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Group cites Saudi 'hate' tracts
Washington Times ^ | 1/29/05 | Katherine Clad

Posted on 01/29/2005 1:09:45 AM PST by kattracks

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To: TexasCowboy
That chaingun on the Cobra is awesome!

I realize the guys were wearing night goggles, but how could they 'hover' like that without those idiots hearing or seeing them?

That WAS taken from a chopper, right? But a chopper would be heard. What was it taken from. I sure am curious!!!

41 posted on 01/29/2005 4:56:49 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion
It was taken from a 'Cobra' attack helicopter.


42 posted on 01/29/2005 5:02:40 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: SheLion; Happy2BMe; usmcobra
"but how could they 'hover' like that without those idiots hearing or seeing them?"

Hon, I'm an old grunt.
I know combat tatics on the ground, but those heli guys live in a different world. I pinged a guy who will know.
I'd like to know myself.

43 posted on 01/29/2005 5:13:19 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: Happy2BMe; SheLion; river rat; TexasCowboy; Eaker; SJackson; blackie; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; ...

44 posted on 01/29/2005 5:13:57 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Those are the vermin I'd like to see in front of a chaingun.


45 posted on 01/29/2005 5:16:31 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: kattracks

Whenever the showdown with Iran takes place, ridding the world of two nests of rats is better then just one.


46 posted on 01/29/2005 7:59:30 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: Happy2BMe
It says of Muslims who accept Judaism or Christianity: "If you do not repent, you are an apostate and you should be killed because you have denied the Koran."

That's right: (I finally found the quotes from the Koran)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-) "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)


47 posted on 01/29/2005 11:27:52 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: eagle free

While Iran is the biggest threat for stability in the middle east...the Saudis are the biggest threat to stability in the free world. Their brand of religion...and cash...makes for a major problem.


48 posted on 01/29/2005 11:34:50 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: PhilDragoo; Smartass; Happy2BMe; devolve; Grampa Dave
Wow. Perfect, Phil. Just perfect. Make them hang from the highest tree!

Better yet ..... off with THEIR heads!


49 posted on 01/30/2005 5:08:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Death To all islamofascist terrorists!


50 posted on 01/30/2005 7:17:58 AM PST by blackie
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To: river rat
Until we have created smoldering cities throughout Saudi Arabia....the bastards will continue to teach and practice terror..

That day will come.

Islam is Nazism without the fashion sense.

51 posted on 01/30/2005 7:19:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (Running around in a circle waving my arms and screaming like a little girl)
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To: TexasCowboy
"Those are the vermin I'd like to see in front of a chaingun."

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Wouldn't that be a little too kind?


52 posted on 01/30/2005 7:54:42 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

You looked those up yourself?


53 posted on 01/30/2005 7:55:28 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Yes, it would, Happy.

I know of no fitting punishment, but we can start by chopping off their heads.

54 posted on 01/30/2005 8:09:39 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: TexasCowboy
Actually, the Koran prescribes quite brutal and hedonistic torture right within it's contents.

It was common for Muslims to castrate, then disembowel, then cut off feet and hands and leave whatever was left to die (as they gleefully watched).

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The Sacred Muslim Practice of Beheading

By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 13, 2004 Reactions to the grotesque jihadist decapitation of yet another "infidel Jew," Mr. Berg, make clear that our intelligentsia are either dangerously uninformed, or simply unwilling to come to terms with this ugly reality: such murders are consistent with sacred jihad practices, as well as Islamic attitudes towards all non-Muslim infidels, in particular, Jews, which date back to the 7th century, and the Prophet Muhammad's own example.

According to Muhammad’s sacralized biography by Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad himself sanctioned the massacre of the Qurayza, a vanquished Jewish tribe. He appointed an "arbiter" who soon rendered this concise verdict: the men were to be put to death, the women and children sold into slavery, the spoils to be divided among the Muslims. Muhammad ratified this judgment stating that it was a decree of God pronounced from above the Seven Heavens. Thus some 600 to 900 men from the Qurayza were lead on Muhammad’s order to the Market of Medina. Trenches were dug and the men were beheaded, and their decapitated corpses buried in the trenches while Muhammad watched in attendance. Women and children were sold into slavery, a number of them being distributed as gifts among Muhammad’s companions, and Muhammad chose one of the Qurayza women (Rayhana) for himself. The Qurayza’s property and other possessions (including weapons) were also divided up as additional "booty" among the Muslims, to support further jihad campaigns.

