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Bald eagles found slaughtered in B.C.
Cnews ^ | February 3, 2005 | AMY CARMICHAEL

Posted on 02/04/2005 11:18:40 AM PST by Abathar

VANCOUVER (CP) - A flash of white feathers lured Julie Bryson-McElwee's dog into the bush.

She followed when he didn't come back. A dead bald eagle lay on the forest floor. Lunging to keep her pet away from the carcass, Bryson-McElwee stumbled on Wednesday across a shallow grave, piled with 14 of the protected species. The legs and tail feathers had been cut off, possibly for sale on the black market.

"It's just sickening," Bryson-McElwee said in a telephone interview on Thursday. "Whoever did this had a real operation going, there were garbage bags all around the grave and in it. It looked to me like they were killed somewhere else and brought here to be buried."

She was so upset by her ugly discovery that she stayed with the birds for hours waiting for police, worried that someone would try to remove the bodies once the story hit the news.

"I was upset, now I'm really angry," she said.

Wildlife officers investigating the killings say they aren't uncommon.

"We have found birds mutilated like this over the years," said Rick Hahn, a senior conservation officer for the Lower Mainland. "We suspect there is a black market trade in the talons. Eagles are traditionally used by First Nations people for cultural ceremonies.

"However, we haven't made that link in this case."

Fines for the crime can range as high as $50,000 for killing an eagle and up to $100,000 for trafficking in a wildlife species.

Thor Froslev, manager of the Brackendale Eagle Reserve where 1,975 eagles were spotted this year in the park's 19th annual bird count, said he's not optimistic anyone will be caught.

"How will they find them?" he asked.

"I'm just sick about it. What sad news, and we've had it before."

Over the years he has, on occasion, found eagles shot dead and similarly excised for parts.

"I understand they are wanted for ornaments and for medicine in native cultures," he said.

Chief Bill Williams of the nearby Squamish First Nation said eagles are revered by natives, who use bird parts from carcasses found by the provincial conservation office.

"We don't go out into the wild and take them ourselves," he said.

When dead birds are passed on to a band they are blessed to release their spirit and prayers are said to apologize on behalf of man for their death.

"Because it flies so high, the eagle is closest to the creator. It brings prayers to the creator," Williams said.

Bev Day, director of OWL, a wildlife rehabilitation society, said she hopes the bodies of the slaughtered eagles found in North Vancouver are given to First Nations people for that treatment.

She recently released four bald eagles in the area the carcasses were found and worries they might be hers.

"With their legs cut off, we couldn't immediately tell if they had been wearing bands," said Day. "I hope investigators are going to comb that area with metal detectors, maybe we can find some identification bands and figure out where they came from."

She said it would be easy for someone to lure eagles this time of year.

"They are normally up in the Squamish area now, eating the spawning salmon but with the rivers so high a lot of the salmon has washed away. If someone had a bunch of fish and put it out I think it would attract them pretty quickly," she said.

About half of the world's 70,000 bald eagles live in Alaska. Combined with British Columbia's population of about 20,000, the northwest coast of North America is by far their greatest stronghold.

They flourish here in part because of the salmon. Dead or dying fish are an important food source for all bald eagles.

Day, who nurses birds of prey that have been poisoned or shot and returns them to the wild, would like to teach the birds killers a lesson.

"I hope the judge gives them to me to do some community service," she said. "I've got some really nasty jobs that need doing, cleaning out the duck pond comes to mind. I'd give them a really small shovel and a small pail."


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baldeagle; canada; poacher; poacherscumbags
Shoot whoever did this and bury THEM in a shallow grave!
1 posted on 02/04/2005 11:18:42 AM PST by Abathar
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To: Abathar
I wonder if Julie gets as upset about little pre birth human legs and arms cut off, possibly for sale on the black market.

Which does happen

Hey, someone was going to say it, might as well be me.

2 posted on 02/04/2005 11:23:31 AM PST by Popman
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To: Abathar

Why do I have the feeling that the person(s) who did this are some psychotic raving lefty America hater?


3 posted on 02/04/2005 11:24:04 AM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Abathar
"We suspect there is a black market trade in the talons. Eagles are traditionally used by First Nations people for cultural ceremonies."

Would this be the people that have a natural respect for mother earth and her creatures?

4 posted on 02/04/2005 11:25:22 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Abathar

I, too, am sickened by this. All that tasty meat gone to waste!


