Posted on 01/31/2005 4:41:14 PM PST by newsgatherer
In a contentious debate between myself and some radical 'gays' who support the teaching of the 'gay' lifestyle to children, one of them asked me if and when I had 'chosen' to be heterosexual. "Was it at age 3, 6, 13, 19?" he asked, "Or did you (a female) just 'naturally' gravitate towards boys or men without any outside pressure or force?" This question, laden with implied meaning, is a favorite tactical 'trap' set by 'gays' for unsuspecting and unprepared heterosexuals. It plays upon and manipulates our consciences so as to cause us to feel guilty; it lures us into setting aside logic and reason and calls upon us to be led by emotion; it purposefully lends itself to creating confusion. Its' underlying premise is that 'gay' behavior is the result of 'orientation', a meaningless, nonsensical term meant to fool us into believing in the existence of a hitherto unheard of third gender or race. Thus we are coaxed into concluding that 'gayness' and heterosexuality must be the same and therefore 'gayness' is deserving of 'inclusion, sensitivity, and rights.' This is nothing but a cleverly crafted fable, but to dissent against it is to be guilty of hate, 'homophobia,' bigotry, and racism.
My response, just below, seemingly disarmed them and after calling me a few obligatory names, they quit the debate.
"There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........my gravitation towards the opposite sex occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural 'gravitational' process towards the opposite sex and manhood that, in effect, stunted it in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered ...
(Excerpt) Read more at christian-news-in-maine.com ...
Hi, I like the part about the Duck.
My friend in Kansas email my this. He said Kansas is about to vote on this constitutional amendment.
He ask for help on a poll.
Should the Kansas Constitution be amended to define marriage and civil unions as between one man and one woman only? Poll ends friday.
http://www.hdnews.net/
This headline would be really funny (albeit redundant) in Spanish.
BTTT!
LOL! That's what I thought, too!
For those Freepers not in on the joke, "pato" (duck, in Spanish) is a word used to refer to a gay man.
pato o pato?
OK, go ahead and give it to us in spanish.
Good letter and it looks like a good website starting up.
Good fortune to you folks. I passed the link to a few folks.
Should the Kansas Constitution be amended to define marriage and civil unions as between one man and one woman only?
Yes 61.6% 53
No 37.2% 32
No Opinion 1.2% 1
Even with this argument it still doesn't appear that gays chose to be that way. I do subscribe to this idea though, I would imagine their relationships with their parents would cause them to gravitate towards one sex or the other. But still it isn't a choice they made, they just feel more comfortable around one of their own sex.
I believe that is the point Linda is making here.
Hey, thank you, we appreciate it.
Thank you. I vote yes.
I had some friends in Denver that raised rabbits and Pekinese dogs for sale. Both were allowed out in their large fenced backyard. Everyone of their puppies would start to run and then end up hopping across the yard after about one or two steps. One of the funniest things I ever saw. The dogs hopped like bunnies when they ran for the rest of their lives.
I like the duck analogy. I'll have to use it next time I talk to one of my crazy liberal friends (few and far between- can't stand talking to most liberals.)
Patos y patos? LOL!
Voted
R: Un pato!
Since "pato" is the Spanish word for "duck" (the bird, not the verb), and since "pato" is also a slang term for a male homosexual, the article's name in Spanish, "Sobre los patos y la homosexualidad," would sound rather redundant.
So is dropping the soap in the shower.
:-)
HA!HA!..Thanks, for those of us, who don't know Spanish/Mexican. :))
ping
They quit the debate because they realized they were dealing with a moron.
Believe me, no one was "disarmed" by the author's comparing homosexuality to a duckling "imprinting" on a human, rendering it forever "stunted" in its growth to mature duckhood.
Of course, this could be intended as satire on imbecile arguments, in which case forgive me for not getting the humor right away.
***"There was no 'choice'........there was never any question........my gravitation towards the opposite sex occured as naturally as breathing air. Now for yourself, 'something' occured that interfered with your natural 'gravitational' process towards the opposite sex and manhood that, in effect, stunted it in much the same way as a baby duck can have its natural progression towards becoming a mature duck interfered ...***
During research at a local university library I came upon an interesting story.
