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German justices consider trying Rumsfeld
UPI ^ | 1-28-05

Posted on 01/28/2005 3:39:10 PM PST by Indy Pendance

BERLIN, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- A German court spokesman said Friday no decision had been made on whether to prosecute U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal.

The daily Tagesspiegel reported German justice authorities would not act on a criminal complaint filed by an international legal team in November against Rumsfeld and other U.S. senior officials because no German nationals were involved.

But a German court spokesman said: "We have yet to decide whether or not to pursue the charge."

Tagesspiegel said German law prevents federal Prosecutor Kay Nehm from taking legal action unless Germans were involved -- either as suspects or victims.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurotrash; oldeurope; rumsfeld
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1 posted on 01/28/2005 3:39:10 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Wie kann man "sod off" auf Deutsch sagen?


2 posted on 01/28/2005 3:41:04 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Indy Pendance

They should consider the fact that Rumsfeld commands enough forces to make French the official language of Germany.


3 posted on 01/28/2005 3:41:21 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: Indy Pendance
A'holes, come on!
4 posted on 01/28/2005 3:41:23 PM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Apparently to Germans panty raids are more offensive than making lamp shades from Jews.


5 posted on 01/28/2005 3:41:38 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: Indy Pendance

Big talk from mice.


6 posted on 01/28/2005 3:41:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (they call me tater.)
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To: Indy Pendance

To attempt it would be an act of war. This is an astonishingly unserious act by an ever-increasingly unserious country.


7 posted on 01/28/2005 3:42:16 PM PST by marron
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To: Indy Pendance

I think it's time we recall some diplomats.


8 posted on 01/28/2005 3:42:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Wie kann man "sod off" auf Deutsch sagen?

That would be Fick dich, Topf Kopf!

9 posted on 01/28/2005 3:42:57 PM PST by andyandval
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To: Indy Pendance

Wamkers...


10 posted on 01/28/2005 3:43:01 PM PST by Drango (To Serve Man.....IT'S A COOKBOOK!)
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To: Indy Pendance

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT wrong answer......you try him and you have made a country full of new enemies.


11 posted on 01/28/2005 3:43:04 PM PST by Dog
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To: Indy Pendance

Bunch of Nazi. The children of Hitler are up to it again.


12 posted on 01/28/2005 3:43:37 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: marron

I hope so.


13 posted on 01/28/2005 3:43:54 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Sorry. Got a little carried away there.


14 posted on 01/28/2005 3:43:57 PM PST by andyandval
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To: Indy Pendance
German justices consider trying Rumsfeld

Rummy considers kicking Germany's ass.

15 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:14 PM PST by MattinNJ (Why does Superman stop bullets with his chest, but ducks when they throw the revolver at him?)
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To: DoughtyOne
I think it's time we recall some diplomats.

I fully agree with you. I'm tired of Euro judges trying to extend their jurisdictions to include the known universe.

16 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:27 PM PST by marron
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To: YOUGOTIT
Bunch of Nazi technically they are talking in global terms not national.
17 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:29 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

'Schiebs dir in den Arsch' would be a good translation, but I may not swear in this board - so I can't tell you.


18 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:31 PM PST by dont panic
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To: Indy Pendance

Them ain't Fokkers, them's Messerschmidts.



Fire at will!


19 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:41 PM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: knighthawk; americanbychoice2; AMDG&BVMH; An.American.Expatriate; a_Turk; austinTparty; BMCDA; ...
German Ping.

Whoa.... a different story here.

Here's the other thread today saying the Germans are not pursuing the charge:

"Free Republic"....Germany rules out action against Rumsfeld

I wonder what's up?

longjack

20 posted on 01/28/2005 3:45:58 PM PST by longjack
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To: Indy Pendance
A German court spokesman said Friday no decision had been made on whether to prosecute U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the Abu Ghraib prisoner scandal.

They put people on trial for scandals in Germany?

In that case shouldn't they be arresting Chancellor Gerhard?

21 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:15 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Lumpiger Schweinhund!


22 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:29 PM PST by andyandval
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To: longjack

I read that, notice the time of this story, and the previous one. Looks like someone told them to hold off.


23 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:34 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: marron

When will Sudanese leadership end up in a German court? Bushie needs to tell them to Fock Ofk.


24 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:36 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: Indy Pendance
So, I can go to my local court in the middle of the US and file all kinds of charges against German official, etc., huh!

===

The German court would need some kind of legal theory/authority, and they have none---unless they want to charge that, by the US deposing Saddam Hussein, certain German beneficiaries suffered because the benefits from the UN's Oil for Food Swindle were drastically reduced.
25 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:45 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Wir sollten die Kinder von Hitler Russisch sprechen lassen.

Maybe this is what should be said. Or something to that effect.


26 posted on 01/28/2005 3:47:57 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Indy Pendance

...But a German court spokesman said: "We have yet to decide whether or not to pursue the charge." ...

Oh by all means, pursue it. We love it when you people show your puny asses publicly.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 3:48:47 PM PST by planekT
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To: TomGuy

Germany bailed on the war in Iraq. It seems to me they have no leg to stand on with this.


28 posted on 01/28/2005 3:48:50 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Sorry to use the phrase, but it's "Bush's fault" for not signing on to the International Criminal Court. That'd make it so much easier for them to 'Declare War on the US'!!!
29 posted on 01/28/2005 3:50:16 PM PST by digger48
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To: TomGuy

We should probably feel sorry for the Germans and French who enjoy false Republics that are probably more oppressive than the Kaisers or the Sun King could ever be.


