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Keg IDs in the offing?
Keg IDs in the offing? ^
| Jan. 25, 2005
| JOSEPH THOMAS
Posted on 01/25/2005 11:33:55 AM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
When kegs are outlawed, only outlaws will have kegs.
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posted on
01/25/2005 2:09:03 PM PST
by
Still Thinking
(Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
To: mdhunter
For what it's worth I think the move is a good idea because it makes law enforcement easier. So will wrist tatoos.
Suppose a police officer arrives at a Frat house where an underage pledge has passed out and fallen down some steps. There's a keg there.
Well by all means blame the keg not the frat boy.
Banning instruments rather than acts indicate a belief that man is not worthy of his own free will.
42
posted on
01/25/2005 2:20:39 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: AdamSelene235
The article does not mention how the tag is attached. What if the tag is removed?
43
posted on
01/25/2005 2:23:37 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: R. Scott; mdhunter
The article does not mention how the tag is attached. What if the tag is removed? Sounds like prima facie evidence of conspiracy to transmit alcohol to kindergartners.
44
posted on
01/25/2005 2:27:24 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: mdhunter; AdamSelene235
Moreover, it impresses upon those that buy large quantities of alcohol that it's their responsibility to dole it out legally. Failure to do so should be punished. If the current system doesn't in all cases allow for that, then the system is broken. So if I go to the store and 'buy' the keg, Im responsible to be the bartender for the duration of that keg?
Again, how can the leos determine that the alcohol in someone body came from THAT keg?
So now I have to baby sit every person in the place due to the fact that if someone dies, Im liable if they drank what they got from ANY other soure? While Im keeping track of everybody, how will i guard the integrity of the keg?
Etc Etc ad nauseum...
45
posted on
01/25/2005 2:46:07 PM PST
by
Gilbo_3
(Patience is a virtue, but it aint one of mine !!!)
To: trebb
I think mostly this is for when the cops raid a kegger with underaged drinkers. They'll trace the keg back to the original buyer and ream him/her up the ying yang.
They've been doing this in California for a long time. I don't think it has really accomplished anything other than make you spend 5 extra minutes at the store filling out paperwork.
46
posted on
01/25/2005 2:46:30 PM PST
by
hattend
(Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
To: hattend
They've been doing this in California for a long time. That sounds like a wonderful reason not to do it here.
47
posted on
01/25/2005 2:50:06 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: R. Scott
Possesion of an untagged keg would (probably) be a felony. The selling establishment would (probably) be required by law to report you to the authorities under penalty of loss of their liquor license for failing to report the offense.
Like being cought with a firearm with no serial number.
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posted on
01/25/2005 2:53:14 PM PST
by
Calamari
(Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
To: AdamSelene235
It didn't accomplish anything in Cali, It won't accomplish anything there. It could have originated anywhere...it's just a worthless waste of YOUR time at the store.
Every state should have a part time legislature.
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posted on
01/25/2005 2:59:32 PM PST
by
hattend
(Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
To: AdamSelene235
50
posted on
01/25/2005 3:01:26 PM PST
by
Pylon
(R)
To: Pylon
Wish I'd thought of that...LOL
51
posted on
01/25/2005 3:20:25 PM PST
by
hattend
(Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail, Chimpus Khan!])
To: hattend
I'm surprised it got to 50 posts without it happening.
52
posted on
01/25/2005 3:23:07 PM PST
by
Pylon
(R)
To: AdamSelene235
Don't you just love prima facie evidence? It makes things so simple. No defense is possible.
53
posted on
01/25/2005 3:44:14 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Calamari
As long as the tag didn't "accidentally" come off.
54
posted on
01/25/2005 3:45:19 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Freebird Forever
ouch, that'd suck. How would someone explain
that one?
"Well, guys, you see I was drinking beer..."
"Sure, you were drinking beer... were Barbie and the tooth fairy there too? Your Killian's Irish Red was a little weak?"
55
posted on
01/25/2005 4:41:02 PM PST
by
infidel29
(America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
To: R. Scott
The file marks would be the tip off.
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posted on
01/25/2005 4:53:04 PM PST
by
Calamari
(Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
To: Calamari
Would there be a need to prove who removed it, or would the property owner automatically be guilty?
57
posted on
01/25/2005 5:12:41 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
Comment #58 Removed by Moderator
To: mdhunter
You write:
Want to talk about a national ID card, then do it, but stop with the straw men.
And then you write:
Is keeping a record of who bought a keg really so unwarranted? We still keep records of who checks out library books, right?
Physician, heal thyself.
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posted on
01/25/2005 7:52:43 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
To: mdhunter
The keg ID is simply a tool, it's the old-style sleeve in library books, a register of renters, as it were. It allows us to hold responsible the people in which the book, or keg, finds itself in care. It is the ultimate form of personal responsibility and, I'll say again, seems to me to be clearly in state's interest to legislate. If you have reason why you don't think so, please, share them. Because I have sinking suspicion that possessing an unregistered keg is going to become yet ANOTHER in mala prohibitum crime.
It fosters a "Mother May I" mentality unbecoming a free society.
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posted on
01/25/2005 7:58:44 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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