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Dingy Harry Reid Searchlight Flashback,1998 & 99 OK to put money in private to solve Soc Sec crisis
Social Security Choice.org ^ | February 3, 2005 | Adam Doverspike

Posted on 02/03/2005 9:10:42 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded

Democrats on Personal Accounts Adam Doverspike

Back in an era where Senators and Representatives listened to proposals before opposing them, these Democrats endorsed the idea of personal accounts. Here are their own words.

Senators: Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV): “[M]ost Of Us Have No Problem With Taking A Small Amount Of The Social Security Proceeds And Putting It Into The Private Sector.” (Fox’s “Fox News Sunday,” 2/14/99)

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) Press Release: “Durbin Said Due To The Increasing Number Of ‘Baby Boomers’ Reaching Retirement Age, Social Security Will Be Unable To Pay Out Full Benefits … But The Sooner Congress Acts To Avert This Crisis The Easier And Less Painful It Will Be.” (Sen. Dick Durbin, “Reforming Social Security,” Press Release, 9/15/98)

Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND): “Fixing Social Security Is An Urgent Priority. It Ought To Be At The Top Of Both Parties’ Agendas.” (Sen. Byron Dorgan, “Fixing Social Security Must Top Both Parties’ Agendas,” Roll Call, 12/6/99)

Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-ND): “The Potential [Social Security] Crisis Should Be Viewed As An Enormous Success, Because It Means That We Are Living Longer And Healthier Lives.” (Betty Mills, Op-Ed, “What Would You Do About Social Security?” Bismarck Tribune, 8/5/98)

Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND): “I Was At The Social Security Summit At The White House, Along With 40 Of My Colleagues, Republicans And Democrats. And There Was Virtual Unanimity Of Opinion That We Simply Have To Get A Higher Return From The Social Security Investments.” (Fox News’ “Special Report,” 1/20/99)

House Members: Rep. Sander Levin (D-MI): “People Can See, I Think, A [Social Security] Crisis Where There Immediate Family Is Affected Even If Not Immediately … This Is Something That Affects Almost Everybody’s Immediate Family.” (Richard A. Ryan, “Social Security Reform Stalls,” The Detroit News, 2/2/02)

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY): “I Am One Democrat That Truly Believes That Democrats Will Not Benefit By Doing Nothing On Social Security.” (Rep. Charles Rangel, Press Conference, 1/21/99)

Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-MA): “I Am An Advocate For Investing A Portion Of The Surplus In The Private Sector …” (Rep. Edward J. Markey, Committee On Commerce, U.S. House Of Representatives, Testimony, 2/25/99)

Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY): “[I]t’s A Way Of Getting More Money – A Higher Return On The Trust Fund, And Is A Prudent And Good Thing To Do.” (Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Press Conference, 1/21/99)

Former Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-MO): “Why Should Social Security Recipients Be Disadvantaged By Not Getting To Be Able To Have Higher Returns Out Of The Stock Market?” (Rep. Dick Gephardt, Press Conference, 1/21/99)

Clinton: President Clinton: “[Investing] Will Earn A Higher Return And Keep Social Security Sound For 55 Years.” (President Bill Clinton, State Of The Union, 1/19/99)

President Clinton: “[W]hat I Believe We Should Do Is To Invest A Modest Amount Of This In The Private Sector, The Way Every Other Retirement Plan Does. The Arizona State Retirement Plan Does; Every Municipal Retirement Plan Does; Every Private Plan Does.” (President Bill Clinton, Remarks To The Citizens Of Tucson On Medicare And Social Security, Tucson, AZ, 2/25/99)

President Clinton: “[E]ven After You Take Account Of The Stock Market Going Down And Maybe Staying Down For A Few Years, Shouldn’t We Consider Investing Some Of This Money, Because, Otherwise, We’ll Have To Either Cut Benefits Or Raise Taxes To Cover Them, If We Can’t Raise The Rate Of Return.” (President Bill Clinton, Remarks Via Satellite To The Regional Congressional Social Security Forums, Albuquerque, NM, 7/27/98)


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; conrad; dorgan; durbin; gephardt; levin; markey; nadler; privatesector; rangel; reid; socialsecurity; ss
I hope someone can locate the video on this stuff and we can run TV commercials nationwide. Talk about flip flops.

