What a waste for a bunch of ungrateful, supercilious, pompous fools.
Thanks for the post.
Something about an informed society is important to government and the well being of the populace seems to come to mind....
I wonder about the authenticity of this article. As an aviator I rarely went to breakfast and if I did it was because I had the duty and I would be eating alone. (humor)
Throw their royal a$$es overbroad and bring our ships, men and all out equipment home!!!
Am I the only one who read that, and said "damn?"
Yes, we do it because it is the right thing to do.
There is much in this article that has been confirmed by even the MSM, so I think it is authentic. It is frustrating to do good things with no positive feedback, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do them anyway.
My boss's Sister just retired from the Lincoln. I still wear the ballcap with her logo.
This makes me sick to my stomach.
some of whom are wearing Osama bin Ladin T-shirts
New Rule: "No pants, no shirts allowed in mess hall"
Unbelievable.
At least the UN types were relegated to the wardroom.I don't mind the Navy feeding them as long as they stay outta the Chief's Mess!
These are the same pukes who burned-down the ROTC Building at UMass in 1970. Man, how I wish they'd finally die of old age and impacted bile.
From:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/diplomad/110627783512159197/
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The only problem I had with the "Ed Stanton" letter is that it is posted on Hackworth's SFTT (Soldiers For the Truth) website. Which makes me suspicious of it, though the observations do correlate. (I know too much about Hackworth ever to trust him.)
I'm a ret. SpecOps officer with just under 28 years service, enlisted and officer.
BTW, the reason the ship's "brass" (a phrase that makes me suspicious of hackworth) might have put up with the tourists is because they had been ordered to.
Bad order, though.
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_Jim
From:
http://www.rontini.com/cgi-bin/eboard40/index2.cgi?frames=no&board=main&mode=Current&threads=Collapse&message=25136&index=
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I challange the veracity of this column. No O-ganger in the USN would ever get away with writing such dribble.
I appreciate the crux of his arguement... that VIP's waste more money and time touring disaster areas that could be better directed toward relief efforts..... but I think it is the same as when our President tours a site in this country, with all his entourage of Secret Service, etc. However, it seems that this is a necessary evil for such high level relief efforts.
The part about them not wanting to sleep in-country under primitive conditions reminds me of when a local Minister and his wife went on a "mission" trip to Africa. I forgot which country, but they ended up in a really outback location at a small Christian church. The congregation, which didn't have a pot to p** in, nor a window to throw it out of, took up a collection and gave it to the minister after the service, who took it and drove to the nearest city and got a hotel room with air conditioning and stayed the nite. I have always had a problem with how some people manage "relief" or "mission efforts. In my mind you should be no better off than those you are assisting. To do otherwise, you are taking away from food or shelter that would be available to them.
As far as him being at sea for an extended period of time and getting no training value from it, this guy better grow up.... US military missions are not all killing bad guys, sometimes it is saving good guys.
I hope this blog is not well published, it is a black eye on our country's image.
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"Today we have pilots who have now been
over 25 days without a trap due to being
unable to use Indonesian airspace to train"
He tripped up here, I think. They didn't GET THERE until a week after, or so, and this letter was dated the 20th ... that would make what - more like 20 days once they received their orders to steam?
Methinks the author didn't know and didn't follow up on getting his dates right.
-Eric
I'm not there, so I have no firsthand information at all,
but in this article Lt. Cmdr. Jeffrey Vorce says that the
"No Relief in Sight for the Lincoln" article is inaccurate:
Lt. Cmdr. Jeffrey Vorce:
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=Defensewatch%20Special%205.db&command=viewone&op=t&id=3&rnd=318.94677583608233
"Ed Stanton" (pen name)'s article was also on sftt.org:
http://www.sftt.org/cgi-bin/csNews/csNews.cgi?database=DefenseWatch%202005%2edb&command=viewone&id=34
-Dave
>> Now do all you libs feel better about the USA
I really don't know if it's fair blaming the libs for this... The Senate, Congress, Presidency, and certainly the Pentagon are all firmly in Republican hands.
I imagine it was George Bush who ordered the Linoln to Indonesian waters.
Unless, of course, you are insinuating that our president is a Lib?