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Terminally ill man kills himself, sparks debate on right-to-die issue
National Post ^ | January 29, 2005 | Stephen Thorne

Posted on 01/29/2005 4:14:06 AM PST by Ginifer

OTTAWA (CP) - A sickly Marcel Tremblay consumed two beers, two shrimp and a crab cake at what he called "a living wake" on Friday, then went home and killed himself, sparking a countrywide debate on the right-to-die issue.

The frail, 78-year-old man appeared remarkably non-chalant and upbeat as he prepared to die, saying he was fed up with suffering from a fatal lung disease and hoped that Canadians would debate the issue of assisted suicide. "I'm 110 per cent positive of what I want to do and I'm justified in my thinking of why I want to do it," said Tremblay, his raspy voice sounding firm and confident after a goodbye party with family and friends.

"I want them to debate it, I want them to talk about it."

Tremblay said he would take his own life by pulling a helium-filled bag over his head. He said his family and friends supported his decision.

"That decision, for me, is the right decision," he said. "I feel I'd like to die and that's what I'm going to do.

"To live the way I'm living is not living. It's existing, and there's no reason to continue it day in and day out for any longer than I've already done."

Tremblay's impromptu news conference outside his bungalow was not without its moments of black humour.

He apologized to reporters gathered outside his home for causing them to stake out the residence in sub-zero temperatures, prompting a family member to crack: "You should have done it in July." Tremblay chuckled.

He was also unperturbed by the fact that someone had tinkered with the lock on his front door in an apparent effort to stop him from killing himself.

About 90 minutes later, emergency vehicles started arriving at the house, including three police cars police and two ambulances.

Staff.-Sgt. Monique Ackland emerged a half-hour later.

"The police have done what they could under the Mental Health Act," she said. "Mr. Tremblay was deemed to be mentally stable.

"There was nothing further that police could do unless a physician came forward to say that Mr. Tremblay was mentally ill. That did not happen.

"Tonight, he proceeded with his plan and at 23h51 he was pronounced dead by the doctor."

A woman and her husband came by minutes after Tremblay was declared dead and said that they had just come from a local Roman Catholic Church where the priest had held a prayer vigil for the man.

She said the priest had earlier refused to intervene.

Earlier in the day, Tremblay, a former rooming house owner, said he went public with his plans to kill himself because he wanted people to debate the right to die with dignity.

The stooped, bearded man sat before a phalanx of cameras at his lawyer's office to say that he was ready to die and didn't care who knew it.

He was lucky, he said, because he was still strong enough to tug the bag over his head - his method of choice - and "pull the plug."

Those who don't have that strength are left without a choice, he said, because the law bans assisted suicide.

Tremblay said he no longer found any joy or happiness in life. Even his trips to Syracuse, N.Y., to play poker, one of his favourite pastimes, were impossible.

God and religion hold neither fears nor promise to him, he added.

"We're getting older and they're keeping us alive, dammit," he growled in a low, but firm voice.

Tremblay felt that the law should be changed to allow assisted suicide, said his lawyer, Lawrence Greenspon.

"He is in a position where he can do something," Greenspon said.

"The vast majority of people who suffer terminal illnesses are not in a position where they are physically able to do what he intends to do and that's a very big part of the reason why he's decided to be very public about his intentions."

Tremblay said even groups that support death with dignity don't want to talk about suicide.

"They all say: 'Don't call the police, don't tell anybody, go in the corner and do it."'

"We're never going to get that law changed if everybody does that. I could have done that like everybody else is doing. This is going on all the time but people just don't want to talk about it."

Tremblay said he had a litany of health problems, including back trouble, stomach problems and an incurable and eventually fatal lung condition.

Greenspon, looking decidedly uncomfortable and admitting to moral and ethical qualms about Tremblay's decision, nevertheless said what he planned was perfectly legal. Ottawa police had monitored the case for two weeks.

Justice Minister Irwin Cotler called it a "very tragic situation."

"This is a very, very difficult and painful question about which Canadians have different views. There is no real emergent consensus," he said.

"I cannot as the minister of justice and the attorney general instruct authorities as to what they do in these matters. These are matters that fall within the domain of the provincial administration of justice."

Tremblay said he'd discussed his decision with two psychiatrists before police heard of his plan and took him to the Ottawa Hospital, apparently for another psychiatric evaluation.

He said he spent five hours sitting at the hospital with three policemen watching him, only to have a doctor come in, ask three questions and tell him he was free to go.

At that point, Greenspon said, the police washed their hands of the case.

Since Tremblay wouldn't get any help killing himself, there would be no crime, he said. An unidentified, independent witness would be on hand to confirm no help was given.


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KEYWORDS: suicide
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1 posted on 01/29/2005 4:14:06 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: Ginifer
A Canuck Frog auto-cide. Film at 11.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

2 posted on 01/29/2005 4:18:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Ginifer
Wow, shrinks, cops, hospital....go home. Don't you just love the Socialized med system.

Or th...he wants to kill himself....don't get in his way system.