I know Sean Hannity has done some of this and Fox News had the clip from Dingy Harry Reid's February 14, 1999 on Fox News Sunday on Special Report tonight.

If journalists did their job they would be playing the tapes and then asking questions. Hey you said we had a crisis in Social Security 5 years ago and supported private investment of social security, now your bashing Bush over it, isn't that hypocritical?

1 posted on 02/03/2005 9:10:43 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Interesting stuff. Could use this for reference.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 9:12:36 PM PST by kizzdogg
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Bump...


3 posted on 02/03/2005 9:13:49 PM PST by tubebender (Can someone remind me what my Near Years resolutions were...)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Of course that was alright, it was a dem impeached president.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 9:15:32 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: kizzdogg

Rush said today on his show that Searchlight has 1 place to eat that has a casino inside, not exactly the kind of place 10 year old skateboarders hang out from Dingy Harry Reid knows.

The only place to skateboard around Searchlight is Interstate 15. I'm wondering if Harry Reid went to the Dick Gephardt school of friendship development.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 9:18:16 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

The Eagle has sharp eyes. Thanks for finding this information.


6 posted on 02/03/2005 9:18:29 PM PST by kitkat (Our 1776 patriots are proud of Pres. George Walker Bush)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
The internet is killing the liberals. The mainstream media can't cover up their lies anymore. I love it. I just hope more people realize what self serving, traitorous bastards the liberals in Washington are.
7 posted on 02/03/2005 9:20:56 PM PST by lotusblos
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To: kitkat

Lets hope some Republican group has good brain and puts this in an ad campaign to help President Bush get us personal accounts.


8 posted on 02/03/2005 9:21:08 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
If journalists did their job they would be playing the tapes and then asking questions.

The MSM will never ask a hard question of Democrats, but this post should make the rounds of the all the bloggers who comment on Social Security.

9 posted on 02/03/2005 9:22:12 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

After their statements they all said, "Unless of course a Republican suggests these changes, then they are a bad idea."


10 posted on 02/03/2005 9:22:17 PM PST by msnimje
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Hmmmmmm, what is the difference between 1999 and 2005??? The guy in the White House perchance??


A rhetorical question of course. ;-)


11 posted on 02/03/2005 9:22:52 PM PST by kb2614 ( You have everything to fear, including fear itself. - The new DNC slogan)
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To: lotusblos

For those with a VCR, record Special Report with Brit Hume starting at 12:30 Eastern time, just before the panel they show Dingy Harry's quote from Fox News Sunday on February 14, 1999 and get it to your local conservative radio host.

Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV): “[M]ost Of Us Have No Problem With Taking A Small Amount Of The Social Security Proceeds And Putting It Into The Private Sector.” (Fox’s “Fox News Sunday,” 2/14/99)


12 posted on 02/03/2005 9:25:23 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Some great stuff here, Eagle... thanks!


13 posted on 02/03/2005 9:27:36 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Some gut called into Rush's show today. Said that he lives near Searchlight and stopped in to the restaurant that Reid had spoken so fondly of.

According to the caller, the locals haven't seen Reid in years....


14 posted on 02/03/2005 9:27:43 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Harry Reid claims his dad was a "hard-rock" miner in Searchlight. He uses "hard-rock" when he really means gold. Why do you think Harry Reid is afraid to tell people his dad worked in a gold mine?
15 posted on 02/03/2005 9:29:54 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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16 posted on 02/03/2005 9:29:56 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Howlin; holdonnow

ping


17 posted on 02/03/2005 9:31:07 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

What was the position of AARP when the Democrats were proposing personal accounts in the 1990s?


18 posted on 02/03/2005 9:31:46 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

I've got it on right now. Nice find.


19 posted on 02/03/2005 9:35:56 PM PST by wolf24
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

hypocriticalping!


