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A Celebrity Killer Is Freed (Wilbert Rideau)
Modesto Bee ^ | 1/22/05 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 01/23/2005 12:12:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

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To: trumandogz
Things would have been different for OJ, had one black been replaced on his jury.

Sad but true!

61 posted on 01/23/2005 3:29:01 PM PST by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: Chapita
Things would have been different for OJ, had one black been replaced on his jury.

Exactly. The OJ Jury provided the most visible jury nullification action in US history. But we must ask why the OJ Jury let him walk?

Was it because they were racist, uneducated or that the prosecution presented the case poorly?

I would think each of the above factors contributed to the OJ verdict but did the OJ jury also think of the Rodney King verdict (which was a sound verdict) or recall cases of blacks being killed by whites in the South in the 1960's without being convicted?

62 posted on 01/23/2005 4:09:05 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
My family is from about 15 miles from where Emmett Till was found back in '55. Though talk was guarded, white attitudes were not even close to monolithic! Your mouth could get you killed in those days!

Color didn't matter!

63 posted on 01/23/2005 5:18:58 PM PST by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: Chapita
My mom and dad were school teachers in the New Orleans area in the 1950's and 60's. In 1964 Dad was quoted in the paper saying that schools should be integrated and he lost his job.
64 posted on 01/23/2005 5:37:35 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; TexasCowboy; humblegunner; Eaker; cyborg; Brad's Gramma; onyx; ...

Well maybe the victims have some relatives still alive and street justice will prevail over PC dumbasses in todays courts.

Doom on this trash and that garbage that let him back on the streets.


65 posted on 01/23/2005 5:41:45 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Damn, but this has made me mad.
I shall pray that this murderer's life on the outside is SHORT.

I suppose Hollywood will seek to enshrine him in a 'doctoredmentary.'


66 posted on 01/23/2005 5:51:49 PM PST by onyx
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To: trumandogz
Apparently the Judges on the 5th did not believe that he got a fair trial.

A grotesque perversion of justice to let a man go free after he has committed such a grusome crime. It doesn't matter if the judge was appointed by Reagan or Clinton, If we don't have justice we won't have civilization. People will take matters into their own hands. You are one sad, sad excuse for a human to defend this.

67 posted on 01/23/2005 9:09:40 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Willie Rideau is a Poster Child For Liberalism. Every excuse you can think of has been made for him. I'm sure they'll figure out how to blame his incaceration on President Bush.


68 posted on 01/23/2005 9:15:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: cyborg
I don't know what technicality got him off but he was clearly guilty. If a clearly guilty man goes free then we do not have justice. If we do not have justice then we have anarchy, the Klan and others like them will rise again. It will be like Beirut. Like every country in Africa.
69 posted on 01/23/2005 9:16:30 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

You're overreacting. The Klan rising again? He didn't go free. He spent forty years in prison already. It was only a matter of time before he was going to be let out of prison. One clearly guilty man getting a downgraded sentence doesn't mean the whole justice system is wrong.


70 posted on 01/23/2005 9:19:55 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: trumandogz
The facts of the case are that if the state had at least one member of the Grand Jury that was black the killer would still be at Angola. ... and we must expect the state to be more just than any murdering scum.

Only because a few judges went insane and bowed to politically correct nonsense. They decided to become less than murdering scum. Do you feel you must also join the insanity?

71 posted on 01/23/2005 9:25:33 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: cyborg
He spent forty years in prison already. It was only a matter of time before he was going to be let out of prison. One clearly guilty man getting a downgraded sentence doesn't mean the whole justice system is wrong.

The judges didn't say, "okay you can go free if you had an all-white jury and you served forty years", they said any trial of a black with an all-white jury is invalid. How many more will go free because of this decision? The court has declared that the opinion of a jury can be invalidated based on their skin color. I say the appelate court over-reacted.

72 posted on 01/23/2005 9:34:43 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

I don't know how many more people will go free. I don't think many will IMHO. I'm not losing my faith in the justice system because Rideau got set free early.


73 posted on 01/23/2005 9:38:13 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: trumandogz
But we must ask why the OJ Jury let him walk?

I saw interviews with the O.J. jury. Some of them expressed the opinion that they would not have felt safe convicting O.J. If a jury is afraid to convict because they are afraid of retaliation, then no one is safe, black or white.

74 posted on 01/23/2005 9:41:48 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

That sounds like the juries in mob cases.


75 posted on 01/23/2005 9:42:38 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: trumandogz

yeah, I think the killer should be paroled to your house.


76 posted on 01/23/2005 10:00:37 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: cyborg
That sounds like the juries in mob cases.

Yes, exactly. Like in Sicily. Like in some places in New York city. Like in some countries in Africa. It can happen here. We can become Zimbabwe.

The next step is to invalidate convictions of criminals, not because of an all-white jury, but because the jury didn't have the correct fraction of whites or blacks.

This is about more than criminal justice and violent crime. It is about judges who cowardly bow to political winds. When that happens we will have much bigger problems than allowing a few murderers to go free.

Freedom, justice and democracy are fragile things. They can be destroyed a lot faster than they are created. They are destroyed by greedy factions, mob intimidation or by public opinion driven by corrupt agendas.

77 posted on 01/23/2005 10:05:45 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

Okay fair enough. I just try to be optimistic about things. That's why it's important to vote for the right people.


78 posted on 01/23/2005 10:07:30 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: trumandogz

Why should one evil act of the state justify a greater evil? Why does the disenfranchising of blacks justify the freeing of a criminal who may go off and kill other blacks? Why should the public suffer just because the state made a mistake? That makes no sense.


79 posted on 01/23/2005 10:14:39 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: cyborg
Okay fair enough. I just try to be optimistic about things. That's why it's important to vote for the right people.

Yes, I agree. And so does Cathy Buckle in Zimbabwe, bravely checking to see if her voter registration is still valid. But sometimes that isn't enough. If the right people have fled, sometimes there isn't anything you can really do. If we become surrounded by thugs, their cohorts in government and people who allow themselves to be intimidated by them there isn't much you can do.

I think that's why the founders wrote the 2nd amendment. It's the lifeboat for freedom. It's the final backup system if everything else fails.

80 posted on 01/23/2005 10:29:09 PM PST by Dan Evans
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