The classical Muslim jurist al-Mawardi (a Shafi’ite jurist, d. 1058) from Baghdad was a seminal, prolific scholar who lived during the so-called Islamic "Golden Age" of the Abbasid-Baghdadian Caliphate. He wrote the following, based on widely accepted interpretations of the Qur'an and Sunna (i.e., the recorded words and deeds of Muhammad), regarding infidel prisoners of jihad campaigns:

“As for the captives, the amir [ruler] has the choice of taking the most beneficial action of four possibilities: the first to put them to death by cutting their necks; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws of slavery regarding their sale and manumission; the third, to ransom them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to them and pardon them. Allah, may he be exalted, says, 'When you encounter those [infidels] who deny [the Truth=Islam] then strike [their] necks' (Qur'an sura 47, verse 4)”....Abu’l-Hasan al-Mawardi, al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah." [The Laws of Islamic Governance, trans. by Dr. Asadullah Yate, (London), Ta-Ha Publishers Ltd., 1996, p. 192. Emphasis added.]

Indeed such odious “rules” were iterated by all four classical schools of Islamic jurisprudence, across the vast Muslim empire.

For centuries, from the Iberian peninsula to the Indian subcontinent, jihad campaigns waged by Muslim armies against infidel Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians, Buddhists and Hindus, were punctuated by massacres, including mass throat slittings and beheadings. During the period of “enlightened” Muslim rule, the Christians of Iberian Toledo, who had first submitted to their Arab Muslim invaders in 711 or 712, revolted in 713. In the harsh Muslim reprisal that ensued, Toledo was pillaged, and all the Christian notables had their throats cut. On the Indian subcontinent, Babur (1483-1530), the founder of the Mughal Empire, who is revered as a paragon of Muslim tolerance by modern revisionist historians, recorded the following in his autobiographical “Baburnama,” about infidel prisoners of a jihad campaign:

"Those who were brought in alive [having surrendered] were ordered beheaded, after which a tower of skulls was erected in the camp." [The Baburnama -Memoirs of Babur, Prince and Emperor, translated and edited by Wheeler M. Thacktson, Oxford University Press,1996, p. 188. Emphasis added.]

Recent jihad-inspired decapitations of infidels by Muslims have occurred across the globe- Christians in Indonesia, the Philippines, and Nigeria; Hindu priests and "unveiled" Hindu women in Kashmir; Wall Street Journal reporter, and Jew, Daniel Pearl. We should not be surprised that these contemporary paroxysms of jihad violence are accompanied by ritualized beheadings. Such gruesome acts are in fact sanctioned by core Islamic sacred texts, and classical Muslim jurisprudence. Empty claims that jihad decapitations are somehow "alien to true Islam," however well-intentioned, undermine serious efforts to reform and desacralize Islamic doctrine. This process will only begin with frank discussion, both between non-Muslims and Muslims, and within the Muslim community.

55 posted on 01/30/2005 8:17:45 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Why is it that we can read and see clearly the utter evil nature of muhammed (may pigs pee in his guts), but the muzzie community cannot!

What is it with these people?
What is it with the muzzie sympathizers, both in the general population and here on FR?
All they have to do is READ!

For a muzzie to say that he/she believes in the Quran, but not the parts about blood and slaughter is like a Christian saying he/she believes in the Bible except those parts about Jesus Christ!

56 posted on 01/30/2005 8:53:00 AM PST by TexasCowboy (Ignorance is temporary and correctible; stupidity is voluntary and permanent)
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To: TexasCowboy
Why is it?

uh - hum . . you do know that lying to, stealing from, manipulating, and contriving against INFIDELS is a COMMAND to Muslims, right?

57 posted on 01/30/2005 9:12:18 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Lazamataz
"That day will come."

On that day, I will be convinced that our Republic and Western Civilization is serious about surviving...

Semper Fi

58 posted on 01/30/2005 10:02:23 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Salem

Ping!


59 posted on 01/31/2005 7:47:14 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Ping!


60 posted on 01/31/2005 7:49:25 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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