20 posted on 02/03/2005 9:40:01 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: wolf24

the Reid video on Special Report will be right after the current break, please have VCR'S recording


21 posted on 02/03/2005 9:42:08 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

***Lets hope some Republican group has good brain and puts this in an ad campaign to help President Bush get us personal accounts.***

I hope FRers are sending this out to their email lists.

And I'll be listening to Rush tomorrow to see if he's seen it here.


22 posted on 02/03/2005 10:12:51 PM PST by kitkat (Our 1776 patriots are proud of Pres. George Walker Bush)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Great post!


23 posted on 02/03/2005 10:13:59 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: Dad yer funny

BUMP! Save this!


24 posted on 02/03/2005 10:20:38 PM PST by Yehuda (AMERICA: LAND OF THE FREE, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

You say flip-flop, I say liar!


25 posted on 02/03/2005 10:36:54 PM PST by jackieaxe (CBS must think we are all dumb)
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To: kitkat

among other hosts like Gman, Sean, and Mike Gallagher


26 posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:47 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Looks to me like they were referring to investing a part of the SS Ponzi fund proceeds in the stock market, not just treasury notes, not instituting private accounts for individuals....


27 posted on 02/03/2005 10:39:04 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

The point is they were saying 6 years ago Social Security is in Crisis, they are now saying people who say Social Security is in Crisis now are lying, just like WMD's in Iraq.

When they said Sadaam had them and we needed to get rid of him that was fine and don't question it. When someone else says it a couple of years later their liars.

Bush wants to use the private sector investments to get a better rate of return and so did they.


28 posted on 02/03/2005 10:48:22 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Bush wants to use the private sector investments to get a better rate of return and so did they.

Before the market took a drop in 2000 it looked a lot better as an investment..an excuse they will probably use this time around..of course SS is in a crisis, Congress belongs in jail..if any private company sold a plan like SS, the owners would be in jail...

29 posted on 02/03/2005 10:52:20 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

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30 posted on 02/03/2005 11:07:19 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Great job . I bet there are even more back between ,94 and ,99 . Great . The press should be doing there job too. At least we have Fox and talk radio ;-)


31 posted on 02/04/2005 1:00:53 AM PST by Deetes
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

This needs a BUMP for the early morning Freepers.


32 posted on 02/04/2005 7:19:04 AM PST by kitkat (Our 1776 patriots are proud of Pres. George Walker Bush)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Very nice....bookmarking for future reference.

BTW, here's some info on Reid's income in the late 90's

His wealth could be as high as $4.9 million, according to his disclosure statement.

      Real estate holdings account for most of his financial worth. His most lucrative properties include 100 acres in Bullhead City, Ariz., and an office building at 428 S. Fourth St. in Las Vegas. Both could be worth as much as $1 million.

      Income that Reid received off his assets last year amounted to at least $146,207 and may have reached $357,721.

      Reid also donated to charity $4,000 he received for two speeches -- one to Marriott International in Bethesda, Md., and the other to Sierra Pacific Resources in Reno.

      For liabilities, Reid listed two loans: one with a range of $15,001 to $50,000 and another between $50,001 and $100,000.

      As for his positions outside government, Reid is president and trustee of Harry Reid Ltd. and of HARRY REID PENSION AND PROFIT SHARING TRUSTS. He is a partner of Reid & Alverson Ltd. The entities are in Las Vegas.


33 posted on 02/04/2005 7:29:13 AM PST by syriacus (Ted Kennedy MIS-learned how to unseat dictators by watching JFK's Bay of Pigs fiasco.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

bump


34 posted on 02/04/2005 7:51:03 AM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: syriacus

good info on dingy harry, also fox news had quotes from january 17, 1935 of fdr saying he expected social security to go to personal accounts eventually.


35 posted on 02/04/2005 12:26:58 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Social Security Activism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345432/posts


36 posted on 02/17/2005 12:55:15 PM PST by votelife (Elect a filibuster proof majority, 60 conservative US Senators!)
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