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Friday, Jan. 28, 2005 1:22 p.m. EST Poll: Wash. Voters Want a Revote
Newsmax ^ | Friday, Jan. 28, 2005 1:22 p.m. EST | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/28/2005 4:15:40 PM PST by Mikmur

A Strategic Vision, LLC poll asked respondents in Washington who they would vote for in a revote, and Republican Dino Rossi was selected by 51 percent; Democrat Christine Gregoire was the choice of 43 percent; and 6 percent were undecided, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.

When asked who do they believed actually won the gubernatorial election, 53 percent said Republican Rossi, 37 percent said Democrat Gregoire, and 10 percent were undecided.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: election; overturn; revote; stolen
IT is a shame that anywhere in America an election can be subverted as this one has. Shame on you democraps.
1 posted on 01/28/2005 4:15:40 PM PST by Mikmur
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To: Mikmur

Amazing!!!!! There is still a bunch of idiots who can't decide who to vote for????? Why are these people allowed to vote at all?


2 posted on 01/28/2005 4:26:53 PM PST by Kath (Luvya Dubya)
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To: Mikmur

Riddled with fraud and deception. We need a RE-VOTE!


3 posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:21 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Kath
Why are these people allowed to vote at all?

I always got a laugh about those TV programs that charged for call in votes. They always reported a percentage of "undecided." The indicator of a true moderate, one who would pay to be recorded as undecided.

4 posted on 01/28/2005 4:32:28 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: Kath
We know who to vote for, however, our votes have been diluted by dead voters, felons and people voting more than once. We have more votes counted than people registered.

Rossi "loss" only by 129 votes and there are far more votes than that in question.

5 posted on 01/28/2005 4:37:43 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Vicki

ReVote BTTT!


6 posted on 01/28/2005 4:46:44 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Baynative

Methinks so, too


8 posted on 01/28/2005 5:06:13 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Kath

PLEASE....


9 posted on 01/28/2005 5:06:25 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Mikmur

We call them Gregocrats...

Remember the Dinocrat who is racing to the rescue at http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com


10 posted on 01/28/2005 5:07:05 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Baynative

What do people in Washington think about Christine's income tax proposal? Does it appear that the legislature will attempt to adopt it without a vote of the people? Do people even know it is on the table?


11 posted on 01/28/2005 5:11:06 PM PST by David
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To: David
What do people in Washington think about Christine's income tax proposal? Does it appear that the legislature will attempt to adopt it without a vote of the people? Do people even know it is on the table?

I didn't know it was on the table. I did a search on google and didn't find a thing. What is her proposal?

12 posted on 01/28/2005 5:19:45 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: David; Vicki

An income tax here would go over about as well as a sales tax in Oregon or Montana...


14 posted on 01/28/2005 5:28:04 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Baynative
The debate has already begun as to whether laws inacted while she is not leaglly holding the office can be vacated along with her and her fraudulant administration.

When we get our Re-Vote, I hope that all the laws that were passed while she was in office are rolled back. I see the U-Haul ....

15 posted on 01/28/2005 5:36:49 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Mikmur
Anyone ever watch Blackadder?

BlackAdder: "Well Percy, if you could just start things off."
Percy: "The king is dead! Long live the king! The king is dead" (crowd joins in).
(King Richard the III enters the room)
Crowd: "The king is.... NOT dead! Long live the king!... Hooorraaaaay!!!"

16 posted on 01/28/2005 5:38:05 PM PST by Lexinom
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That's a real can of worms. I'm trying to thing of what the Dem response will be.

"According to law, she was certified as the Governor. All legal procedures have been followed.... blah blah blah".

17 posted on 01/28/2005 5:39:46 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

They probably have their attorneys already working on it. They can see what's coming.


18 posted on 01/28/2005 5:45:03 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Baynative; Vicki
The net effect, then, is a retroactive government shutdown from 12 January 2005 to May or June or whenever Rossi, assuming he wins, is sworn in.

Works for me!

20 posted on 01/28/2005 5:49:48 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Kath

Maybe not. It could be people that voted for CG and now having second thoughts, or people like me who do not tell who they are going to vote for:')


21 posted on 01/28/2005 5:51:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Kath
Or then again, maybe it's the dead, felons or out of towners trying to decide if they should do it again:')
22 posted on 01/28/2005 5:53:36 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: David

Not going to happen... state constitution requires 50 percent plus one of the voting public!


23 posted on 01/28/2005 6:15:26 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Vicki; Kath

Vicki, I think Kath was referring to people who responded to the poll that they were still undecided whom they would vote for at this point. I have to agree - at this point after all we've been through, I don't understand how anyone could still be undecided!!