30 posted on 01/28/2005 3:50:18 PM PST by Lord Nelson
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To: Indy Pendance
Some nations have a difficult time understanding the concept of 'sovereignty':

Mexico threatens Arizona over anti-illegals measure Official says challenge to Proposition 200
31 posted on 01/28/2005 3:50:54 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: MattinNJ

Die Idioten!


32 posted on 01/28/2005 3:51:23 PM PST by The Teen Conservative (Taglines really get me worked up to write something in them for nothin', y'know?)
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To: TomGuy
What's real interesting is, this story comes out on the anniversary of Auschwitz. Is it a coincidence? Or do the Germans have guilt complex?
33 posted on 01/28/2005 3:52:37 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
Is this from the Onion or Scrappleface? LOL Next you'll tell me that Canada invaded Minnesota! The Florida National Guard could kick Germany's butt, and they have the nerve to play these stooopid games? Might be time for Normandy Redux.
34 posted on 01/28/2005 3:52:55 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Why don't we just settle this with a duel between a M1 Abrams and Leopard II?


35 posted on 01/28/2005 3:53:44 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
They should consider the fact that Rumsfeld commands enough forces to make French the official language of Germany.

*Chuckle* It'd serve the cowards right. And that's coming from someone who's German descent. We just had the brains to get out way long ago.

36 posted on 01/28/2005 3:53:47 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Indy Pendance

If I recall correctly, Germany wasn't part of the war in Iraq. They matter as much as Borneo throwing a fit.


37 posted on 01/28/2005 3:53:49 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me
Florida National Guard

You aren't dissing Floridians by saying this, are you? j/k
38 posted on 01/28/2005 3:55:05 PM PST by The Teen Conservative (Taglines really get me worked up to write something in them for nothin', y'know?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
...enough forces to make French the official language of Germany... by lunchtime.
39 posted on 01/28/2005 3:55:23 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Indy Pendance
I hope this opens the eyes of the DC criminals who make our laws. IF President Bush had joined the International Criminal Court, they could legally go after Rummy. Hopefully, those same DC idiots will think twice before signing us into another treaty!!
40 posted on 01/28/2005 3:56:58 PM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY, NO UN, NO PC, NO WHINY @SS LIBERAL BETTERS, NO LIBERAL JUDGES!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

How terrible, at this rate Zimbabwe will be threatening to try American officials, and then what will we do?


41 posted on 01/28/2005 3:57:44 PM PST by xJones
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Mirror, Mirror On the Wall...

Germany's favorite tabloid Bild, has spent money to
prove what many have long known: Germans are the most
pessimistic people in the industrialized world. The
survey, commissioned by the paper from Gallup, found
that only 25 percent of Germans look positively to the
future whereas 65 percent of Americans see themselves
with rosy tomorrows. Another factoid from the survey:
90 percent of Germans say they don't trust their
leaders, compared to 65 percent of Americans. How to
explain the discrepancy? It's simple, Klaus-Peter
Schoeppner, head of Gallup in Germany, tells Bild.
Americans are movers and shakers, while Germans are
whiners and complainers. "That's why the US and not
Germany can climb out of crisis easily," he said. "We
should look more often to America for advice."

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,339016,00.html


Need not worry...they are so confused they don't know which end is up.
42 posted on 01/28/2005 3:58:19 PM PST by Ginifer (Just because you have one doesn't mean you have to act like one!)
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To: NRA2BFree

The dems would love nothing more than to have Rumsfeld be tried in Germany, or any other country. They are dying for another Nixon.


43 posted on 01/28/2005 3:58:32 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance
On the other thread, I linked to a post from yesterday about Rumsfeld not going to the security conference.

Washington told the Germans in December to settle the matter or Rummy wasn't coming, according to an article I cited on the thread.

It was funny that the Germans decided to make a statement today, a day late and a dollar short, IMHO. Now this.

longjack

44 posted on 01/28/2005 3:59:27 PM PST by longjack
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To: Indy Pendance

German justices need to have their cuckoo clocks reset or the quality of German beer has declined. Isn't this the country without any transport planes for its troops? Did they not need Ukraine to help them with air transport with their "contribution" to the Balkan wars? Don't they have enough problems at home to deal with--such as rising anti-semitism?


45 posted on 01/28/2005 4:00:45 PM PST by Winston7000 (Near Chicago)
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To: longjack

See my post 33.


46 posted on 01/28/2005 4:00:53 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: dont panic
"'Schiebs dir in den Arsch' would be a good translation, but I may not swear in this board - so I can't tell you."

Theeereza Heinz Kerry "Shove it". LOL!
47 posted on 01/28/2005 4:01:38 PM PST by Ginifer (Just because you have one doesn't mean you have to act like one!)
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To: xJones

Get Monaco's help.


48 posted on 01/28/2005 4:02:14 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: cripplecreek
Big talk from mice.

Yup.

49 posted on 01/28/2005 4:02:37 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Indy Pendance
Lets see, We have a German legal case here where there are no Germans involved as victims or otherwise and there is absolutely no evidence linking the "accused" to the commission of any crime. But we can't decide whether or not to proceed with a criminal prosecution.

I think I must have slipped into a coma back in January and just now awakened to discover that it's April 1st.
50 posted on 01/28/2005 4:02:41 PM PST by spinestein
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