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Posted on 01/28/2005 4:28:41 PM PST by metacognative

Panicked Evolutionists: The Stephen Meyer Controversy

The theory of evolution is a tottering house of ideological cards that is more about cherished mythology than honest intellectual endeavor. Evolutionists treat their cherished theory like a fragile object of veneration and worship--and so it is. Panic is a sure sign of intellectual insecurity, and evolutionists have every reason to be insecure, for their theory is falling apart.

The latest evidence of this panic comes in a controversy that followed a highly specialized article published in an even more specialized scientific journal. Stephen C. Meyer, Director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture, wrote an article accepted for publication in Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington. The article, entitled "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," was published after three independent judges deemed it worthy and ready for publication. The use of such judges is standard operating procedure among "peer-reviewed" academic journals, and is considered the gold standard for academic publication.

The readership for such a journal is incredibly small, and the Biological Society of Washington does not commonly come to the attention of the nation's journalists and the general public. Nevertheless, soon after Dr. Meyer's article appeared, the self-appointed protectors of Darwinism went into full apoplexy. Internet websites and scientific newsletters came alive with outrage and embarrassment, for Dr. Meyer's article suggested that evolution just might not be the best explanation for the development of life forms. The ensuing controversy was greater than might be expected if Dr. Meyer had argued that the world is flat or that hot is cold.

Eugenie C. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, told The Scientist that Dr. Meyer's article came to her attention when members of the Biological Society of Washington contacted her office. "Many members of the society were stunned about the article," she told The Scientist, and she described the article as "recycled material quite common in the intelligent design community." Dr. Scott, a well known and ardent defender of evolutionary theory, called Dr. Meyer's article "substandard science" and argued that the article should never have been published in any scientific journal.

Within days, the Biological Society of Washington, intimidated by the response of the evolutionary defenders, released a statement apologizing for the publication of the article. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education, the society's governing council claimed that the article "was published without the prior knowledge of the council." The statement went on to declare: "We have met and determined that all of us would have deemed this paper inappropriate for the pages of the Proceedings." The society's president, Roy W. McDiarmid, a scientist at the U.S. Geological Survey, blamed the article's publication on the journal's previous editor, Richard Sternberg, who now serves as a fellow at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institute of Health. "My conclusion on this," McDiarmid said, "was that it was a really bad judgment call on the editor's part."

What is it about Dr. Stephen Meyer's paper that has caused such an uproar? Meyer, who holds a Ph.D. from Cambridge University, argued in his paper that the contemporary form of evolutionary theory now dominant in the academy, known as "Neo-Darwinism," fails to account for the development of higher life forms and the complexity of living organisms. Pointing to what evolutionists identify as the "Cambrian explosion," Meyer argued that "the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans" cannot be accounted for by Darwinian theory, "neo" or otherwise.

Accepting the scientific claim that the Cambrian explosion took place "about 530 million years ago," Meyer went on to explain that the "remarkable jump in the specified complexity or 'complex specified information' [CSI] of the biological world" cannot be explained by evolutionary theory.

The heart of Dr. Meyer's argument is found in this scientifically-loaded passage: "Neo-Darwinism seeks to explain the origin of new information, form, and structure as a result of selection acting on randomly arising variation at a very low level within the biological hierarchy, mainly, within the genetic text. Yet the major morphological innovations depend on a specificity of arrangement at a much higher level of the organizational hierarchy, a level that DNA alone does not determine. Yet if DNA is not wholly responsible for body plan morphogenesis, then DNA sequences can mutate indefinitely, without regard to realistic probabilistic limits, and still not produce a new body plan. Thus, the mechanism of natural selection acting on random mutations in DNA cannot in principle generate novel body plans, including those that first arose in the Cambrian explosion."

In simpler terms, the mechanism of natural selection, central to evolutionary theory, cannot possibly account for the development of so many varied and complex life forms simply by mutations in DNA. Rather, some conscious design--thus requiring a Designer--is necessary to explain the emergence of these life forms.

In the remainder of his paper, Meyer attacks the intellectual inadequacies of evolutionary theory and argues for what is now known as the "design Hypothesis." As he argued, "Conscious and rational agents have, as a part of their powers of purposive intelligence, the capacity to design information-rich parts and to organize those parts into functional information-rich systems and hierarchies." As he went on to assert, "We know of no other causal entity or process that has this capacity." In other words, the development of the multitude of higher life forms found on the planet can be explained only by the guidance of a rational agent--a Designer--whose plan is evident in the design.

