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Cold War Certificate (Are you a Cold War Veteran?)
U.S. Army ^ | Jan 29, 2005 | gobucks

Posted on 01/29/2005 3:31:59 AM PST by gobucks

Figured that a few Cold War vets should know about this.

*snip* Is this for real?

* Yes. In the 1998 National Defense Authorization Act, the Secretary of Defense approved awarding Cold War Recognition Certificates to all members of the armed forces and qualified federal government civilian personnel who faithfully and honorably served the United States any time during the Cold War era, Sept. 2, 1945, through Dec. 26, 1991.

* Applicants must certify that their service was "faithful and honorable", and they must supply a copy of a supporting document which proves that they served during the Cold War era. The certificate may be awarded posthumously to those whose relatives apply on their behalf.

* There is no charge for a Cold War Recognition Certificate. Note that no medal has been authorized or issued for Cold War Recognition.

* The program is scheduled to run for 10 years, so there is plenty of time to send in your request and supporting document.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; coldwarvets; communism
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To: Larry Lucido

Don't know, but I think so...


51 posted on 01/29/2005 7:28:56 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks
Thanks for the post.

I remember when this was announced, and maybe I should apply now. I didn't back then because I didn't wish to have a crap weasel signature of William Cohen (or was it William J. Perry?) hanging ANYWHERE on a wall of mine.

Donald Rumsfeld's signature might have a similar effect on visiting liberals and that would be cool. ;)

United States Air Force, Nov 1972 - Aug 1993

52 posted on 01/29/2005 7:32:14 AM PST by kAcknor (That's my version of it anyway....)
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To: gobucks

That's a good one. I fairly-regularly throw it in the face of lefties.

The detailed spreadsheet *.gif that's in a link on that page, is pretty amazing.


53 posted on 01/29/2005 7:36:34 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: bad company
..."but that flag! That's going to end up in my gun room for sure."

Gun Room? I love it!

54 posted on 01/29/2005 7:38:09 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: larryjohnson

You are quite welcome


55 posted on 01/29/2005 7:39:07 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks
Gun Room? I love it!

Gotta love a woman that'll let you have a gun room.

56 posted on 01/29/2005 7:41:07 AM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)
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To: Professional Engineer

I am USMC 1979-1985 [first tour]

I filed for my cret. but never recieved it! I am still upset about it too.


57 posted on 01/29/2005 7:42:43 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: edfrank_1998
Thanks for the report. Here are some of those crosses (and, interestingly, they are crosses, not plaques)

from Web Page History of Berlin Wall.

58 posted on 01/29/2005 7:45:03 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: TMSuchman

I forgot about adding my second tour.
June 1995-July 1999 also USMC.

I was a desert rat. I was stationed in 29 Palms CA [read as the STUMPS!!] and Yuma AZ at Marine Corps Air Station. [baked spud, crash,fire,rescue]


59 posted on 01/29/2005 7:47:18 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: Doohickey

me either ...; but more than a few folks these days scratch their heads and say 'huh?, what was the 'cold war'?

The fact that out of all official gov't recogition for all kinds of conflicts, all that is out there is this certificate, for a decades long bona fide war, it just seemed to me to be .... not appropriate.

And of course, given the make up of so many of the liberal democrats, I started to have suspicions that maybe it was not totally an accident that so little noise is made about this...; (given MY make-up, I guess it is not an accident I bother to pay attention ... but sub service can mess with your sleep and coffee habits :) )


60 posted on 01/29/2005 7:49:36 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks

I got mine about a year ago. The idiots spelled my name wrong.


61 posted on 01/29/2005 7:52:36 AM PST by jackbill
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To: LibKill

LOL! Thanks for the story!!


62 posted on 01/29/2005 7:53:33 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: Professional Engineer

In all sincereity, I thank you for your post that started these replies. Ain't nothing hijacked here...

Me: USN, 81 - 87. Gold Crew.


63 posted on 01/29/2005 7:55:08 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: gobucks; carlo3b; gonzo; redrock

US Army 1974-1976


64 posted on 01/29/2005 7:57:05 AM PST by jellybean (Free Ol' Crusty!)
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To: gobucks

Bump


65 posted on 01/29/2005 8:02:45 AM PST by LouD (Consensus is like blended scotch; You could drink it, but what's the damned point?)
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To: Professional Engineer
AIR FORCE! You know the smart ones.
Highly qualified aerospace weapons systems security technician. oink oink
66 posted on 01/29/2005 8:04:17 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: jackbill

The idiots spelled my name wrong.

LOL, sorry for laughing but that's just like the DOD. :-)


67 posted on 01/29/2005 8:06:49 AM PST by Valin (Sometimes you're the bug, and sometimes you're the windshield)
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To: bad company

Those are some slick looking "darts" you have. Sweeet!