5 posted on 02/04/2005 11:26:37 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Popman

I was thinking the same thing. Four thousand innocent babies murdered in the womb every day, no heart-rending stories are written about them.


6 posted on 02/04/2005 11:28:54 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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To: Abathar

Stake 'em out naked, and let all nearby bald eagles feast on them for a few days.


7 posted on 02/04/2005 11:31:47 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Abathar
"I understand they are wanted for ornaments and for medicine in native cultures," he said.

That's true, but they don't just slaughter them and leave them to rot.

Black market animal trading is really strange. I saw something on Animal Planet about salmon poachers in the northwest. They put these huge 35 mile long nets out as the salmon were returning to spawn and what do you know they caught thousands and thousands of fish...and whales, birds, dolphins, seals and anything else out there. It makes so little sense to disturb the mating habits of the thing you are trying to sell. I think they sold them in Taiwan.

8 posted on 02/04/2005 11:35:13 AM PST by retrokitten
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To: MisterRepublican
Sort of a strange dichotomy that Bald eagles are protected from harm, yet a human baby can be slaughtered without a peep
9 posted on 02/04/2005 11:37:25 AM PST by Popman
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
I, too, am sickened by this. All that tasty meat gone to waste!

Yeah, don't they taste like spotted owl?

10 posted on 02/04/2005 11:38:52 AM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Abathar

I live in Vancouver, B.C.

In all fairness, I doubt the Natives did this, they really do revere and respect the eagles.

A few years ago, a black bear crossed the local highway and was hit. By the time police got to the scene, someone had already cut out its gall bladder. Bear gall bladder is highly sought-after in China as an aphrodisiac.

You figure it out.


11 posted on 02/04/2005 11:39:56 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Popman

There is no black market in fetal body parts. That is an urban legend, fueled by extremist anti-abortion activists who refer to embryonic stem cells as "body parts" and then encourage people to believe that "body parts" means organs from late stage fetuses, and that they are being sold for transplantation or some sort of secret and/or illegal research. And there is no "black market" in embryonic stem cells either -- why would there be, when it's perfectly legal to sell them, and they are now readily available to researchers at a very low cost (or even no cost, as in the case of the Harvard lines).


12 posted on 02/04/2005 11:42:09 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Abathar

Bald eagles are naught but white headed vultures feeding on carrion & dead fish, a sick symbol indeed for a national bird.

Damn, if not the turkey Ben Franklin wanted, at the very least they could have chosen the golden eagle, a true bird of prey that is a fighter.

Of course, you also have the California freaks spending untold taxpayer millions on worshipping that condor buzzard.


13 posted on 02/04/2005 11:45:14 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: TChris

A little gamier than spotted owl, but not as bad as grey wolf.;-)

Seriously, though, I would never shoot anything edible, and then leave the meat. No ethical hunter would. There are some exceptions, like mountain lion and coyotes, but I even keep the hams from bear for stew. Even if you don't care to eat it yourself, food banks are happy to get donations.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 11:47:45 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There is no black market in fetal body parts

That may be true in this country, though I have seen information that contradicts that viewpoint. For the sake of making a point, I'll agree.

What about the European black market for fetal body parts?

Feel Better?

15 posted on 02/04/2005 11:48:00 AM PST by Popman
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To: canuck_conservative

I don't have a problem with that, since the bear was already dead. Waste not, want not. I doubt if someone would risk life, limb, and increased insurance rates to intentionally hit a bear with a car.


16 posted on 02/04/2005 11:50:09 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Abathar

I thought this was about Boston College.


17 posted on 02/04/2005 11:58:01 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Abathar

You kill it, you eat it.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 11:59:55 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
I, too, am sickened by this. All that tasty meat gone to waste!

Tasted like chicken.

19 posted on 02/04/2005 12:03:23 PM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

"Bald eagles are naught but white headed vultures feeding on carrion & dead fish, a sick symbol indeed for a national bird."

Actually Bald Eagles are very good at catching live Salmon and there are lots of nature film clips of them catching and sometimes dropping live fish.

The do eat carrion at the end of the run once the Salmon enter the rivers to spawn. Salmon is a seasonal feast after all.


20 posted on 02/04/2005 12:13:10 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Popman

Evidence please?


21 posted on 02/04/2005 12:23:55 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

The condor is cool. So ugly it is beautiful.