Meyer's article was enough to cause hysteria in the evolutionists' camp. Knowing that their theory lacks intellectual credibility, the evolutionists respond by raising the volume, offering the equivalent of scientific shrieks and screams whenever their cherished theory is criticized--much less in one of their own cherished journals. As Dr. John West, Associate Director of the Discovery Institute explained, "Instead of addressing the paper's argument or inviting counterarguments or rebuttal, the society has resorted to affirming what amounts to a doctrinal statement in an effort to stifle scientific debate. They're trying to stop scientific discussion before it even starts."

When the Biological Society of Washington issued its embarrassing apology for publishing the paper, the organization pledged that arguments for Intelligent Design "will not be addressed in future issues of the Proceedings," regardless of whether the paper passes peer review.

From the perspective of panicked evolutionists, the Intelligent Design movement represents a formidable adversary and a constant irritant. The defenders of Intelligent Design are undermining evolutionary theory at multiple levels, and they refuse to go away. The panicked evolutionists respond with name-calling, labeling Intelligent Design proponents as "creationists," thereby hoping to prevent any scientific debate before it starts.

Intelligent Design is not tantamount to the biblical doctrine of creation. Theologically, Intelligent Design falls far short of requiring any affirmation of the doctrine of creation as revealed in the Bible. Nevertheless, it is a useful and important intellectual tool, and a scientific movement with great promise. The real significance of Intelligent Design theory and its related movement is the success with which it undermines the materialistic and naturalistic worldview central to the theory of evolution.

For the Christian believer, the Bible presents the compelling and authoritative case for God's creation of the cosmos. Specifically, the Bible provides us with the ultimate truth concerning human origins and the special creation of human beings as the creatures made in God's own image. Thus, though we believe in more than Intelligent Design, we certainly do not believe in less. We should celebrate the confusion and consternation now so evident among the evolutionists. Dr. Stephen Meyer's article--and the controversy it has spawned--has caught evolutionary scientists with their intellectual pants down.

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R. Albert Mohler, Jr


TOPICS: Philosophy
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To: general_re
I do not understand your need for the...intellectual honesty you put forth.

Dang, I almost missed that when I skimmed the thread ;^D

561 posted on 01/30/2005 10:53:40 AM PST by BMCDA
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To: general_re
I do not understand your need for the...intellectual honesty you put forth.

Yes but you immediately knew it was a typo and should be lack of intellectual honesty or intellectual dishonesty.

562 posted on 01/30/2005 11:06:14 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Ichneumon
That's like "studying" geopolitics by watching all of Michael Moore's movies.

Classic.

563 posted on 01/30/2005 11:07:33 AM PST by RightWingNilla
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To: Ichneumon
If you ever find something resembling a "darwinite religion",

You are really that unself-aware?

You are the living breathing embodiment of it here on these threads.

564 posted on 01/30/2005 11:08:30 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: mississippi red-neck
They take a theory which is nothing more than an opinion with some fancy Ph d's or H2o4's tacked on the guy who uttered it and promote it as scientific established fact.

Proof that you are all about bearing false witness on a lot of good people and NOT about truth and honesty. Why are some Christians so evil. I thought your religion taught otherwise.

565 posted on 01/30/2005 11:12:27 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Uh, you must have missed the post where the mom you supported said her kid was smarter than the scientists ...

And that provoked the passion of the person who sent me a 6 page answer complete with the links, mostly broken, to the proof of evolution? I never said I was against the science or that I did not accept it. Actually, I never saw the post that contained a passage that you reference either. I stand by my statement. Aditionally, I am uncertain why you feel the need to start a dialogue concerning my question concerning a comment made by someone other than yourself.

566 posted on 01/30/2005 11:20:40 AM PST by SpeakingUp
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To: js1138

See what I mean, you darwinuts don't care to discuss the modern scintific problems with evolution. It's all religion and denigration.


567 posted on 01/30/2005 11:29:35 AM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative
See what I mean, you darwinuts don't care to discuss the modern scintific problems with evolution. It's all religion and denigration.

You don't think it's significnt that one of your top sources works for a man who claims to be the second coming of Jesus?

568 posted on 01/30/2005 11:38:28 AM PST by js1138
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To: Aquinasfan
From your link: "While some pictures are staged many are not."

Ooh. Aah. Out-of-context quote-mining as an excuse not to have to actually deal with the rest of the material. How typically creationist.

