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Stone Savages U.S.A TV (Oliver Stone's Series on TWA 800 Cancelled; America too Anti-Gay)
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 6 Jan 2005 | Julia Day and Adrianna de Souza

Posted on 01/27/2005 4:19:50 AM PST by gobucks

Oscar-winning film director Oliver Stone has lashed out at US television, calling network executives "appalling cowards" who do not allow programme-makers to take risks.

Mr Stone was attending the London premiere of his £80m epic movie Alexander last night - which sparked controversy in the US for portraying the Macedonian warrior king as bisexual - when he spoke out about the state of American TV.

When asked by reporters whether the film would have been better suited to the small screen, he said: "You can't be controversial on TV, you'd get killed in America."

Mr Stone said a TV series he made about the TWA 800 flight from New York to Paris that exploded shortly after takeoff in July 1996, killing all 230 people on board, was "cancelled rather suddenly".

"I've had big problems with TV. Television is not easy to get done, especially since the corporate climate in America is such that risk is averted at all costs. The constant back-peddling of TV executives is appalling and it is cowardice," added Mr Stone.

Moritz Borman, the producer of Alexander, took the opportunity of the London premiere to reveal he wanted to create a "dumbed down" version of the film for US audiences but Stone would not have let him do it.

"We always knew America would be more difficult for this kind of material," said Mr Borman.

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"In retrospect I would have said 'let's do that'. Oliver wouldn't have let me but I'd have tried."

Mr Stone's career as a film and TV director, producer and screenwriter, spanning more than 30 years, has generated more controversy than most.

His work, including JFK, Natural Born Killers, Nixon and Platoon, has been attacked as the work of a conspiracy theorist obsessed by American foreign policy and distorting history. He has been demonised by the American press for not fitting the traditional Hollywood mould.

But Mr Stone has won two Academy Awards for directing Platoon and Born on the Fourth of July, and remains one of America's most prolific film-makers. However, Alexander is unlikely to boost his credentials after being labelled a turkey by the critics.

Mr Stone has blamed the bad reviews and poor box office taking in the US on attitudes towards homosexuality.

He said: "Sexuality is a large issue in America right now but it isn't so much in other countries... From day one audiences didn't show up. They didn't even read the reviews in the south because the media was using the words 'Alex is gay'.

"As a result you can bet that they [film-goers] thought 'we're not going to see a film about a military leader who has got something wrong with him. General [Norman] Schwarzkopf and General Tommy Francis are not gay.'"


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
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""cancelled rather suddenly""

I have to go to work rather suddenly. But, though it was common knowledge about all this Gay stuff, and his preoccupation with it, I didn't know he was delving into TWA 800, or that he was involved in a tv project ....

1 posted on 01/27/2005 4:19:51 AM PST by gobucks
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To: gobucks


The left eats their own.


2 posted on 01/27/2005 4:22:02 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Mmm...

Tasty!

:)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

3 posted on 01/27/2005 4:23:33 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: gobucks

"General Tommy Francis"; should be Franks...


4 posted on 01/27/2005 4:23:58 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: gobucks

"Mr Stone has blamed the bad reviews and poor box office taking in the US on attitudes towards homosexuality."

One more time... your movie failed because it sucked. Quit blaming others for your failure.


5 posted on 01/27/2005 4:24:08 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: gobucks


I don't blame the Clinton adminstration for Covering up TWA. By covering it up, they denied a terrorist group the attention they thrive on.

I blame them for not doing anything about it afterward.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 4:24:33 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
"General Tommy Francis"; should be Franks...

Only to his friends ;) And that's Thomas Francis

7 posted on 01/27/2005 4:25:54 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't bring a moped to a car fight)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I don't blame the Clinton adminstration for Covering up TWA.

The Clinton White House was incompetant from the top down.

8 posted on 01/27/2005 4:26:18 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
But you have to admit, Tommy "Francis" does sound pretty gay.
9 posted on 01/27/2005 4:26:25 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: gobucks

Oliver Stone simply doesn't understand (or pretends he doesn't). Television execs are not in it to bravely air controversial pieces. They are in it to make money.

Leftists like Oliver Stone don't understand that the vast majority of Americans don't want to be confronted with controversial documentaries or peppered with one activist agenda after another 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 4:26:39 AM PST by bobjam
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"You can't be controversial on TV, you'd get killed in America."

No,what socialists can`t understand is that in a market system if you sell or promote something that people don`t want or agree with,guess what,it fails.

11 posted on 01/27/2005 4:28:08 AM PST by carlr
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I don't blame the Clinton adminstration for Covering up TWA. By covering it up, they denied a terrorist group the attention they thrive on.

TWA 800 "It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been."

ML/NJ

12 posted on 01/27/2005 4:29:57 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: gobucks
He has been demonised by the American press for not fitting the traditional Hollywood mould.

That is an unfair criticism. Stone fits the Hollywood tradition quite well. He's a pompus, self-absorbed, spoiled, head case.

13 posted on 01/27/2005 4:31:21 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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Kinda forgets to mention the Greeks were the one's to raise heck over the homo thing. . .even had a legion of Greek lawyers ready to sue over the homo allegations. . .sheesh, little oliver is such an American-hating buffoon. Heck, with little Oliver's fascination with homo activity. . .and his America-hating attitude. . hmmm. . .perhaps he's "dating" Michael Moore?
14 posted on 01/27/2005 4:32:39 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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Oliver Stone made a documantary about TWA 800!?! If anyone knows more about this, please post it.

15 posted on 01/27/2005 4:34:03 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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Dude, that's nasty.


16 posted on 01/27/2005 4:35:14 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Go Howard Go!)
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To: bobjam
Precisely.

That's why I believe-and I may be alone in this opinion-that "Tupac: Resurrection" deserves to win the "Best Documentary" award at this year's Oscars, instead of that tendentious, hackneyed piece of leftist tripe, "Supersize Me."

17 posted on 01/27/2005 4:35:15 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: ml/nj


Thank you! Very interesting....


18 posted on 01/27/2005 4:36:44 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: gobucks
Stone thinks he's more sophisticated than the average American.

I don't know how to break this to you, Oliver...but it's just the opposite.

"They didn't even read the reviews in the south because the media was using the words 'Alex is gay'."

Stone's never heard of Key West, New Orleans, Asheville, Savannah, or South Beach.

19 posted on 01/27/2005 4:37:11 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: Savage Beast

You forgot to make note of all those raging homophobes currently living in San Francisco and New Paltz.


20 posted on 01/27/2005 4:38:46 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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