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World-largest Submarine To Be Scrapped
Novosti ^ | January 20 2005

Posted on 01/20/2005 10:03:50 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: SampleMan; 68skylark
Here's a favorite pic of mine. Seawolf sub breaks through the ice, gets attacked by polar bear.


41 posted on 01/20/2005 11:09:49 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: July 4th; SampleMan; 68skylark
Oh well...looks like their photohost doesn't like me embedding images. Here's the link.

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=bear_sub1.htm
42 posted on 01/20/2005 11:12:26 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: 68skylark
Of course it can launch it's missiles. What happens after
launch is another question.
43 posted on 01/20/2005 11:13:14 AM PST by conejo99
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To: July 4th
Your photo didn't come through -- just a red "x."

While we're on the topic, here's one I like:


44 posted on 01/20/2005 11:13:36 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: Dog Gone
That's a very good question, although how much would it really cost to tow it out to sea and then use it for target practice?

I'm guessing you'd want to handle the nuclear reactor a little more delicately. :)
45 posted on 01/20/2005 11:14:00 AM PST by Daus
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To: 68skylark
The article says this submarine can launch its ICBM's while submerged under "thick polar ice." That sounds like propaganda to me.

Well, if the target's the polar ice cap....

46 posted on 01/20/2005 11:14:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

The Hunt For Red October - great movie.


47 posted on 01/20/2005 11:18:06 AM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: knighthawk

That's a lot of golf clubs...


48 posted on 01/20/2005 11:27:49 AM PST by battlecry
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To: Tijeras_Slim

lol good one


49 posted on 01/20/2005 1:13:19 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: 68skylark; SampleMan; DuncanWaring; Nowhere Man

I believe that Nowhere Man has it right. Both our boomers and the old Soviet counterparts loitered under ice pack and then either broke through the ice with the body of the sub or moved to existing breaks in the pack ice. The North Polar ice is NOT continuous, so there are gaps and thin spots.


50 posted on 01/20/2005 1:19:55 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: knighthawk
The United States will pay for the disposal operation.

This just beats the hell out of me!

51 posted on 01/20/2005 2:13:19 PM PST by GingisK
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To: July 4th

I like the one that I used to have on a t-shirt. It showed a sub moving through the water with a mushroom cloud in the distance. The caption read "24 empty missile tubes, a mushroom cloud, and now its Miller Time." The other one I liked was the shot of a carrier through a periscope and the caption read "There are only two types of ships in the world, submarines and their targets." And I was an Aviation type!


52 posted on 01/20/2005 2:49:16 PM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Future Snake Eater; HairOfTheDog
"Give me a ping, Vasiliy; one ping only please."

That's *my* line. :-)

53 posted on 01/20/2005 2:54:53 PM PST by Ramius (Gregoirovich Nyet!)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; Valin; Iris7; alfa6; msdrby
I'm not seeing anything in the text or photo to indicate the real sub has/had the exotic propulsion system of the film sub in "The Hunt for Red October".

Thanks to such gullible generosity on the part of Foggy Bottom bureaucrats, the performer formerly known as the Soviet Union is able to devote its entire defense budget to developing new weapons systems.

Thus Nunn-Lugar funds new Topol-Ms, as money is of course fungible.

54 posted on 01/20/2005 6:27:11 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: smonk

the thing is a monster


Understatement of the day alert.


55 posted on 01/20/2005 9:37:56 PM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: knighthawk

BTTT


56 posted on 01/20/2005 9:39:56 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Colt .45
The other one I liked was the shot of a carrier through a periscope and the caption read "There are only two types of ships in the world, submarines and their targets." And I was an Aviation type!

You mean this one? Can be bought at submarinestore.com...

57 posted on 01/21/2005 7:41:44 PM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Colt .45
The other one I liked was the shot of a carrier through a periscope and the caption read "There are only two types of ships in the world, submarines and their targets." And I was an Aviation type!

You mean this one? Can be bought at submarinestore.com...

58 posted on 01/21/2005 7:42:15 PM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Severa

Oops. double post. Sorry *sheepish grin*


59 posted on 01/21/2005 7:42:34 PM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: vvpete
The 3 Russian subs in the us are all attractions as are the almost 2 dozen US subs on display through out the country.

The Foxtrot Class in Long Beach was previously leased from the Russian to the city of Sidney Australia and was there for about 5 years. When the lease was up the Russians didn't want it back. A buyer from CA purchased it and brought it to the US on a heavy lift ship. The Foxtrot in Seattle is a sister ship to that one. The other is a Juliet class in Providence, RI.

I have examined the two Foxtrots and tell you I would NEVER dive on one. They are an example of what you can get away with. Even the just post WW II sub I sailed on was superior to these and they were built decades later. I would love see one of their Nucs having sailed one of our Fast Attack boats as well but I don't hold out much hope for ever getting to do that. As to the Project 941 boats, there was only ever 6 built and now half the fleet is being scrapped. I'd pay for that. Our next target is China, they are starting to feel to big for their britches. They never liked the fact they had their clocks cleaned almost everything in Korea by much smaller forces. Now they are starting to snoop around our sub bases at Guam. Foxtrot
60 posted on 01/22/2005 11:38:55 PM PST by foxtrot641
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