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Survey Finds Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant
Reuters ^ | 01/22/05 | Michael Conlon

Posted on 01/22/2005 7:07:27 PM PST by nypokerface

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Church-going Americans have grown increasingly intolerant in the past four years of politicians making compromises on such hot issues as abortion and gay rights, according to a survey released on Saturday.

At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others -- even at the risk of offending someone.

The trends could indicate that religion has become "more prominent in American discourse ... more salient," according to Ruth Wooden, president of Public Agenda, a nonpartisan research organization which released the survey.

It could also indicate "more polarized political thinking. There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today," she said in an interview. "It could be that more religious voices feel under siege, pinned against the wall by cultural developments. They may feel more emboldened as a result."

The November U.S. election saw voters in a number of states back gay marriage bans, and President Bush won re-election with heavy support from fellow religious conservatives.

The findings came from a telephone survey of 1,507 adults made in 2000 and a second similar survey of 1,004 adults done during the summer of 2004 that tracked the same issues. It had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Those surveyed were nearly all Christians, not by design but because the sample reflected the makeup of the population, the group said. A 2002 Pew Research Council survey found that 82 percent of the U.S. populace considered itself to be Christian, while 10 percent identified with no religious group.

On the question of whether elected officials should set their convictions aside to get results in government, 84 percent agreed in 2000. However, four years later that had dropped to 74 percent. There was a sharper decline on the same question among weekly church-goers from 82 percent in the first survey to 63 percent in the second.

About 40 percent of Americans claim to be weekly church-goers, according to Corwin Smidt, director of the Henry Institute for the Study of Christianity and Politics at Calvin College in Michigan. Some surveys have placed the figure at 25 percent.

In the survey, 32 percent of those who attended church once a week said they were willing to compromise on abortion issues -- a 19-point drop in four years. Among the same group the question of compromising beliefs on gay rights was acceptable to only 39 percent, down 18 points from 2000.

The poll also found that 37 percent overall felt that deeply religious people should be careful not to offend anyone when they "spread the word of God," a decline from 46 percent four years earlier.

The number of those who felt that committed faithful should spread the word "whenever they can" rose to 41 percent, up 6 points.

On another issue, the survey found little change in opinion on whether the U.S. political system can handle greater interaction between religion and politics. Asked if there was a threat if religious leaders and groups got a lot more involved in politics, 63 percent in 2000 and 61 percent in 2004 said the system could "easily handle" it. But the remainder continue to believe the system would be threatened.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christians; tolerance
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Typical Reuters title.
1 posted on 01/22/2005 7:07:28 PM PST by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

Reuters...


2 posted on 01/22/2005 7:09:28 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: nypokerface

Less tolerant of what? Are leftists tolerant of Christians and their views?

And do leftists never try to push their beliefs on others?


3 posted on 01/22/2005 7:09:58 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nypokerface

Good. The Christophobes at Reuters still don't get it.


4 posted on 01/22/2005 7:10:05 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: nypokerface

They talk about gay rights, but its really about desired gay privileges.


5 posted on 01/22/2005 7:10:57 PM PST by dr huer
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To: nypokerface
In real life, getting rid of Reuters would be as easy as closing window(computeraly speaking).
6 posted on 01/22/2005 7:11:57 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nypokerface
Church-going Americans have grown increasingly intolerant in the past four years of politicians making compromises on such hot issues as abortion and gay rights

The sky is blue. News at 11:00.

7 posted on 01/22/2005 7:13:07 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: chudogg
There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today," she said in an interview. "It could be that more religious voices feel under siege, pinned against the wall by cultural developments. They may feel more emboldened as a result."

It could also be that the faithful are making more of a distinction between truly showing mercy when appropriate and being wusses. The wuss attitude wasn't working well.

8 posted on 01/22/2005 7:13:31 PM PST by formercalifornian (Daschle b-gone!)
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To: nypokerface
It could also indicate "more polarized political thinking. There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today," she said in an interview.
Why is it that when the right disagrees it's called polarized thinking, but when the left dose it is dubbed progressive etc..
9 posted on 01/22/2005 7:14:05 PM PST by chaos_5
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To: nypokerface
Survey Finds Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant Have Values.
10 posted on 01/22/2005 7:14:12 PM PST by comebacknewt
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To: nypokerface

the title alone constitutes an editorial IMO


11 posted on 01/22/2005 7:14:49 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: nypokerface
In a related poll, the Stone Age Press is 100% Intolerent of Christian Beliefs! How can a Press report on a people they know nothing about??

Pray for W and Our Troops

12 posted on 01/22/2005 7:16:14 PM PST by bray (The Rather-hate Scandal was to support Fraudulant 911)
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To: nypokerface

I guess Reuters isn't even attempting to hide its bias anymore.


13 posted on 01/22/2005 7:16:47 PM PST by sassbox
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To: nypokerface

Maybe one day we will be as tolerant as Michael Moore and Barbara Streisand.


14 posted on 01/22/2005 7:17:23 PM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: nypokerface
Tolerant=weak willed people pleasing

Christian=the eternal view trumps the temporal view

15 posted on 01/22/2005 7:20:25 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: nypokerface

Less tolerant of evil? Very true!