68 posted on 01/29/2005 8:15:01 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: kAcknor
Donald Rumsfeld's signature might have a similar effect on visiting liberals and that would be cool. ;)

Heh heh heh GMTA, I had the same reaction.

69 posted on 01/29/2005 8:17:21 AM PST by Professional Engineer (The number exactly halfway between +1 and -1 is not "OH".)
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To: gobucks

Something that I learned about a year ago is that there have been a lot of "medals" issued over the years that many veterans are not aware of.

For instance, my DD-214 lists four "medals" from my two years in the Army during the Korean War. In researching, I found that I am now qualified for five additional ones, in addition to the Cold War Certificate. They are:

ROK Korean War Service Medal - issued by the ROK and qualified people can get the actual medal - for free.

Cold War Victory Commemorative Medal

Overseas Service Commemorative Medal

Combat Service Commemorative Medal

US Army Commemorative Medal


70 posted on 01/29/2005 8:26:17 AM PST by jackbill
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To: gobucks

I refused to pursue this when they first came out because the signatures were of the clinton administration.

Nowadays it might be different.

But the bottom line is that most people really don't give a rip what you did in the Cold War.

Cold Warrier 1977-1992, FRG nearly 6 years.


71 posted on 01/29/2005 8:34:16 AM PST by Eagle Eye (3/5 Got theirs. And then some.)
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To: gobucks

Don't get me wrong; I'm not against it all. I dunno...maybe I'm sort of lukewarm to it because I can't tell anybody how I got my MUC, NUC and Expeditionary medal :)


72 posted on 01/29/2005 9:40:00 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.)
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To: larryjohnson

Yep, LJ, I'm a cold war vet. Hubby (Turbojet) is one too. ~~~~~salute~~~~~

We are iced in down here. How's Maine?


73 posted on 01/29/2005 11:05:59 AM PST by Jen
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To: Marinefamilyx3

**Hubby actually waited until after Clinton was gone to retire. He refused to have that signature on his retirement certificate.**

I hear that!...my husband hated receiving the certificate with Clintoon's name on it and returned it with a "not so nice" note telling Bill where he could shove it!


74 posted on 01/29/2005 11:11:32 AM PST by gljones (Semper Fi USMC 1979-1985 dh USMC Retired 1976-1997)
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To: EricT.

US Army, 1966-1995


75 posted on 01/29/2005 11:40:37 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: jackbill
For those who got out before it was issued but were there, the Kuwait Liberation Medal is also available.
76 posted on 01/29/2005 2:26:13 PM PST by Tarpaulin (Look it up.)
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To: Cornpone

Thought you'd be interested in this.


77 posted on 01/29/2005 2:35:01 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mike1sg

This includes you.


78 posted on 01/29/2005 2:36:44 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mystery-ak
Thanks a lot. I'll have to check it out. If its legit it'll make splitting the 'I love me' wall art between the kids easier when the time comes...assuming I can still find it:-)
79 posted on 01/29/2005 2:42:54 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: EricT.

U.S. Navy 1976-1997


80 posted on 01/29/2005 2:56:47 PM PST by stbdside
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To: Professional Engineer

US Navy 68-70


81 posted on 01/29/2005 3:01:39 PM PST by dljordan
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To: mystery-ak

Appears legit to me. I just filled out my application on line. Its really easy as long as you can print the form.


82 posted on 01/29/2005 3:06:14 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

I sent it to my hubby's address...he's away on Army business...a seminar..titled Army Retention....bet he comes home tomorrow mad..LOL


83 posted on 01/29/2005 3:09:45 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mystery-ak
I can understand that...towards the end of my career they classified the attrition rate because we were losing so many people under Clinton's philosophy of do the impossible with nothing. We cut the force to less than half of what it was when I joined and the ops tempo increased by two and a half times. I had to have my XXXXXX talk to my wife and convince her it wasn't a good idea to call my commanding XXXXX and accuse him of trying to kill me with stupidity.
84 posted on 01/29/2005 3:16:46 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: gobucks

USAF 1964-1968


85 posted on 01/29/2005 3:25:15 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down...)
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To: Cornpone

When Mike left for Iraq they had 23 pilots....one KIA...returned home and 13 of them retired...their wives had had enough....they now have nine with 6 more in flight school, they are still understrengthed. I just don't understand these wives...unless they are using their wives as an excuse.