24 posted on 01/28/2005 6:23:56 PM PST by SW6906
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Vicki, I think Kath was referring to people who responded to the poll that they were still undecided whom they would vote for at this point.

Oh, that could be. Perhaps I misunderstood. If that's the case, sorry Kath.

25 posted on 01/28/2005 6:37:39 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Josef1235; Lexinom; Baynative; Vicki
Well I am going to answer everyone at the same time.

I believe Christine has an income tax proposal to be advanced to the legislature; perversly there are those on the dem side of the isle who think the election controversy works to their benefit on the issue.

As to Josef1235's point about the constitution, there is a view that the State Supreme Court would probably not come down that way today.

As I recall, the constitutional prohibition position relies on a 1930's case holding that an excise tax on net income of a corporation was unconstitutional. However taxes on property are ok and income is property. Not so clear that the constitution is an effective bar although obviously it would be argued.

In fact, in the early 70's, Dan and Slade considered trying to run an income tax without amending the constitution; as I recall, Slade advocated doing so fairly seriously. They also considered proposals called "Gateway" proposals pursuant to which they could incorporate a constitutional amendment in a bill for a one time vote of the people. At the end of the day, Dan and Slade had slightly more integrity than the dems--not much.

My real question was whether that issue has yet surfaced. Like one of you, if the dems handed the issue to the voters, it would be defeated. But the dems up there have a culture that the voters don't remember what happened in the last session of the legislature and would be more likely that the Pubs to adopt an income tax and try to run it without voter approval.

26 posted on 01/28/2005 6:49:49 PM PST by David
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To: Kath

It is not a question of deciding who to vote for. I am quite sure that everyone who voted, be they a legal voter, deceased, voted twice or voting felons, voted for exactly who they intended to vote for.

The problem is several of these categories of voters were not legal voters. Another problems is that we have thousands of votes, but no bodies to credit them to, and we have voters who are not recorded as having voted.

What it is, is a MESS, that no one at this point can make heads or tails of; therefore we need to clean-up the rolls the best we can for now and hope that it can be counted correctly this time.

After that, we will engage in fighting for some major election reforms, and I am sure it will be quite a fight.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 6:50:24 PM PST by HannaUSA (One American that is dang sick of the lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Vicki; Baynative; HannaUSA; 4woodenboats; Josef1235; CyberCowboy777; All
Pinging a few of you...

This is courtesy Vicki, a screenshot from my browser. NOTICE................... the big, bold DEMOCRATIC "Time's A Wastin'" link, with lotsa froth and commentary, up at that top, and the wimpy little "Republican Version", tagged on like an afterthought.

28 posted on 01/28/2005 7:42:56 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Kath
Amazing!!!!! There is still a bunch of idiots who can't decide who to vote for????? Why are these people allowed to vote at all?

The article is referring to the percentage of people who are are uncertain who won this race. The court case is based in large part on the fact that there were so many "mistakes" and "unreconcilable" voter/ballot tallies at the end of the election as to make a victor impossible to discern.

In this case, having a large percentage of the population uncertain who won is beneficial to our case. It shows the RAT's "the race is over and we have a clear victor" cart has lost its wheels, and now the Rossi Snow Removal Train is gonna knock that cart off our tracks!

29 posted on 01/29/2005 6:05:13 AM PST by 4woodenboats (I see Dead People - and they're voting in Seattle!! Rossi in 2005!)
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To: David
My real question was whether that issue has yet surfaced. Like one of you, if the dems handed the issue to the voters, it would be defeated. But the dems up there have a culture that the voters don't remember what happened in the last session of the legislature and would be more likely that the Pubs to adopt an income tax and try to run it without voter approval.

Assuming you meant than, the rats are increasingly attempting to circumvent our rights to vote on ordinances and resolutions. I can't give you many specifics, but Locke going to court to try to block our right to have resoultions met with some success, as were they more recently in blocking a petition seeking to overturn the CAO by King county residents, so a trend is clearly established. CGore has likewise established a "placating the paupers" trend, that is distancing herself from her dirty deeds, telling the camera one thing while her staff is "mandating" exactly the opposite. While she has repeatedly stated - and continues to do so - that she does not want new taxes to slow down our economic recovery - but cannot rule them out later - the unwashed side of the aisle is devising new taxes and compounding old ones as fast as they can.

I am certain that she intends to govern by the "It's easier to beg forgivness later than ask permission in advance" adage. If she stays there will be an income tax. To "make it fair", it will be accompanied by an increase in the B&O, both in rate and scope.

30 posted on 01/29/2005 6:43:32 AM PST by 4woodenboats (I see Dead People - and they're voting in Seattle!! Rossi in 2005!)
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