1 posted on
01/27/2005 3:40:31 PM PST by
Wolfie
To: Wolfie
Someone needs to explain to me how come we needed a constitutional amendment to make the sale of alcool a federal crime, but didn't need one to pass our insane and draconian drug laws.
I will never understand why conservatives support federal anti-drug laws.
2 posted on
01/27/2005 3:44:01 PM PST by
Maceman
(Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
To: Wolfie
the Fourth Amendment protects not against violations of privacy or invasiveness, but against violation of property rights. Since one can't have property rights for illicit drugs, a search can't violate the Fourth Amendment.Sheer sophistry, with straw man component of property rights. Perhaps we should be glad the Court recognizes property rights in SOME context.
So, using the same principle, an otherwise illegal search of a home that finds, say, stolen goods makes the search legal, since there are no property rights in stolen goods either? What a precedent!
3 posted on
01/27/2005 3:45:16 PM PST by
jammer
To: Wolfie
"Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the majority, indicated that the Fourth Amendment protects not against violations of privacy or invasiveness, but against violation of property rights."
"Since one can't have property rights for illicit drugs, a search can't violate the Fourth Amendment."
Catch 22.
Since our government has decreed that they can declare most anything "illicit", -- one obviously has virtually no property rights.
"A search for illicit property can't violate the Fourth Amendment" is sheer idiocy: -- illogical thinking enshrined in legalistic sounding BS.
It's nearly time.
8 posted on
01/27/2005 3:58:35 PM PST by
jonestown
( A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." ~ Winston Churchill)
To: Wolfie
Yeah, things are getting insane.
To: Wolfie
Anybody know who dissented?
16 posted on
01/27/2005 4:09:34 PM PST by
eno_
(Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
To: Wolfie
The cops recently raided a high school in my city. Drug sniffing dogs were brought in to search the school. It should be noted that the school in question has a high percentage of blacks. They did not find a thing. Nothing. And they were not acting on any type of tip. Just wanted to let the kids know they were watching them. As a parent, I find this outrageous. No one wants their children using drugs, but just because they attend a public school should not mean they give up their basic rights. I found it outrageous.
17 posted on
01/27/2005 4:10:44 PM PST by
mlc9852
To: Wolfie
several state legislatures have also now considered bills that would mandate ignition interlock devices in every car sold in the state. New Mexico's version of the law would require all drivers to blow into a tube before starting their car, then again every ten minutes while driving. Drivers over the legal limit would not be able to start their cars or, if already on the road, given a window of time to pull over. Onboard computer systems would keep data on each test, which service centers would download once a month or so and send to law enforcement officials for evaluation. (above excerpt from full article)
This is spine chilling! Even Huxley couldn't have dreamed this up!
I'm gonna get a donkey...
25 posted on
01/27/2005 4:25:40 PM PST by
maine-iac7
(...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
To: Wolfie
Welcome to the PoliceState, Wolfie.
Be prepared to show your papers, and be strip-searched, at any given moment.
38 posted on
01/27/2005 4:41:47 PM PST by
lodwick
(Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
To: Wolfie
58 posted on
01/27/2005 5:45:06 PM PST by
Fiddlstix
(This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
To: Wolfie
The Drug War isn't shrinking the Bill of Rights: it's ERASING it!
61 posted on
01/27/2005 5:49:27 PM PST by
libertyman
(Dims = tax & SPEND; GOP = borrow & SPEND. Either way, WE'RE SCREWED!)
To: Wolfie
The Supreme Court is part of gub'mint (the Third Branch of our ruling troika) and as such has no vested interest in reducing the power of gub'mint.
93 posted on
01/28/2005 4:05:26 AM PST by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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