During WW11 doctors examined a rather "strange" soldier who was NOT homosexual. He had been born so far back in the hills that he had never seen a woman. His mother died when he was born. He only lived around MEN yet was not homo.
When, after he was drafted, he saw women he was not affected in any way, yet he WAS turned on when he saw a cow.
No more needs to be said yet this is a true story. I just wish I remembered what book it was in.
Maine: Where the men are men and ducks are scared.
Who among us hasn't at some point in our lives had the desire to kill? Yet if that desire alone - and not our behavior - defined us as killers, our jails would be awfully crowded.
"They quit the debate because they realized they were dealing with a moron."
Hmm, Just as the author described. You respond to the argument with insults, then retreat.
It is common sense that people who are not attracted to members of the opposite sex but are attracted to the same sex have a serious disorder (even if they don't recognize it.) They shouldn't be discriminated against but neither should it be celebrated or considered normal.
I told him I thought homosexuality was aberrant behavior. Stopped him cold.
It has crossed my mind that the increase in homosexual men and lesbian women has been greater since the advent of easy divorce and the children being almost invariably awarded to the mother. After the exit of the father, there is no longer a strong masculine presence in the family which acts as a role model for the boy children and proposes a feminine attribute to the girl children. To put it more simply, "As the twig is bent, so is the tree inclined."
"A sodomite got very excited looking at a zoology text. Does this make it pornography?" (Stanislaw Lec) "Unkempt Thoughts"
As a student of history, it has occurred to me that there has never been a civilizaton that accepted homosexuality as normal that did not fail shortly thereafter. Athens did and so did Rome. This may be a coincidence and is not to say that other factors were not predominant, but still....."Roman matrons used to say to their sons: 'Come back with your shield, or on it.' Later on,this custom declined. So did Rome." (R.A. Heinlein)
Quacko's y Wackos???? Do they have Ducks at Neverland Ranch?
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snip...Believe me, no one was "disarmed" by the author's comparing homosexuality to a duckling "imprinting" on a human, rendering it forever "stunted" in its growth to mature duckhood.
Unless you were there, then your words are nothing but resentment-laced hot air. And if you're unable to speak the truth, then don't speculate. Had you been among the cadre of activist 'gays' in that thread, then believe me......you were disarmed.
Your name calling, makes you irrelevant.
Thank you,
Interesting, I would like to see that study, not becasue I doubt your word, I don't, but, I would like to read the conclussions.
In both instances the answer is The word of God and His Word. IE, the Bible and Christ.
We agree.
Jake
And, even if they were, would anyone argue that they should be granted minority status as a result?
People are born with birth defects. I don't claim that psychopathic behaviors or homosexuality are birth defects, but just because someone is born with a trait doesn't mean we leave that trait "untreated."
Shalom.
If they thought the speaker was a moron they don't understand homosexuality. If you buy the 'when did you decide to become heterosexual' trap then you might need to study the issue more.
Shalom.
snip.....QA: Yet do they really want to argue that serial killers are born as serial killers and are not serial killers as a result of their upbringing?
Brother A. & brother B. grow up in a terribly dysfunctional home. Both brothers experience the same conditions. A. goes on to become a serial killer, B. doesn't. Why? Because A. gives into 'impulse' while B. is in control of his impulses.
Some boys are sexually abused but never become 'gay', while others are abused and do become 'gay'.
Lack of impulse control coupled with a need for self-gratification, selfcentered 'neediness' (if you loved me you would do, give, understand, etc., etc., etc), and rebellion against authority leads to trouble every time.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that 'gays' fit the preceding description.
Please publish the URLs to the links posted in reply 37 - we need to get the information out to as many people as possible.
More documentation is in process and will be posted in the coming weeks and months.
Pato Donald?
Lack of impulse control coupled with a need for self-gratification, selfcentered 'neediness' (if you loved me you would do, give, understand, etc., etc., etc), and rebellion against authority leads to trouble every time.
It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that 'gays' fit the preceding description.
Documented here: "What Homosexuals Say About Homosexuals - Is This Gay Behavior Sick?"
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