22 posted on 02/04/2005 12:41:14 PM PST by Feiny (Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.)
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To: Abathar

Hey that's our national symbol, sounds like ground for invading Canada to me.


23 posted on 02/04/2005 12:42:35 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

You obviously have not seen the Austin Powers movie with Fat Bastard saying "I EAT BABY....it's the other, other white meat!!".


24 posted on 02/04/2005 12:42:54 PM PST by Feiny (Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.)
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To: beaver fever
Over the summer we were out and there was a raptor rescue group there with some of the birds they take care of and one of them was a bald eagle that had been injured and no longer can fly. We were there kind of late and they were packing up and one of the volunteers said the birds were getting restless because it was close to feeding time. No sooner were the words out of her mouth did that eagle let out a scream. I had heard the term "screaming eagle" before, but took it for granted that eagles actually scream (cut me some slack, I live just outside Chicago- not exactly eagle country). He was maybe 7 feet away and, man, I felt that sound in my chest it was so loud and piercing. Scary and awe-inspiring at the same time.


25 posted on 02/04/2005 12:43:06 PM PST by retrokitten
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To: vpintheak

I suspect, if they find who did this, it will be a native person who does not show the immense respect for nature that is supposedly their cultural heritage (just like the ones down east who poach moose with snare traps). Notice how almost all the incidents like this that have occured have been on native land.


26 posted on 02/04/2005 12:43:40 PM PST by -YYZ-
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To: TChris
Actually they taste like when you cross breed a Spotted Owl and the Eagle....:)
27 posted on 02/04/2005 12:44:42 PM PST by Recon by Fire
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To: Abathar
Of course, you should know that scientists have discovered that all eagles are bald...






...its just that some have a comb-over.

28 posted on 02/04/2005 12:48:43 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Abathar

I suspect the eagle parts have a ready market south of the Canadian border to phony bast*rds like Ward Churchill who want to play at being noble redmen.

It will have been local natives who did the 'harvesting'.

Spare me the 'Earth is our mother' rhetoric.


29 posted on 02/04/2005 12:49:03 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: retrokitten

Thanks for the quick come back. I live in Vancouver and it is quite common to see Bald Eagles downtown during the Salmon Season.

Beautiful birds, no doubt about it.


30 posted on 02/04/2005 12:57:11 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: TChris

That's the rare Trump Eagle. ;-)


31 posted on 02/04/2005 1:04:27 PM PST by retrokitten
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To: retrokitten
I saw something on Animal Planet about salmon poachers in the northwest.

Mmmmm, poached salmon...

32 posted on 02/04/2005 1:07:03 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: retrokitten
That's the rare Trump Eagle. ;-)

Trump Eagle

33 posted on 02/04/2005 1:25:11 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: beaver fever

In IL we do get quite a few bald eagles nesting along the Mississippi River in the winter and a very few stay in Starved Rock State Park year round. But, unfortunately, we see them in our zoos or through animal rescues, because the birds have been injured and can no longer be released back into the wild.


34 posted on 02/04/2005 1:26:16 PM PST by retrokitten
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To: TChris

LOL!!!


35 posted on 02/04/2005 1:26:31 PM PST by retrokitten
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36 posted on 02/04/2005 1:39:42 PM PST by devolve ( WWII-TRIBUTE: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffs.html http://pro.lookingat.us/GBU.html)
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To: devolve
bump!

37 posted on 02/04/2005 3:47:51 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: devolve

bump


38 posted on 02/04/2005 7:36:02 PM PST by GeronL (2-7-72 is my birthday, in lieu of gifts, just send me cash)
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To: devolve

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 02/04/2005 8:40:02 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: beaver fever

"Actually Bald Eagles are very good at catching live Salmon and there are lots of nature film clips of them catching and sometimes dropping live fish."

Several years living around them in Alaska convinced me they are little more than bottom feeding vultures, period.


40 posted on 02/05/2005 3:06:54 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: devolve

Devolve, the eagle looks beautiful against that background. It looks so real!


41 posted on 02/05/2005 8:12:30 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: potlatch


Yup - that did work well


42 posted on 02/05/2005 9:02:53 PM PST by devolve ( WWII-TRIBUTE: http://pro.lookingat.us/WhiteCliffs.html http://pro.lookingat.us/GBU.html)
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To: devolve

Hmmm, do you have both thumbs in your armpits and fingers flapping??


43 posted on 02/05/2005 9:04:59 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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