'll ban hands. Those can be used as fists, you know.

And just think! All the idiot gun-grabbers want to reduce America to this kind of insanity!

5 posted on 01/18/2005 10:27:15 AM PST by Prime Choice (I have to keep my expectations low. I can't fake looking impressed.)
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To: facedown
"You know where this is heading..."

To Londoners being wrapped in cotton and locked in their closets to prevent them from arguing?
6 posted on 01/18/2005 10:28:17 AM PST by monday
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To: HMFIC
Now now, they'll only ban the "assault knives", those knives capable of cutting more than one person, or penetrating flesh more than 1/8 inch deep. After all, no one uses knives to hunt with, so what are sportsmen so upset about?

Therefore, starting today, all knives can be turned in at the local constable's office in exchange for a nice, lovely plastic spork, still in its original wrapper.

7 posted on 01/18/2005 10:29:22 AM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Prime Choice

I think they'll ban violent television and movies before they resort to banning hands. Teletubbies and Care Bears, 24x7.


8 posted on 01/18/2005 10:29:23 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Prime Choice

Tongue's the fastest weapon known to mankind. Must be removed at all cost to keep anyone from being hurt.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 10:30:17 AM PST by handy old one (Never confuse the facts with the issues!!)
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To: neverdem
"Latest police statistics show weapons offences, which aren't broken down by type, are on the rise, up 13 per cent last year over 2003."

Gotta wonder if they're not broken down by type because they would show how ineffective their gun bans are.

"About midnight Sunday, a Toronto man, 27, was arrested in Club Phoenix after a Waterloo man, 23, received a shoulder cut when he was stabbed with a broken bottle."

Hmmm...didn't know folks in England were carrying broken bottles in their pockets.

Best Regards

Sergio
10 posted on 01/18/2005 10:30:28 AM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: neverdem

Well the answer is clear: cutlery must be banned.

But fear not, law-abiding citizens. The state will cut your meat FOR you.


11 posted on 01/18/2005 10:30:45 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Sergio

A nation of shopkeepers indeed...


12 posted on 01/18/2005 10:31:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: HMFIC

Is it still permissible to carry a sword at your side in England?............


13 posted on 01/18/2005 10:31:57 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: neverdem

And heeeere we go...Anyone who doubted that the slippery slope of gun control exists should read this twice.


14 posted on 01/18/2005 10:32:01 AM PST by opus86
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To: neverdem
One of the crime fighting techniques of the police in london was to put up a flyer at the site of a crime. The flyer describe the crime, victim, and assailant.

But crime so exploded in London that the city was soon wallpapered with these flyers and the police stopped posting them.

15 posted on 01/18/2005 10:33:16 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Sergio

I'm pretty sure this is London, Ontario.


16 posted on 01/18/2005 10:34:58 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Gefreiter

No kidding. In feudal Japan, each villiage had only one knife - chained to a large rock in the village center. Notice that Oriental food never needs a knife for eating.

Fast forward: With modern packaging, you could easily buy everything pre-cut and not need any knives, for cooking or consumption.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 10:35:06 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: facedown

"You know where this is heading..."

Yep!

"Westside Story"


18 posted on 01/18/2005 10:35:33 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: neverdem

"If you grow up bombarded by violence, it will have an impact," he said, referring to TV, movies and video games."




I'm not going to say that an inundation of violent scenes isn't having some sort of impact; however Television et al is the current scapegoat. It doesn't matter to some that violence pre-dates Television. A case could easily be made that violence was more rampant as well.

I wonder if the level of exposure we are currently experiencing might not be having the opposite effect as people are more aware of the results of violent behavior, and have outlets for their aggression.


19 posted on 01/18/2005 10:36:02 AM PST by contemplator
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To: neverdem

They better ban grinders and all metal because with one and the other a fairly good knife can be made in about a hr.

A file and metal just takes a bit longer.

But then who needs metal some tape and glass will work just fine. Oh I forget you can make knifes out of the right kind of rock.

Damm I guess disarmament only hurts the honest people.


20 posted on 01/18/2005 10:36:19 AM PST by riverrunner
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