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Is Yahweh punishing the enemies of Israel with natural disasters?

Posted on 02/01/2005 5:38:05 AM PST by BlackJack

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1 posted on 02/01/2005 5:38:06 AM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
God Fails to Break His Own Record for Killing


2 posted on 02/01/2005 5:42:42 AM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: BlackJack
I was lying in bed thinking about articles I had read concerning the recent tsunami in the Indian Ocean. I remembered reading that a village of thousands of Hindus that should have been wiped out was spared because a village elder had instructed years ago that hundreds of trees had to be planted along the coast for religious reasons. Those trees miraculously spared the village and not one Hindu was drowned. Not one. Spooky.

Thousands of Hindus...and Christians...were drowned elsewhere however.

Also no aboriginal people were drowned, not one. Spooky again.

This is likely false. For one thing there really isn't an accurate census of the Andamanese tribesmen.

Another thing to note is Bangladesh is one of the most populous Muslim countries in the world, and it was essentially unaffected by the Tsunami.

Hurricane Mitch killed 10,000 people in Central America, a region devoid of Muslims.

3 posted on 02/01/2005 5:44:45 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: BlackJack

Take a nap, get some fresh air, read a book, cook something, just stop trying to think.


4 posted on 02/01/2005 5:45:25 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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Sri Lanka was heavily hit by the tsunami, yet its populace is either Buddhist or Hindu, not Muslim.

Sorry, you're going to have to go back to the drawing board.

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 02/01/2005 5:46:05 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: BlackJack

LOL The answer is no. The question is stupid.


6 posted on 02/01/2005 5:48:50 AM PST by pnome
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"There are no stupid questions, just stupid people." - Mr. Garrison


7 posted on 02/01/2005 5:52:01 AM PST by orionblamblam
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To: BlackJack
"Indonesia is home to radical muslim groups against Israel, US and Australia.Could it be a punishment from Yahweh? Nah, its just a coincidence. Has to be."

If you don't read the scriptures, nor believe in prophecy, then how did you know to include the Aussies, mate, in your wonderings? A "cowinkidink?"

To answer your question about Yahwheh, just ask Him! He's very loquacious and glib when He find an actual listener... .

8 posted on 02/01/2005 5:52:53 AM PST by Ff--150 (It Works!)
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LOLOL, your #4 said it best!


9 posted on 02/01/2005 6:05:20 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: BlackJack
Not according to Jesus, if he counts for anything:

"But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous." (Matthew 5:44-45...emphasis added)

He also once told those wondering about another horrible events...

Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices.

Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them - do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (Luke 13:1-5)

10 posted on 02/01/2005 6:08:37 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Seems to me that a lot of the "facts" that you "recall" about this horrific disaster are, well, let's just say "less than fully true."

Yes, that DOES have an impact on your conclusions.


11 posted on 02/01/2005 6:14:38 AM PST by Redbob
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To: BlackJack
Its possible.
During the mid-1930's when Hitler's murderous plans were still in the future, Huey Long predicted that the man (and Germany as well) would come to a bad end.
Long concluded from a study of history that nations that oppressed the Jews - he cited ancient Egypt, medieval Spain, and Czarist Russia - declined and never recovered their greatness.
I don't agree with 99% of Huey Long's ideas or opinions, but this one has a ring of truth about it.
12 posted on 02/01/2005 6:26:17 AM PST by quadrant
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The skewed facts in this post do discredit the fact that Israel and Israelites did amazingly outlive all of its detractors and oppressors (the Ancient Egyptians, the Assyrians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union) and defeated the Arabs in 5 wars and 2 "intifadahs". At a cost, though. And the countries that support Israel, like the US, do prosper. And it's Yehovah, not Yahwe (althogh you are not supposed to call His Name in vain). Thanx.


13 posted on 02/01/2005 6:31:00 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: quadrant

Yes, I forgot the Zarist Russia, the Medieval Spain and the Arab Khaliphate, and the Ottoman Empire. Amazing, ain't it?


14 posted on 02/01/2005 6:37:04 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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Yes, I forgot the Zarist Russia, the Medieval Spain and the Arab Khaliphate, and the Ottoman Empire. Amazing, ain't it?

What's amazing? Yes, medieval Spain is no more. But neither is any other medieval nation. Nothing lasts forever, good or bad.

15 posted on 02/01/2005 6:43:39 AM PST by Commie Basher
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I would have to say that you have a strong point. Your premise that anyone who stands against Israel is crushed shortly afterwards is very compelling. The reason why, is that this very idea is Biblical. Genesis 12:3 reads, “I will bless those who bless you, and the one who curses you I will curse; and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

Sadly, according to Zechariah 12:1-5, all nations, including America, will eventually turn against Israel and invite the redemptive judgement of God. It reads,
1)"This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD , who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares:
2)"I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem.
3) On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.
4) On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the LORD . "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations.
5) Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts, 'The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.'"

You mentioned that you don't believe in Bible Prophecy, yet you have been able to point out many different instances in which prophecy has come true. When you have a free moment, I would recommend you go to www.HalLindsey.com. He currently has an article posted entitled, "Assessing Current Events" that you will find very interesting.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me at farmboyinthesticks@yahoo.com.
16 posted on 02/01/2005 6:44:32 AM PST by rohtol
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Is Yahweh punishing the enemies of Israel with natural disasters?

No. As Jesus said, "Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

Everyone's in the same position.
17 posted on 02/01/2005 6:47:30 AM PST by aruanan
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To: rohtol
I would recommend you go to www.HalLindsey.com

Especially if one is interested in hilarious idiots and liars.

18 posted on 02/01/2005 6:53:19 AM PST by Strategerist
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Is Yahweh punishing the enemies of Israel with natural disasters?

Remember the 10 plagues in Egypt?

Although GOD is very compassionate and patient with people, His wrath has not gone unseen in the events of human history. You quote Jesus speaking of a tower falling on eighteen people. In cases such as those, accidents do happen. However, we are talking about calamities on such a scale that are out of the hands of human beings.
19 posted on 02/01/2005 6:55:10 AM PST by rohtol
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To: Strategerist
I would recommend you go to www.HalLindsey.com
Especially if one is interested in hilarious idiots and liars.


Me thinks thou dost protest too much... but since you brought it up, what examples do you have of Hal Lindsey being a "hilarious idiot and liar" ?
20 posted on 02/01/2005 6:58:16 AM PST by rohtol
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