3 posted on 01/29/2005 4:19:49 AM PST by marty60
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To: Ginifer

If I were termanally ill, in terrible pain, and suffering unbearably, I would end it. I certainly wouldn't ask the politicians in Washington for their opinion.


4 posted on 01/29/2005 4:22:47 AM PST by Savage Beast (My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were Democrats. My children are Republicans.)
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To: marty60
Yeah and the Left approves of death at both ends of the life cycle. That's what it means to be a modern progressive. Its funny coming from folks who think God's a fairy tale.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

5 posted on 01/29/2005 4:22:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The Democrats call would that retroactive abortion and fight for their right to impose it on our seniors.


6 posted on 01/29/2005 4:23:25 AM PST by usmcobra
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To: marty60

I wonder how much all that cost the Canadian tax payers?


7 posted on 01/29/2005 4:24:19 AM PST by Claytay
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To: usmcobra
Amen! Some years ago the then Democratic Governor of Colorado by the name of Lammer suggested it might better if seniors were to give up their lives for the good of society. It sparked an uproar then. Today's considered an entitlement.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

8 posted on 01/29/2005 4:25:30 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Savage Beast
If I were termanally ill, in terrible pain, and suffering unbearably, I would end it

I have absolutely no idea if I would do the same, but I'm with you on keeping the government out of that decision.

9 posted on 01/29/2005 4:26:57 AM PST by Cagey
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To: goldstategop

I like your tag line. I'm finding it hard to deal with the loss of a friend.


10 posted on 01/29/2005 4:26:58 AM PST by marty60
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To: Ginifer
" ... Tremblay said he would take his own life by pulling a helium-filled bag over his head ... "

What's that ... a Canadian thing?

11 posted on 01/29/2005 4:39:45 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Ginifer

"God and religion hold neither fears nor promise to him"


Sad.


12 posted on 01/29/2005 4:40:20 AM PST by joshhiggins
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To: G.Mason
Suffocation? I take it he doesn't have a copy of Derek Humphries' Final Exit. Almost every method of killing oneself is listed in it.

Denny Crane: "I want two things. First God and then Fox News."

13 posted on 01/29/2005 4:46:55 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cagey; Savage Beast
"I have absolutely no idea if I would do the same, but I'm with you on keeping the government out of that decision."

Then it sounds like you’re in agreement with the guy in this article, Marcel Tremblay. He didn’t want the government in it either. It looks like he didn’t ask permission from anyone. He just called a news conference to state his opinions that the government should stay out of it, something that he thought was right, and then did it.

14 posted on 01/29/2005 4:47:35 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Ginifer

The guy has every right to die. No one stopped him. If people want to off themselves that is their business. It is not the states business to help them along.


15 posted on 01/29/2005 4:48:20 AM PST by foolscap
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To: Savage Beast
'If I were termanally ill, in terrible pain, and suffering unbearably, I would end it. I certainly wouldn't ask the politicians in Washington for their opinion."

I have to agree with you, it should be a personal choice and not the choice of the Government to decide whether or not it is right for you. Who besides the person who is contemplating this knows what and how much pain a person can bear? Quality of live versus quantity of life.
16 posted on 01/29/2005 4:48:56 AM PST by Ginifer (Just because you have one doesn't mean you have to act like one!)
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To: G.Mason
What's that...a Canadian thing? I've never heard of it...is that what kills or does that knock you out while something else kills you?
17 posted on 01/29/2005 4:51:14 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: Ginifer

It's against the law to kill yourself in some countries. The penalty is death so lock him up till he rots!


18 posted on 01/29/2005 4:54:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: goldstategop

"Yeah and the Left approves of death at both ends of the life cycle. That's what it means to be a modern progressive. Its funny coming from folks who think God's a fairy tale."

Good comment, goldstategop. You're right.

The man said that God and religion hold neither fears nor promise to him. This shows the sick mindset of a person mired in the depression and hopelessness of atheism. It may not be "called" mental illness, but it is close to the utter despair of such an illness. It is no surprise that this man would so wholeheartedly believe the pronouncements of a human doctor regarding the terminal nature of his lung condition since he refuses to recognize the God of miracles.

But this is more than about his giving up and placing faith in a medical diagnosis, it is about his atheistic fervor in preaching his poisonous and sick message to Canadians. This was an atheist on a suicide mission every bit as harmful as that of a suicide terrorist.

And if I were in that man's situation I'd hope someone had enough love for me to get me some mental help and necessary medication to pull me through. That man's "friends" let him down in the worst way.

When the government fails to protect its citizens in these situations - it comes dangerously close to adhering to the mindset that once embraced Hitler's Germany: people are expendable. How utterly sick that this man's greatest desire in dying was to give others that precise message.


19 posted on 01/29/2005 4:56:19 AM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: JudyinCanada
"I've never heard of it...is that what kills or does that knock you out while something else kills you?"

That's what I was wondering.

I checked out the properties of helium and it appears to be "non-toxic".

As an inert gas, I presume one would suffocate from breathing 100% helium, but why suffocate while alert?

Strange.

20 posted on 01/29/2005 4:56:32 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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