16 posted on 01/22/2005 7:21:52 PM PST by steve86
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To: nypokerface

So let me understand this -- if I express a belief and someone reacts by calling me bigot, facist etc., I'm the one being intolerant?


17 posted on 01/22/2005 7:23:12 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: nypokerface

Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions


18 posted on 01/22/2005 7:23:42 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: nypokerface

Can somebody show me where in the Bible we are instructed to be "tolerant"? If it's there, I haven't found it. I hear plenty about it as some kind of "Secular Commandment", but it doesn't seem to be among God's.


19 posted on 01/22/2005 7:23:54 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: nypokerface

Didn't read the article, but if church goers are getting less tolerant of those things, it's clearly because the Left is (1) shoving those things down their throats, and (2) engaged in a very open attack on Christianity.

Beyond that, why not have a poll on the tolerance of the Left, which is pretty much non existant, by definition.


20 posted on 01/22/2005 7:24:40 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: nypokerface

Good. Let us dare to be intolerant of that which is wrong, as we should be, as is the right and responsibility of good men everywhere.


21 posted on 01/22/2005 7:25:20 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
How about this instead?

Let every American, every lover of liberty, every well-wisher to his posterity, swear by the blood of the Revolution never to violate in the least particular the laws of the country, and never to tolerate their violation by others.” ~ Abraham Lincoln Speech, January 27, 1837.

22 posted on 01/22/2005 7:27:03 PM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: nypokerface
I believe that the first Reuters' draft of this article was "...Evil Church-Going Americans..."

Geez, Reuters would be totally worthless if their "reporters" weren't providing the Israelis with Hamas targeting information.

23 posted on 01/22/2005 7:27:16 PM PST by Tacis (Democrats! - When You Need America Blamed Or A Pool Peed In!!)
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To: nypokerface
Public Agenda, a nonpartisan research organization

Ruth Wooden mentioned in the article isn't exactly Non-Partisan.

Open Secrets on Ruth Wooden

According to This Site, one of the founders of Public Agenda is Daniel Yankelovich, who is also been pretty busy donating to Democratic campaigns such as John Kerry.

Open secrets on Daniel Yankelovich.

The other founder is Cyrus Vance, who i couldnt find on Open Secrets but he was Secretary of State under Jimmy Carter.

Is it too much to ask to identify a liberal organization as LIBERAL???

25 posted on 01/22/2005 7:29:44 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: chaos_5
It could also indicate "more polarized political thinking. There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today," she said in an interview.

Kettle>>Black>>Pot

Pleez!Can we Talk?

26 posted on 01/22/2005 7:31:04 PM PST by Calusa (For want of a 'Compelling Narrative' the election was lost, quoth Neil Gabler.)
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To: nypokerface

"The findings came from a telephone survey of 1,507 adults made in 2000 and a second similar survey of 1,004 adults done during the summer of 2004 that tracked the same issues. It had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points."

Calling all statisticians:

How does a survey of 1,507 in 2000 and then 1,004 in 2004 square as equal surveys? The 2004 survey polls 33% less people than the 2000 poll.

(In)quiring minds need to know.


27 posted on 01/22/2005 7:31:39 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: nypokerface
Reuter's proves its own intolerance with that headline.

"It could be that more religious voices feel under siege, pinned against the wall by cultural developments. They may feel more emboldened as a result."

Paraphase- Christians are being persecuted by pop, political and judicial pressure. In historical fashion, when persecution strikes Faith deepens. We Hold ground, martial our resources, strengthen our Faith, and prepare to counter the oppressors. In some countries this literally means lives are lost to stand for the gospel. In our country it means we risk mockery and ridicule. It means we elect leaders respectful of our rights. It means we defend the right to worship as we please even in the public arena. It means we defend the Pledge, defend the Ten Commandments, Defend Christmas, Defend the Presidential Oath's inclusion of God. It means we deny the right of judges to determine whether abortion or Homosexual marriage are allowed. That is a right for the people to decide, not the unelected robed minority.

The intolerance of the Left is directly responsible for the re-engagement of Christians in society.

28 posted on 01/22/2005 7:31:57 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: nypokerface
This is what I have been saying on several posts including the one about the catholic arch bishop's remarks in Canada to try to limit gays in canada

Atheists and humanists have chosen abortion and homosexuality as their poster child -- precisely because they are the two most anti-God anti Christian issues they could find. And their unbending stance on these two issues is a thousand times more adamant that the beleivers they seek to remove from all aspects of society with these two issues.

The Goal is like what was created in Canada this past summer with a single pro gay pro abortion anti-hate piece of legislation they were able to make the bible into hate literature and make the expousing of Christianity a crime. in a short time they will begin enforcement and adding teeth to the law and then we will see beleivers de-citizenized (Kewl word I just made it up) and punitively stripped of holdings and possessions for their crims against humanity of beleiving God's word and daring to confess his words in public.

hate legislation trumps freedom of speech. hate legislation trumps freedom of the press, hate legislation will trump the power of people to run fo office and vote. (If you douby that just watch ted kennedy and Company in a confirm and consent hearing vio;ate candidates freedom of speech and press with anything they have published.)

