(President) Bush Wants to Spend More to Catch Illegals

AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/05 | Suzanne Gamboa - AP

[FBD]

I agree. Use troops until we have a secure 25 ft high border wall.
Based on the Israeli wall it would cost between 2 to 4 million dollars per mile for a border fence.

It would cost 8 billion to fence the entire border, and there are areas where it wouldn't have to be fenced, just patrolled.

[agitator]

It might cost a little more for the moat full of toxic waste, the minefield, and the automatic machineguns :)

[exhaustedmomma]

Problem with wall...

More on pesky tunneling:
Claim of terror plot unraveling; FBI says woman already held The caller said that "nuclear oxide" or "nuclear fiber" was going to be smuggled to the group through a tunnel system in Mexico into Southern California, officials said.

[exhaustedmomma]

In addition to paying for more staff, the money would go to apprehending fugitives and providing alternatives to detention for low-risk illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

READ: not on the FBI's Most Wanted (e.g., Serial Killer) List.

(*Just can't let this one go: Paying for more staff... besides the 210 additional BP agents (for both N & S borders.) Staff = ??? Case preparers... or... lawyers. :::snort::: )

[skip_intro]

'm having a hard time taking this President series anymore regarding the oath he took, once again.

Yup, it stuns my beeber, too.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, some of these would crop up. With a wall in place though, it would limit the tunnel options to cities since fleer tech could see people congregating near walls at night to start a tunnel.

For all the weeknesses of a wall, I still see them as a major plus. So does Israel.

[exhaustedmomma]

Israel for them a wall or for us a wall?

Do you know... are the tunnels mainly near cities? I was wondering because so much that I have read seems to have them connected to storm or drainage systems. Then, I thought that the really huge tunnel find was in the middle of the desert... like maybe devil's highway (or whatever the devil name is.) Tunnels are my biggest problem with the wall.

[DoughtyOne]

For them. As for the tunnels, I could be wrong, but I would think foot traffic would be a tip off in the middle of the desert.

In the city, you just burrow down beneath a floor and head north when you get down far enough. Nobody can see you.

[FBD]

Sure.
Of course a wall won't stop everyone.
But it will be a lot more difficult then just walking ...or driving across. Drug runners and criminals can walk or even *drive* across the border in Arizona.
4000 people do it every day, in Arizona alone.

The AZ/ Mexico border is chock full of trails and roads, like these here:
(Photos at www.desertinvasion.us/)

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"Looking south across the border, a mile or two west of Lukeville. All that protects the border is a barbed wire fence. Here the fence has been cut to form a typical vehicle entry for illegals and drug runners."

"Abandoned car; looking west along the border, a mile or two west of Lukeville. The vehicle barrier stops shortly past this point and has not been completed due to lack of funding (2004)."

You are looking across the border. Pretty secure, huh?

[Netizen]

Yeah right. Hope someone is keeping an eye on the other hand.

[Netizen]

So what is the difference between an 'undocumented worker' and an 'illegal immigrant?'

The one arrived here illegally and also has a job that they obtained illegally. The other is here illegally but doesn't have a job.

[Netizen]

In addition to paying for more staff, the money would go to apprehending fugitives and providing alternatives to detention for low-risk illegal immigrants awaiting deportation.

I wonder what this means.

Amnesty?

[DoughtyOne]

One more thing about a high cement wall, it's kindof tough for the Mexican police or military to shoot through it like they have been over the border.

[FBD]

that's a good point!

[exhaustedmomma]

Okay... another problem I see with the wall... we need something done now. How long will it take to build this wall? Being it's a government project and all. There has to be something ...

At the rate they are invading, by the time the wall gets built how many more will be here? (Not to mention they are flying in now... or at least we are finding out they are flying in now. AND what... slap on the wrist.)

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) plans to ask Congress to spend more to crack down on undocumented workers and arrest and deport illegal immigrants. But he wants to fund only a fraction of the new Border Patrol agents called for in a bill he signed last year.

Here we go again, the old bait and switch routine.

Bush must think the American people are too stupid to figure out what is going on, and are too lazy to do anything about it.

Oh, wait a minute - they are.

Never mind. Go back to sleep.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

Oh, that makes a lot of sense - the "xenophobes" really want more illegals to invade our country!

Silly.

The Powers That Be aren't going to crack down on illegals; they are going to make the illegals legal, and dare you to do anything about it.

But go on blaming "xenophobes" so you can feel good about yourself.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

What do you two have in common?

You mean, apart from them both being lying politicians?

[JohnBDay]

Why can't the John Birch Society be up front? Small font at the bottom of the page. And they say the federal government tries to be sneaky.

If the FTAA is to be defeated, there will have to be more opposition than pot-smoking hippies, union workers and tinfoil Birchers.

[FBD]

-Start with the areas that are the worst.

Precast concrete walls can be put up pretty darn fast.
All that needs to be poured on site are the footings.

It'll happen:

http://www.concretefence.com/pages/homelandsecurity.htm

check out this diagram of the Israeli Wall:
http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IsraelWall.gif