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Hinn healing: The plot thickens
The Times of India ^ | MONDAY, JANUARY 24, 2005 11:10:25 PM | SMITHA RAO & HEMALI CHHAPIA

Posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:39 PM PST by Gengis Khan

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To: snarks_when_bored; A CA Guy

I find it interesting that the only people who whine and complain are those people who DON'T BELIEVE.

The secret is easy, Jesus said, "only believe". Since you don't .. you don't have to worry about being healed - you won't be. So what's the problem.


41 posted on 01/25/2005 12:46:22 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: A CA Guy

You assume the Crouchs are not frauds themselves. Your overall trust in them might be a bit misplaced. I am not going to say that all of their programming is unBiblical, because some of it is very Biblical; but much of it is not. And I would not be quick to disparrage any of their employees without knowing them as individuals.


42 posted on 01/25/2005 12:48:06 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: politicket

I believe the healings are in Christ's name, not Hinns.

There have been a long list of healers that I believe were also healing in the name of Christ and I do not believe that goes against scripture at all.


43 posted on 01/25/2005 12:49:13 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Gengis Khan
For those offended by television preachers and faith healers please allow me to apologize to you on behalf those of us who feel Mr. Hinn misrepresents Jesus and the Bible.

Both the Old and New Testament condemn soliciting money in connection with divine healing. If God chooses to heal someone it is a free gift. To ask for or receive money for a gift is an insult to God and His goodness.

God does not take bribes. He doesn't buy His friends. And we cannot buy His favor either. Everything already belongs to God. Preachers should not make Him into a cosmic beggar.
44 posted on 01/25/2005 12:49:19 AM PST by unlearner
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To: KneelBeforeZod; All

Never trust a man who doesn't trust his own hair.


45 posted on 01/25/2005 12:52:20 AM PST by shibumi (Every adult citizen should be permitted concealed carry.....of a tactical nuclear weapon)
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To: connectthedots

I don't know that all their programing has to even be religion. They can promote twinkies on a non-religious program and I don't think they would have broken a commandment.
I do think they consider real all the programing put forth as ministry though.


46 posted on 01/25/2005 12:52:53 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CyberAnt

If you heard me whining or complaining, you're hearing things. The tone in my voice was contempt, utter contempt.


47 posted on 01/25/2005 12:55:36 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: connectthedots

By the way, the Crouch's are not frauds. My own mother volunteered down in Tustin as one of the people who prayed with and for those that called in. She and much of her prayer community from church and others volunteered when it was close to nothing.
They are very real and sincere people despite how surreal it can all seem sometimes.


48 posted on 01/25/2005 12:57:30 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Poor thing!


49 posted on 01/25/2005 1:00:53 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: CyberAnt
Poor thing!

Unlike the thieving Preacher Hinn.

50 posted on 01/25/2005 1:03:01 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: unlearner

True they solicit money to pay the bills and grow the ministry as do all modern day preachers of all faiths. People have to pay for buildings, employees, travel, production, witnessing materials and other stuff.

Giving is requested and not required by force.


51 posted on 01/25/2005 1:04:32 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Where do you get that he is thieving from?


52 posted on 01/25/2005 1:05:21 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy



wow even Benny Hinn was passing the queer slam on poor ole Paul Crouch,,,,,,,,,



« « TODAY'S QUEER DAY NEWS » »


September 13, 2004
Paul Crouch gay sex scandal rocks Trinity Broadcast Network
Paul Crouch, the founder of the world's largest Christian broadcasting network, sought repeatedly to prevent a former male employee from going public with allegations of a sexual encounter between them eight years ago. Crouch, 70, president of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, reached a $425,000 settlement in 1998 with Enoch Lonnie Ford, the former worker, and Crouch later won a closed-door ruling when Ford tried to violate a provision of the settlement that barred him from discussing the alleged encounter. The claims could damage the Orange County-based Christian broadcasting empire Crouch and his wife began in 1973. The network, which depends heavily on donations, reaches millions of people around the world. San Mateo County Times

When Rick Jones, an ordained minister and former cop, heard his boss talking about another minister's gay sexual activity with an employee, he "got up and walked away," the Los Angeles Times reported on its front page yesterday. "I didn't want to hear gossip." But his boss was televangelist Benny Hinn, a staple on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and Hinn was talking about TBN founder and president Paul Crouch. And the Los Angeles Times has reported that it's no longer gossip—it's a tale of attempted extortion, litigation, and tragedy. We're admittedly fixated to a scandal that just might turn into the biggest thing since Jim and Tammy Bakker fell from grace


53 posted on 01/25/2005 1:07:36 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: politicket

...And thou shalt set up tents for the multitudes
and in them shine your brightest spotlights
and bring them singing and chanting up on stage
where thou shalt take credit for My work
that thy coffers may overflow with coin and currency
that ye might get a decent hairdo.

(Book of Showmanship; Ch 1, verses 4-9)


54 posted on 01/25/2005 1:08:29 AM PST by shibumi (Every adult citizen should be permitted concealed carry.....of a tactical nuclear weapon)
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To: A CA Guy
Where do you get that he is thieving from?

A reasonable question. Here's a place to start:

Benny Hinn: Healer or Hypnotist?

55 posted on 01/25/2005 1:09:13 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

So what came of it all and what was the truth?


56 posted on 01/25/2005 1:09:49 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

http://www.myfortress.org/PaulCrouch.html


57 posted on 01/25/2005 1:15:20 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Gengis Khan

Throughout history charlatans have cloaked themselves in religious garb.


58 posted on 01/25/2005 1:15:35 AM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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To: A CA Guy

he paid the guy off with hush money,, end of story and what was he doing up there at the cabin with the guy alone anyway?,, open one of your blinded eyes at least


59 posted on 01/25/2005 1:18:34 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: snarks_when_bored

Barry Karr owns that site and makes money from books by trying to debunk Christianity and is aligned with many atheist groups all over the net.

You expect an atheist to validate God through science these days do you?


60 posted on 01/25/2005 1:24:51 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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