We will see in canada in the not so distant future a campaign to remove any people with christian sentiments from being able to be elected -- wait on it -- it will come.

29 posted on 01/22/2005 7:32:29 PM PST by Rocketman
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To: escapefromboston

"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions"

If one sits for everything one stands for nothing.



30 posted on 01/22/2005 7:35:05 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: nypokerface

31 posted on 01/22/2005 7:35:07 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: Cicero

Less tolerant of what

Got that right, and my hope at least is...........They ain't see NOTHING yet!!!


33 posted on 01/22/2005 7:38:44 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: ZellsBells

What does this title mean? It makes me think of racially or religiously intolerant. Once I read the first part, it was obvious this article was very different than what the title suggests. That is a flagrant display of their lack of any objectivity.


34 posted on 01/22/2005 7:39:11 PM PST by polyester~monkey (4 Senate seats, 4 House Seats, and 52% of the popular vote: AMERICA HAS SPOKEN)
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To: ZellsBells

When communism took over in Russia, the persecution of the church began in the press. It will be no different here.


35 posted on 01/22/2005 7:39:31 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Calusa
It could also indicate "more polarized political thinking. There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today," she said in an interview.

Sure there are. The left is talking all about the Christian/Right compromising its principles all the time. We're just tired of it and not gonna take it anymore.

37 posted on 01/22/2005 7:40:20 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: Cicero

That's different. The left are smart and "enlightened" and Christians are just stupid, backwards, biblethumping hicks. </disgusted sarcasm>

Remember, the motto of the left is "intolerance shall not be tolerated".


38 posted on 01/22/2005 7:42:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: nypokerface
Intolerant my butt! Rueters needs to go insult someone else. Their propaganda is what is offensive.
39 posted on 01/22/2005 7:43:36 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Dean For DNC Chair, Gore For The Nomination!)
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To: Calusa

There do not seem to be very many voices arguing for compromise today,"

There is no compromise with these people!! And we aren't the ones who need to, we tried that, they pushed it way too far. They HAD tolerance for years, it wasn't enough.

We will not compromise on Gods word, it isn't our place to do so!!


40 posted on 01/22/2005 7:45:47 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: nypokerface
At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others -- even at the risk of offending someone.

And we all know how easily the Left gets offended when Conservatives don't accept their beliefs and ideology.

42 posted on 01/22/2005 7:46:32 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
I don't know about he rest of you Freeps out there, but 911 taught me a very good lesson on what's important in my life and what I have to fight for.

I won't let the immoral left get away with any of the things that I let them get away with on 910. One of the things it brought to the fore is that there are TRULY mad people out there who want us DEAD. Worse than that, they want AMERICA dead!

Next to that, gay rights sorta REALLY pales in comparison. In fact, gay rights for 2% of the population, don't even register on my radar screen any more which is why I'll draw the line at it and fight to the death before I'll surrender any more of my country to it.

We have bigger fish to fry and this country knows that now. Marriage is important, that's why it went down in flames like it did. Abortion is going to go down in flames as well. Gun control ditto. It's no longer fashionable to hate the military, police or firemen.

I'm not a super religious type, but I do my best to be a moral individual and live my life according to the 10 Commandments, the Golden Rule, right vs wrong and good vs evil.

We haven't become intolerant. We've become more moral.

Godspeed

43 posted on 01/22/2005 7:53:17 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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To: nypokerface

"...Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant."

Oh.

You mean that people who actually believe in something actually have to pay homage to jackasses that can't discern their @sses from a hole in the ground.

Well, isn't that special.


44 posted on 01/22/2005 7:57:56 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Let's arm all the "patriotic" Democrats and field a penal battalion...)
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To: nypokerface

>>Survey Finds Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant>>

Well, DUH. The Bible says nothing about being tolerant of sin. Only tolerant of eachother (believers, not everyone).


45 posted on 01/22/2005 7:59:40 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: America's Resolve
I won't let the immoral left get away with any of the things that I let them get away with on 910. One of the things it brought to the fore is that there are TRULY mad people out there who want us DEAD. Worse than that, they want AMERICA dead!

Isn't it ironic that is the immorality of the left with their abortions and freakshow gay parades in San Francisco and pushing homosexual marriage and porn in schools is what Islam thinks about when they hate America?

46 posted on 01/22/2005 8:01:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: nypokerface

Translation: People who believe in God have convictions.


47 posted on 01/22/2005 8:04:15 PM PST by Dan Middleton (Car 185 is out of service. RIP Officer Brian Hurst, CPD (USMC, Ret.))
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To: nypokerface
At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others -- even at the risk of offending someone.

You don't have to be a church goer to say you've had more than enough of the Perverts.

48 posted on 01/22/2005 8:04:59 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. )
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To: Blood of Tyrants
It sure is. It's even more ironic when one considers that if islam ever got the upper hand in this country, the lefties would be the first ones to be beheaded.

Truly an amazing paradox ;)

50 posted on 01/22/2005 8:06:10 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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