86 posted on 01/29/2005 3:25:23 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mystery-ak
Its a tough call. When I joined I was told the average time on station over a career for someone with my specialty was 19 months. I averaged less than 16. My last 10 years in we moved 8 times...and that was my second marriage. The RIF wasn't managed very well and it took a terrible toll on families, especially the children. My son never attended the same school two years in row. Its tough to keep coming home to your wife under those conditions.
87 posted on 01/29/2005 3:33:15 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

It's tough and it didn't help being extended 3 times, with each extension promised to be the last. Mike's CO, a major, came home and retired too...Mike was very upset over it, he would have followed him to hell and back(well actually he did....LOL) but his wife threatened divorce and this was his 2nd marriage too..and now he has a new CO he can't stand....oh, well..


88 posted on 01/29/2005 3:45:56 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: mystery-ak
Everybody's situation is different I guess. I retired when I could because I felt like I had already stolen my son's life from my first marriage and I wasn't going to do that with my daughter from the second.

But, here's another story. I have a good friend I made early in my career who decided to get out after he made Captain and his commitment was up but he stayed in the reserves. He was called up during Desert Storm and spent a year in Kuwait and Iraq for that. He was called up again in 2002 and went and put in some infrastructure before Operation Iraqi Freedom. Guess where he is now? Afghanistan.

He could have retired too before his last call up. He flew in from the Midwest on business and we had dinner together one night about three weeks before he had to report for training and deployment. His wife was begging him to retire but he just couldn't do it. He just felt like he couldn't let his young reserve unit guys go alone when he had so much experience to offer. I'm sure this will be his last tour and I know he will put his papers in when he gets back but this guy is a hero. He is the best we have to offer. I just hope his wife is still there when he gets home.

89 posted on 01/29/2005 7:49:27 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

US Army (1986-1994)


90 posted on 01/29/2005 7:54:02 PM PST by DarthDilbert
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To: DarthDilbert

SCANG/USAF ('76-'96)


91 posted on 01/29/2005 8:04:40 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Professional Engineer
These are Hawk missiles. That's what I did when I was in the army.

Ripple two!

92 posted on 01/29/2005 9:52:46 PM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Any of ya'll Cold War vets too? ;-)

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Served with SAC in Bombers (B-1B, B-52), Tankers (KC 135, KC-10) and Missiles (Minuteman 3 and Peacekeeper)

I've touched a nuclear weapon with my bare hand. It's seductive and erotic, like touching a beautiful woman's thigh, but disappointing like when her mother walks into the room.

93 posted on 01/30/2005 1:51:18 PM PST by CholeraJoe (On the third day, the Lord invented the Remington bolt action rifle so that man could hunt dinosaurs)
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To: CholeraJoe
...like when her mother walks into the room.

LOL.

94 posted on 01/30/2005 6:22:34 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: dljordan

1971-1991 USCG Active
1991-present Gen. Dyn. contractor teachin' USCG Cadets

Still doin' it for G, C, & F 'til the day I die, so help me G.


95 posted on 01/30/2005 6:36:52 PM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: bad company
Ripple two!

I soooo jealous!

96 posted on 01/30/2005 7:47:49 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Caution this poster contains 39 Transistors, 78 diodes, and 1776 blown capacitors.)
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To: CholeraJoe
It's seductive and erotic, like touching a beautiful woman's thigh, but disappointing like when her mother walks into the room.

Wow, you've got a way with words. Are you sure you're a physician, and not some kind of starving artist?

97 posted on 01/30/2005 7:49:47 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Caution this poster contains 39 Transistors, 78 diodes, and 1776 blown capacitors.)
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To: gobucks

National Guard is included too. My dad has one for service in the NG.


98 posted on 01/30/2005 7:52:05 PM PST by kms61
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To: Professional Engineer
I soooo jealous!

When our unit went to Crete for a live fire, the other Fire control operators junction box failed so I was the one that got to push the button and fire a missile. The other guy picked a fight with me later that night he was so mad.

99 posted on 01/30/2005 8:17:39 PM PST by bad company (if guns cause crime, then keyboards cause spelling mistakes)
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To: gobucks

There is an on-going e-petition for a Cold War Service Medal at http://www.petitiononline.com/pfcmongo/petition.html .

Please, everyone sign and circulate this petition if correct for you to do so.

This 100% Permanent-total Service-connected Disabled American Veteran thanks you for your service. Semper Fidelis.

PFC USMC Infantry-Scout/Sniper W Africa-S America-Mediterranean-Iran Hostage Crisis Alert 1976-80

Also served PFC NY Army NG Heavy Vehicle Recovery '82-'83 - Spec4 ID Army NG Combat Engineer '85-'86 - SSGT WA Air NG Ground Equipment Technician NATO W Germany-Bahamas Interdiction '86-'89 - SSGT USAFR Active C-141B Loadmaster Aircrew ConUS-Pacific Rim '89-'90.


100 posted on 03/14/2005 10:46:51 AM PST by PFCMongo
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