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Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi: Stakes are high in mission to bring democracy to Iran
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 22/01/2005 | Sarah Sands

Posted on 01/22/2005 2:03:08 AM PST by F14 Pilot

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To: F14 Pilot

True...and now they are being killed by those who don't want voting to take place.

They are taking a real hit..

I much prefer internal change over tyrannical governments..but name one which was bloodless...

Our swearing in of a new President in the US with bitter losers on one side still goes on without mass uprising and bloodshed after 200 years of changing the President by voting.We allow the dissenters to protest, vent and fume.
Our Bill of Rughts and laws assure us of that. The losers have another chance in 4 years.


61 posted on 01/22/2005 4:24:55 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: F14 Pilot

The United States President Carter is the reason for the whole miseries happened to my country...
He is American, isn't he?


62 posted on 01/22/2005 4:26:02 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar

Agreed. That's his legacy.


63 posted on 01/22/2005 4:27:33 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: MEG33

True and I am not saying that we shouldn't expect even one drop of blood to finish the job and free Iran. But I hoped we don't see bloodshed there!


64 posted on 01/22/2005 4:28:55 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Khashayar

He was a pathetic leader but it would seem the Iranian people revolted and installed an Islamic theocracy..I can't even blame Carter for that one.


65 posted on 01/22/2005 4:29:12 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Khashayar
I Love this flag and I'll die for it!

Well, that's the right attitude, at least.

However, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating" ...

66 posted on 01/22/2005 4:30:52 AM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: MEG33

He and another A$$ Ho.. named khomeni are the major reasons for every misery happened to Iran.
They are responsible for 9/11.
They are responsible for me living in a dictatorship.
They are both responsible for the hatred toward the US throughout the world.

They are Ba$^ar% ;-)


67 posted on 01/22/2005 4:32:58 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: pillbox_girl

I already told you what to do, You better Read # 356


68 posted on 01/22/2005 4:34:22 AM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar; All
He is American, isn't he?

A fact, and one which causes many of us a great deal of sorrow. Thanks to all for a pretty spirited discussion that did not deteriorate as they sometimes do. Many eyes are on Iran and I have hope for the Iranian people.

69 posted on 01/22/2005 4:35:56 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: F14 Pilot

I hope for peace on earth, freedom for all people and that no person is brutalized or oppressed..I hope for liberty and justice for all.. I hope all children get an education and never feels hunger..I hope...but I am also realistic.


70 posted on 01/22/2005 4:37:05 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33

The Mullahs will also be gone sooner or later


71 posted on 01/22/2005 4:38:19 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Sooner if they keep pursuing nukes.


72 posted on 01/22/2005 4:43:01 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Remember the majority of Iranians wanted Khomeni...It isn't the just the leader..it's the form of government that makes a difference..It should be a government which protects the lives and rights of minority and majority.


73 posted on 01/22/2005 4:48:18 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Khashayar
The United States President Carter is the reason for the whole miseries happened to my country...

Only partly.

You could also blame Eisenhower. He was the President in 1953 during the CIA backed coup that put the Shah in power. The 1979 Islamic Revolution was a response to the regime of the Shah.

Going further back, you could blame the British, who forced the shah Reza Khan to abdicate in 1941 in order to sieze Iran's oil and (ostensibly) keep it safe from the Germans. British control of the oil led Premier Mussadegh to eventually sieze power, causing the U.S. to back the Shah in the 1953 coup.

Or you could blame the Soviets. They were instrumental in putting Reza Khan on the throne in 1921, and instigated the spltting off of Azerbaijan in 1945.

The trail goes back and back. Ultimately, though it always return back to the Iranian people. Coup after coup, they either by action or inaction brought about the current Iranian state. Case in point: it wasn't just clerics who threw out the Shah in 1979.

74 posted on 01/22/2005 4:52:02 AM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: MEG33

Khomeini hijacked/stole the form of government.


75 posted on 01/22/2005 4:53:18 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Khashayar
The United States President Carter is the reason for the whole miseries happened to my country...

He was responsible for a lot of misery here in the United States also.

76 posted on 01/22/2005 4:55:23 AM PST by reg45
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To: Khashayar
I already told you what to do, You better Read # 356

In case you haven't already noticed, I am a free person (unlike some people here with chains in their heads). Therefore, you can't tell me to do anything.

So what are you going to do about it? Unless it's more than you are already doing to free Iran, I don't have anything to worry about. And even then, I'm hardly quaking in my slippers.

77 posted on 01/22/2005 4:55:35 AM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: F14 Pilot

He couldn't have done it alone.


78 posted on 01/22/2005 4:56:49 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33
"Remember the majority of Iranians wanted Khomeni..."

That is absolutely inaccurate.
It was a vocal minority who wanted him.Unfortunately, a lot (if not most) Americans have been sold that idea by the media. It is catagorically untrue.
79 posted on 01/22/2005 4:58:53 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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