Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Navy photos of Submarine USS San Francisco in Dry Dock (you won't believe the extent of damage!)
U.S. Navy ^

Posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by Boot Hill

The amount of damage is simply staggering!

That this boat ever made it back to port is a tribute to its designers, builders, and especially to the crew and captain. How does America keep finding men like these?


High resolution version here


High resolution version here


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grounding; guam; navy; ssn711; submarine; usssanfrancisco
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 541-554 next last
To: Boot Hill

They will likely remove everything damaged forward of one of the bulkheads aft of all of the damage, then attach a newly fabricated forward section. As long as the integrity of the hull has not been compromised aft of the island, it would not be considered a "total loss."


61 posted on 01/27/2005 1:04:17 PM PST by reeb88 (How much fun are 72 virgins anyway? How much crying can one martyr take?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill

Unbelivable!


62 posted on 01/27/2005 1:04:32 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill

The San Francisco was my old boat when I was in the Navy. Sad to see her in this horrible shape. Unbelievable that they lost so few.


63 posted on 01/27/2005 1:04:59 PM PST by inkling
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lafroste

"How deep was it when it hit?"

According to Navy Times, it was about 500 feet down when it hit!


64 posted on 01/27/2005 1:05:27 PM PST by Levante
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Blzbba

..and unless I miss my guess...
It looks like they brought part of the mountian home with them!
Those are big rocks stuck in the sonar space and lower left ballast tank.


65 posted on 01/27/2005 1:05:49 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Fear the rabbit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: najida

It looks like the sub crashed against an uncharted undersea mountain.

Here are a bunch of link stories:
http://news.google.com/news?q=711%20San%20francisco%20sub&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wn


66 posted on 01/27/2005 1:05:56 PM PST by David1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: bigfootbob

In that case they might salvage something. There will be extensive x-ray testing of the pressure hull and pressure fittings.


67 posted on 01/27/2005 1:06:09 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: WildTurkey
Looks like the buckling was topside, port of the walkway, just aft of the damage. I'm not a submariner (though I did spend a couple of years in the U.S. Naval Sea Cadet Corps), but I don't think that bulge was part of the sonar dome.


68 posted on 01/27/2005 1:06:31 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale

The sub is salvageable. IIRC, the reactor stuff is in the back of the sub. But it depends on if it is cost-effective to strip out the front half of the sub and repair/replace it. It also depends on if there is a political will to fix it.


69 posted on 01/27/2005 1:07:00 PM PST by Fudd (Never confuse a liberal with facts.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale

I defer to your knowledge..I thought maybe, from the pic..only the front 25% of the sub would have to be scrapped..


70 posted on 01/27/2005 1:07:47 PM PST by ken5050
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Jet Jaguar; Doohickey; ...
one time ping list to folks from one of the original threads:

Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam

71 posted on 01/27/2005 1:07:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill

Good God. That they made it back is amazing. What exactly is the trap for ? Covering classified stuff ?


72 posted on 01/27/2005 1:08:37 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Centurion2000
What exactly is the trap for ? Covering classified stuff ?

That's classified.

73 posted on 01/27/2005 1:09:22 PM PST by Lazamataz (Running around in a circle waving my arms and screaming like a little girl)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill

A detailed examination of the high-res image reveals they may have come into contact with terrain at about a 45 (or so) degree angle on their port side (angle measured from dead ahead and to the left) ...


74 posted on 01/27/2005 1:10:12 PM PST by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tempest
it was the captain that ran it into a mountain

I could have this completely wrong, Tempest, but in following the threads on this accident, my recollection, after lots of bashing of the Captain for running into a mountain, FGS, was that it was discovered that the mountain was NOT on any charts, sonar is not operating when the sub is being stealthy (I'm sure there is a more nautical way to say that), and that this was pretty much unavoidable. I know I will be corrected if I have misunderstood. Tremendous credit certainly does go to the engineers and those who built what must be a remarkable craft.

75 posted on 01/27/2005 1:11:15 PM PST by Bahbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Tempest
Nope it was the engineers and the people who built it was the captain that ran it into a mountain =^)

It takes a proper captain to train and discipline a crew to react properly in this type of situation. My hat is off to him and the crew. If he was on-course, he did not "run it into a mountain". He was a victim of fate and the official orders that put him on that course.

76 posted on 01/27/2005 1:11:48 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Martin Tell; snopercod; Dog; Dog Gone; Coop; Cap Huff; Calpernia; blackie
Here is one link, there are many others:

Submarine Crash Shows Navy Had Gaps in Mapping System

77 posted on 01/27/2005 1:12:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Boot Hill

How can you tell it is the pressure hull that has buckled and not the ballast tank superstructure?


78 posted on 01/27/2005 1:13:09 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Charles Martel
Look at the orange construction fence; the walkway to which it is affixed goes "up and over" a bulge in the hull.

There is a bulge but how do you tell if it is a bulge in the pressure hull?

79 posted on 01/27/2005 1:14:12 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: bigfootbob
I don't think so. This looks like a Trident class sub, (I'm no expert, but my fishing buddy is a lead supervisor at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and I've been treated to some inside stuff about the Navy's retro-fitting plans for the Trident fleet), and it was scheduled to be refurbished into a new awesome reincarnation.

You can say that again ...

80 posted on 01/27/2005 1:16:18 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 541-554 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson