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Leaving the Brothel Behind
New York Times ^
| 1/19/05
| NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Posted on 01/19/2005 7:28:26 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: appeal2
Now they import these people from Cambodia. A girl making $1.50 a day in Thailand is better than a girl starving in Cambodia. I have a few friends who you would consider on the 'slave' scale when it comes to wages. They are simply happy they can make money and be alive.
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:11:28 PM PST
by
killjoy
(War is not the answer, simply part of the solution)
To: appeal2
Thailand had many similar forms of white slavery, but since it became more developed these practices stopped. Now they import these people from Cambodia.The Thai prostitutes come mainly from Isan in northeastern Thailand, not from Cambodia.
Though I like your premise about capitalism, Cambodia also is a fairly capitalist society, but with a lot of corruption and a kleptocratic government.
The real problem is that these rural societies which are dirt, dirt poor don't provide too many chances for education or training.
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:18:35 PM PST
by
angkor
To: killjoy
That is because all the sex tourists were in Phuket. Don't you read FR? LOL!Oh yes, I forgot. Every Westerner in Thailand is a sex tourist. Right.
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:22:16 PM PST
by
angkor
To: Tax-chick
One girl with a *legitimate* marketable skill and a reasonable future may not seem like much, but God values every person immeasurably, and will reward Mr. Kristof for his kindness.Beautifully stated, Tax-chick.
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:26:47 PM PST
by
arasina
(So there.)
To: appeal2
I hope when I die, I'll be known as a "do-gooder".
Yep.
That old AmericanInTokyo did good on this earth.
Yep, that's how I hope I'll go out and on to the other side. "Do-gooder."
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:27:02 PM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
To: wagglebee
Has outrage been banished from the handbook?
What supercilious driveling, hubristic back-patting, sort of senseless jerk would write this for pay?
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:27:47 PM PST
by
Old Professer
(When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
To: appeal2
This reminds me of stories I've read about how African blacks confiscated many stores from their Indian owners during the early years of independence. What the new store owners were unable to understand was that you couldn't immediately spend the profits from each day's sales, because you had to use some of the money to restock.
So, all the stores ran out of goods, the new owners ran out of money, and the economy collapsed.
Keeping the shelves filled seems like a simple concept, but if you've never done anything like that before, evidently the logic of it escapes you, just as it did this girl's family.
You need a little training in basic business methods, and above all you need LAW, so people can run a business without having it stolen, ripped off, or confiscated.
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posted on
01/19/2005 8:54:46 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: wagglebee
I remember hearing about children in Christian schools helping to raise money for a human rights group to buy slaves in Sudan (I think) and then set them free.
I also remember hearing about a bunch of sanctimonious human rights groups accusing them of "supporting the slave trade."
Those scumbags are typical leftists... Recognizing a problem, and then sitting around, talking amongst themselves about what a terrible thing it is... But condemning those trying to do something about it!
Mark
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posted on
01/19/2005 9:09:27 PM PST
by
MarkL
(That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
To: Tax-chick
One girl with a *legitimate* marketable skill and a reasonable future may not seem like much, but God values every person immeasurably, and will reward Mr. Kristof for his kindness.I recall a saying by someone far wiser than myself saying that when you save one person, it's like saving the whole world.
Mark
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posted on
01/19/2005 9:12:38 PM PST
by
MarkL
(That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
To: wagglebee
The author fails to mention the tragedy that communism is on country.
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posted on
01/19/2005 9:17:15 PM PST
by
John Lenin
(I feel bad about myself because they really are sick)
To: Old Professer
What supercilious driveling, hubristic back-patting, sort of senseless jerk would write this for pay? Try a tall glass of Metamucil. You'll feel a whole lot better.
To: cripplecreek
The Europeans here don't just look for sex. They look for weird sex.
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posted on
01/19/2005 9:24:38 PM PST
by
expatguy
(http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
To: wagglebee
The white slavery trade isn't limited to Southeast Asia. Young girls are also smuggled into this country for the same purpose. Most are Korean, Eastern European, and Latin American.
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posted on
01/19/2005 9:25:24 PM PST
by
JackelopeBreeder
(Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed terrorist vigilante cucaracha!)
To: angkor
In another 5-10 years the Patpong district will go the way of the Combat Zone in Boston and Times Square in NYC. Going into one of those Thai bars and seeing the show to me was one of the most depressing sites I had ever witnessed. You could see that these people were totally exploited.
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posted on
01/19/2005 10:11:00 PM PST
by
appeal2
To: John Lenin
The author fails to mention the tragedy that communism is on country.Cambodia has a screwy government, but it is not communist. A warlord's kleptocracy maybe, but not communist.
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posted on
01/20/2005 1:30:48 AM PST
by
angkor
To: wagglebee
Kristof actual praises President Bush in a prior article
"...President Bush has done more than his predecessors in making sex trafficking an issue, and his State Department has done a first-rate job exerting pressure - but there's so much more that we could do. The Bush administration could put a real dent in sex trafficking if we were to treat it as firmly as we do, say, pirated movies, and this brazen incident in Cambodia would be a fine place to start...."
(
Prior NYT Article)
To: wagglebee
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posted on
01/20/2005 8:18:49 AM PST
by
satchmodog9
(Murder and weather are our only news)
To: angkor
A warlord's kleptocracy maybe, but not communist.
Is there a differnce between the two ?
To: John Lenin
Is there a difference between the two ?Yes. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge were communists.
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posted on
01/20/2005 9:55:54 AM PST
by
angkor
To: wagglebee
Ms. Rendall added that there was only one problem with Srey Neth: "She doesn't want to do massage. ...What?!?!?!? No Happy Ending?
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posted on
01/20/2005 9:57:41 AM PST
by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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