Evidence May Back Human Sacrifice Claims

My Way News ^ | 1/22/05 | MARK STEVENSON/AP

[SunkenCiv]

thanks blam. :'D

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326884/posts
This thread has been pulled.
Pulled on 01/23/2005 4:03:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:
duplicate http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326847/posts

[Pharmboy]

Loved that book, although it became a bit mind-numbing after a few hundred pages.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Victims had their hearts cut out or were decapitated, shot full of arrows, clawed, sliced to death, stoned, crushed, skinned, buried alive or tossed from the tops of temples.

I think they meant to type "burned alive". But hey! We have to cut their supposed descendents some slack - they've toned it way down since Cortez's day. Now the only torture they inflict (warbling paeans to drug lords cranked at max volume, cerveza-shards somehow attracted to my car tires, spreading corruption through every aspect of our society) shows they're really trying to assimilate and become good, law-abiding Americans. It is me who should learn to speak Spanish and accept their rich contributions to our culture.

If I appease these people and help deconstruct our laws and culture for their advancement these neo-Aztecs might sacrifice me last...

Seriously, I overhear the term "Aztlan" thrown around a lot when overhearing their conversations. Too many believe in this mythos.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Man Corn: Cannibalism and Violence in the Prehistoric American Southwest
by Christy G. Turner II, Jacqueline Turner


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/087480566X/ref=pd_sim_b_6/103-2725663-9967824?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance

The argument is over.
Check it out.

[brytlea]

Well, perhaps if they were captives, but the article seemed to indicate they were treated well before sacrifice?
I don't remember talking about that stuff in Anthro in college. Maybe I blocked it out!
sundero

[Fedora]

There's pretty unequivocal evidence of human sacrifice at Chichen Itza, IMO:

Chichen-Itza

The sacred city of the Itza, called Chichen-Itza (chee-chehn eet-sah) in Maya, is located 75 miles east of Merida, the Capital of the State of Yucatan, Mexico. This archaeological site is rated among the most important of the Maya culture. . .The Cenote of Sacrifice was reserved for rituals involving human sacrifice involving the rain God. The victims were not only young women, but also children and elderly men and women.

[mamelukesabre]

G-d I'm glad I'm not in corporate america. I remember people exactly like you guys are describing.

Salesmen are sometimes like that too. I can't stand it. Back in college it seemed like the frat boys were like that too. And back in highschool it seemed like the drama club weirdos were like that.

[Pelham]

The movie The Black Robe is based on the diaries of a French priest who lived among Great Lakes Indians in the 1500s. Definitely not a PC version of history.

[HighlyOpinionated]

You wrote: Hmmmmmmmmm. I dunno. I think we can still spin this to make the Europeans look bad, but I'm gonna need another grant ...


What??? You're not blaming Bush??? What's wrong with YOU? Oh, I get it. You need another huge grant or is that 'hugh' grant (he was cannibalized in a cab) or is that Mr. Grant (Ohhhhhhh Rrroooobbb. Wrong show, right actress) before you can come to any 'preliminary conclusion.' A final conclusion will cost you another five million US dollars.

/sarcasm off/

[SunkenCiv]

in front of the largest of the pyramid / temples that stood in Tenochtitlan, running much of the length of the plaza, was a structure the Aztecs called "The Corncrib". It was stacked full of human skulls, fruits of the human sacrifice rituals. The Spanish cleared that out, and demolished various other structures. Some years back a double-sided sculpture of the Atzec idol Huitzilipochtli was discovered during some kind of excavation.

[GladesGuru]

The revisionists are going to love this./sarcasm off

Probably the revisionists will be conspicuously silent. As I remember, a "scientist" working for the Hopi said he wouldn't accept the evidence from the bones, that he would only accept direct evidence.

As the Toyota ad says, "You asked for it, You got it" and he got it - right in the literature.

Seems that the Hopi-employed scientist had irritated another scientist, non-Hopi employed, to the extent that he sampled a coprolite (scientific-ese for old fecal mass) and found human myoglobin.

As the non-Hopi employed scientist said, "mute evidence that someone had had a human meat meal".

Given that if remains of human muscle were in the feces, human meat must have been eaten.

Revise that, Liberals!

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Radix.

[Kenny Bunk]

Folks always forget that the Spaniards were able to conquer Mexico, (and Peru) with very few soldiers.

The reason? Easy! Thousands of warriors from the many oppressed tribes who were forced to deliver human sacrifices to the Inca and the Aztecs, JOINED the Spaniards to overthrow them.

Wouldn't you?

[SunkenCiv]

---

Man Corn: Cannibalism and Violence in the Prehistoric American Southwest by Christy G. Turner II and Jacqueline A. Turner

---

[escapefromboston]

Sounds interesting, what's the name of the book?

[escapefromboston]

Looks like my old high school notebook. Ya, I was a weird kid.

[NewRomeTacitus]

LOL. Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd are good examples of coprolites.

That's an excellent illustration of how refined many scientific testing techniques have become. If our ability to accept the results caught up...

[escapefromboston]

How dare you insult cannibals!?! You need to open your MIND! Imagine, a way to feed the poor and a way to control the Aztec population explosion! We need cannibals TODAY! We have too many people and not enough food, we need to write to our congresspeople and let them legalize human sacrifices! Who are you to say what religion is best! They are all EQUAL!!!

[Kenny Bunk]

Pingo

[dog breath]

I remember studying the Aztecs in anthropology classes decades ago and there was no doubt expressed about the human sacrifices. There continue to be excavations, like the one mentioned in the article, that confirm both Spanish and their own pictorial accounts. They were very efficient at this and according to there own records could sacrifice about one a minute. Blood was supposed to have sacred power and the sacrifices ensured the continuation of life as they knew it. I have never understood why people have such a sentimental view of Native American cultures. Even away from Meso America they were often brutal to captives, taking sport from torturing them to death. While there is much that is owed to Native Americans, foods, and even ideas that went into the shaping of our republic from the Iroquois, most were not the innocents they are portrayed. These were tough brutal men often engaged in never ending tribal warfare. The Meso Americans had a very advanced civilization but the gruesome reality of what they did is appalling by even Hitler's standards. Of course, in fairness, at the time of contact the Europeans were still killing hundreds of thousands of Europeans in public executions of heretics and witches.