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Ban on Public Smoking Advances (Va. Gen. Assembly going bonkers)
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | 2/4/05 | John Reid Blackwell

Posted on 02/04/2005 1:35:08 PM PST by iceskater

A Senate committee advanced legislation yesterday that would prohibit smoking in most public, indoor places in Virginia.

The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Bill Mims, R-Loudoun, was approved by the Senate Education and Health Committee on an 8-7 vote, reversing an earlier Senate subcommittee vote that narrowly rejected the bill.

The legislation would prohibit smoking in most indoor public places, including offices, restaurants, and common areas of apartments and condominiums, with few exceptions. Hotels could permit smoking in some rooms, as long they do not exceed 25 percent of the total rooms. Smoking would be permitted in "private, separately enclosed areas" in bars and offices, but proprietors would be required to post "Warning: Smoking Permitted" signs in those areas.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: billmims; civilliberty; pufflist; rinosgonewild; smokingbans; tobacco; vageneralassembly
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They're at it again.
1 posted on 02/04/2005 1:35:09 PM PST by iceskater
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To: iceskater; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; AdSimp; society-by-contract; ...

Richmond ping.


2 posted on 02/04/2005 1:36:16 PM PST by iceskater
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To: iceskater

Oh my, I'm becoming speechless. The Senate needs a drastic overhaul.


4 posted on 02/04/2005 1:44:35 PM PST by Nick The Freeper
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I can see outlawing smoking in elevators, but other than that, let the prorietors make the call...MUD


5 posted on 02/04/2005 1:45:12 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (INDICT Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Gabz

ping!


6 posted on 02/04/2005 1:45:20 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: iceskater

What will this do to Philip Morris Co? I believe they still smoke everywhere in those buildings.


7 posted on 02/04/2005 1:46:55 PM PST by TXLady
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To: Nick The Freeper

I think we're slowly but surely becoming the "people's republik of Virginia."

I never thought I'd live to see the day but I'm losing hope that there is anyone left in the General Assembly with a shred of sense about anything.


8 posted on 02/04/2005 1:47:19 PM PST by iceskater
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To: TXLady

I don't know for sure but I thought I had heard that PM wasn't allowing unlimited smoking on their premises anymore. I'd have to check with a couple people I know who work there to be sure.


9 posted on 02/04/2005 1:48:13 PM PST by iceskater
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To: Mudboy Slim

Let the marketplace determine whether or not to allow smoking or not. If a business decides they'll make more money if they go non-smoking, then good for them. If another place says, they'd rather allow smoking, then good for them too. People will go where they want.

What is it about "free market" that these buffoons in the GA don't understand?


10 posted on 02/04/2005 1:50:12 PM PST by iceskater
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To: iceskater

Fascists invading private property. Are they wearing swastikas or just waving the Nazi flag?


11 posted on 02/04/2005 1:52:14 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: iceskater

I have a son working as Computer Engineer there and I just wondered. He had said a while back that they allowed smoking there and it bothered him somewhat. He has had allergies and asthma.


12 posted on 02/04/2005 1:52:19 PM PST by TXLady
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give 'em time and it'll be both


13 posted on 02/04/2005 1:53:14 PM PST by iceskater
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To: sergeantdave

This is just one thing. This piece of crap legislation on top of a gun show law, and another law banning cell phones for kids under 18 driving. And don't even get me started on the budget issues.

I thought I was living in Virginia. But I think I've entered the Twilight Zone.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 1:54:40 PM PST by iceskater
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To: iceskater

Hell, this actually sounds fairly reasonable compared to what they've done in a lot of places.

The health nazi minister of health here in Ontario is bringing in an anti-smoking law that completely bans smoking in all bars and restaurants, with no provision for separate enclosed smoking areas. When asked, he'll happily tell you that the lack of provision for separate enclosed smoking areas has nothing to do with concern over second-hand smoke, but just because they want to discourage (presumably adults who are old enough to make their own decisions) smokers and encourage them to quit. Freaking fascist.


15 posted on 02/04/2005 1:55:55 PM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

New Jersey is easy on smoking because it needs the tax revenue from cigarette sales to pay off the bonds that were issued to balance the state budget. New Jersey wants you to smoke because it needs tax money not necessarily because it cares about your individual rights.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_mysak&sid=a2Sc3ZyyT86E


16 posted on 02/04/2005 2:09:40 PM PST by KeyesPlease
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Smoking would be permitted in "private, separately enclosed areas" in bars…

The bars I have been in only have one large room. What then?
17 posted on 02/04/2005 2:40:04 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: SheLion; Gabz; Just another Joe

The insanity continues.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 2:52:10 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (I have no use for people who won't accept FACTS.)
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"Let the marketplace determine whether or not to allow smoking or not."

I couldn't agree more, my FRiend...MUD

19 posted on 02/04/2005 3:02:29 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (INDICT Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: appalachian_dweller; TexasCowboy; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; ...
A Senate committee advanced legislation yesterday that would prohibit smoking in most public, indoor places in Virginia.

Does this include "PRIVATE BUSINESS'S" or just public places???


20 posted on 02/04/2005 3:08:04 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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