Drug War Shrinking Bill of Rights

Fox News Network ^ | Jan. 27, 2005 | Radley Balko

[eno_]

TIA lives on, in various commercial versions and in successor projects. The name was changed. The project is still there. Cisco has a handy page listing some of the neat tools Big Brother uses on you:

http://www.cisco.com/wwl/regaffairs/lawful_intercept/

[eno_]

Reality dictates that, for domestic security, we roll up as many smugglers and dealers as possible and incarcerate them.

Reality is that the Drug War creates the drug gangs, just like Prohibition created The Mob. I grew up two towns over from where Capone ruled, and next door to Sam Giancana. The Drug War will give us the next generation of these fine citizens, plus an army of bent cops and pols.

[Grut]

I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.

There's an important subset of 'conservatives' who feel powerless and want to identify with a government that "kicks ass and takes names".

[Ken H]

1. The WOD was elevated to cabinet level priority in 1989. Has there been any success in curbing supply, demand, or profits to drug traffickers?

2. Which Clause delegates to Congress the power to dictate intrastate drug policies?

[maine-iac7]

several state legislatures have also now considered bills that would mandate ignition interlock devices in every car sold in the state. New Mexico's version of the law would require all drivers to blow into a tube before starting their car, then again every ten minutes while driving. Drivers over the legal limit would not be able to start their cars or, if already on the road, given a window of time to pull over. Onboard computer systems would keep data on each test, which service centers would download once a month or so and send to law enforcement officials for evaluation.

(above excerpt from full article)

This is spine chilling! Even Huxley couldn't have dreamed this up!

I'm gonna get a donkey...

[verity]

Just who's bigger and better armed.

And don't you forget it. :0

[Bahbah]

I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.

Count me out. The federal government has done lots of stupid and awful things but way up at the top are the WOD and the establishment of the Department of Education.

[thoughtomator]

That link implies that there are NO products which use this protocol. Is there something actually in existence that qualifies?

[thoughtomator]

US society, before we instituted the WoD. None of the rampant drug problems we have now.

[Trailerpark Badass]

You won't like his answer, but I would love to be around to watch you ask.

He would have been better off putting his investment money into a probation management business. Those things are gold mines, and unlike credit card companies, they can put one in jail for falling behind on payments. (of course, he will get out fairly quickly; got more fines to pay, ya know!)

[thoughtomator]

Why is that?

[Trailerpark Badass]

One of the primary duties of the federal government is to protect the citizens by protecting the borders from unwanted people, animals and things including certain drugs.

"One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong..."

[eno_]

Smoking cafes exist all over the Netherlands. I used to commute to Amsterdam for a consulting gig. A pleasant stop on the way to the airport for the flight home. I dare say "air rage" would be rare if passengers roasted a bone instead of tanking up on booze. Pot is the vast majority of illegal drug use, and the rest will make no statistical significant impact on society, if legalized.

The model is Prohibition. We had to get rid of it. SO it will be with the Drug War. Spit on a narc's familiy member if you value freedom. These people are the enemy.

90% of addiction and mortality and morbidity due to drug use is due to alcohol. There is a good case to be made that if pot displaced some alcohol use, there would be fewer prob
lems with addiction in society.

[eno_]

What protocol are you referring to?

I am very familiar with telecom infrastructure LI protocols.

[lodwick]

Welcome to the PoliceState, Wolfie.

Be prepared to show your papers, and be strip-searched, at any given moment.

[Ed_in_NJ]

Perhaps the greatest perversion of Supreme Court logic is in the Earls case, in which Thomas declares that high school students must be treated as a class of people, not as individuals.