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Pete Baker is a rare breed in Eugene.
1 posted on 01/25/2005 11:14:01 PM PST by bellevuesbest
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2 posted on 01/25/2005 11:16:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: bellevuesbest
Oregon law prohibits personal messages on state-owned vehicles, regardless of the context.

Well, there you have it. Patriotic, political, whatever, it's a personal message. As long as the law isn't being selectively enforced, the magnet has to go. This is a non-story.

3 posted on 01/25/2005 11:51:41 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: bellevuesbest
Oregon law prohibits personal messages on state-owned vehicles, regardless of the context.

Sounds pretty cut and dried to me.

4 posted on 01/25/2005 11:56:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: bellevuesbest
University President Dave Frohnmayer said today that Baker will face no disciplinary action, and added that he was upset that the incident has led people to question the patriotism of the university. "The excuse that some people take in events like this to question the patriotism of other Americans is frankly below the belt," he said.

The prez. did not have much of a choice. As the article states, it is against Oregon law to have sucg messages on state-owned vehicles.

5 posted on 01/26/2005 12:02:40 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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"The excuse that some people take in events like this to question the patriotism of other Americans is frankly below the belt," he said

Well, how else should it be taken? If you don't support our troops, you sure as hell aren't patriotic...

6 posted on 01/26/2005 12:22:01 AM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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To: bellevuesbest

Frohnmayer used to be Oregon's Att'y. General, an absolutely Classic, archetype "Oregon Liberal". Over the top sensitive, touchy-feely PC conscious to the core...

Pete is rare within Eugene, but once you stray much outside the city limits of "hippyville", from behind the Birkenstock curtain, there are real people in the 'burbs and rural areas.

If it were not for Portland (Multnomah county) and Eugene (Lane county) Oregon might be a Red State. This story is not over yet!


7 posted on 01/26/2005 12:29:35 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative ( <temporary tagline leased from "Taglines 'R' Us"> Lazy Anarchist Vandals for Peace)
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To: bellevuesbest
No doubt there would be no hint of not even a whisper from them ( University of Orwell ) if that bumper sticker or magnet had any " GAY AGENDA " propaganda on it or any " FEMENIST AGENDA " on it ? would we ? Hmmmmm ???
10 posted on 01/26/2005 2:47:46 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: bellevuesbest
Oregon law prohibits personal messages on state-owned vehicles, regardless of the context.

End of story.

12 posted on 01/26/2005 3:03:00 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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13 posted on 01/26/2005 6:46:09 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: bellevuesbest
Universities are private institutions, as upheld by the Supreme Court. So how can the truck be considered state owned?
16 posted on 01/26/2005 3:12:03 PM PST by RetroWarrior ('I will guard my post from flank to flank and take no 'crap' from any rank')
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To: bellevuesbest

Time to start taking pictures.

I'm sure some of the University staff has car privileges. Not to mention some the higher muckity-mucks in the state government.


17 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:20 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Gas?)
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To: bellevuesbest
I'm a student at the UO-and I hate to do this, but I'm going to defend Frohnie.

In his statement posted on the University website, he said "Because the university is a state agency, I cannot make distinctions or allowances on this matter, regardless of the cause or the breadth of its support. Whether the message is "Support Our Troops," "Fund Cancer Research" or "Support Tsunami Relief," employees may not place personal stickers or magnets on state-owned vehicles."

I agree with him. Contrary to what people have said, I've seen very few state-owned vehicles in Eugene with personal stickers on them (I actually cannot recall any, but I won't say I haven't ever seen them...). Though this is a case of a rule probably needing to be bent, Frohnmayer IS right. And as a former Attorney General, he probably doesn't want to just go make things up as he goes-especially when these issues are so prominent. Trust me, my boyfriend knows the man fairly well-he didn't want to do it.
20 posted on 01/27/2005 1:36:52 AM PST by Kirsty-Q
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