Son, just how stupid do you think the lurkers are? Do you really think they won't notice how dishonest you're being by failing to address the rest of that discussion?, or that they won't notice how you're utterly unable or unwilling to address the fact that the material as a whole shows that your earlier accusation was entirely off base and groundless? Here it is *again* -- maybe you'll get a clue *this* time:

Now, if you'll bother to try to wrap your head around more than one sentence at a time, do you have any actual gripe with the ENTIRE POINT and not just one fragment of it yanked out of context? Yes or no.
569 posted on 01/30/2005 11:42:05 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon; momincombatboots; K4Harty; Strategerist; WildTurkey; Joe Bonforte; rdb3; bondserv; ...
. . . it turns off large numbers of potential Republican voters . . .

It is not the part of a free people to discard matters of reason or faith for the sake of political expedience, or out of a concern for what other people think. If this is the motivation behind those who promote the philosophy of evolution as a necessity in the basic science classroom, then they may kindly take their position next to that of the Taliban.

Meanwhile there is no such thing as a "theory of evolution." There are not enough scientific facts to back it up. What you have is a philosophy couched in scientific terms, for it is nothing more than a hopeful recapitulation of history that is not, and cannot be, the object of empirical science. Even a little child knows that just because two things look the same they do not necessarily have a common source. Evolution, insofar as it attempts to tell history beyond what has been recorded by man, does not deserve to have the word "theory" associated with it.

Educated fools are nothing new. Let them keep their philosphies in a classroom of their own so the curious can partake as they wish, but please do not consider the rest of the world stupid for rejecting the charade.

571 posted on 01/30/2005 12:46:35 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Ichneumon

They glued the moths to the trees. That's pretty funny.


572 posted on 01/30/2005 1:04:29 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Ichneumon
Second Thoughts about Peppered Moths

When biologists looked beyond Birmingham and Dorset, where Kettlewell had conducted his experiments, they found discrepancies between Kettlewell's theory and the actual geographical distribution of melanic moths. For example, if melanic moths in polluted woodlands enjoyed as much of a selective advantage as Kettlewell's experiments seemed to indicate, then they should have completely replaced typicals in heavily polluted areas such as Manchester (Bishop and Cook 1980, Mani 1990). This never happened, however, indicating that factors other than selective predation must be affecting melanic frequencies...

After the passage of anti-pollution legislation, the proportion of melanics decreased north of London (as expected), but inexplicably increased to the south (Bishop and Cook 1980; Jones 1982). In The Netherlands, the decline of melanism took another twist. As air pollution declined, not only did the frequency of typicals increase, but also the frequency of an intermediate form which was almost as dark as melanics, suggesting a more complex change than was seen in Britain (Brakefield 1990).

Can you understand why people like me are leary of dogmatic evolutionists?
573 posted on 01/30/2005 1:17:18 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: grey_whiskers
"My Oberon! What visions I have seen! Methought I was enamoured of an ass."

bahahahahaha!!! Good thing I wasn't drinking coffee, or you'd owe me a keyboard...

574 posted on 01/30/2005 1:19:08 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Educated fools are nothing new.

I heard a speaker, Dr. Jerry Bergman, who pointed out that WWII era Germany had the most PHDs per capita.

575 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:13 PM PST by Dataman
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To: Aquinasfan
They glued the moths to the trees. That's pretty funny.

Since you didn't answer it -- and chose to just repeat your earlier blockheaded mistake -- I repeat the question, Beavis:

"Now, if you'll bother to try to wrap your head around more than one sentence at a time, do you have any actual gripe with the ENTIRE POINT and not just one fragment of it yanked out of context? Yes or no."
(Readers are invited to observe and assess the level of reading comprhension, intellectual honesty, ability to maintain focus, and argument complexity of the anti-evolutionist in his native habitat...)
576 posted on 01/30/2005 1:20:42 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: js1138

Dawkins is an aggressive atheist who scorns spirituality.
Dennet wants creationist concentration camps.
I'm OK with Well's evidence.


577 posted on 01/30/2005 1:23:53 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Ninety percent of americans are "creationist".
A small minority of 'darwinuts' think they have established religion [and federal grant money]


578 posted on 01/30/2005 1:26:21 PM PST by metacognative (follow the gravy...)
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To: metacognative
Only about a third of Americans believe that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution is a scientific theory that has been well supported by the evidence, while just as many say that it is just one of many theories and has not been supported by the evidence. The rest say they don't know enough to say. Forty-five percent of Americans also believe that God created human beings pretty much in their present form about 10,000 years ago. A third of Americans are biblical literalists who believe that the Bible is the actual word of God and is to be taken literally, word for word.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14107

579 posted on 01/30/2005 1:30:16 PM PST by neutrality
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To: metacognative

Also, I estimate 95+% of the people polled don't even know enough about evolution to even draw any conclusions.


580 posted on 01/30/2005 1:33:52 PM PST by neutrality
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