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BUSH IN NORWAY
To The Point ^ | 02/04/2005 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 02/04/2005 4:53:23 PM PST by coffee260

It was about two years ago when I was talking to my friend Tony Blankley of the Washington Times and Fox News, and commented that someday George Bush’s greatness as a president would be compared to Ronald Reagan’s. Tony’s response floored me: “You know, Jack, someday it might be the other way around.”

The trifecta of the last two weeks – the Second Inaugural Address, the elections in Iraq, the State of the Union – provide an undeniable demonstration of Tony’s prescience. Yet next December 10 in Oslo, Norway, there will be another undeniable demonstration – this one of undiluted perversity. For on that day, George W. Bush will not be there to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

The nominations closed this week, on February 1st. Last year, a Norwegian Parliamentarian, Jan Simonsen, nominated President Bush for ridding the world of Saddam Hussein. How much more so should he be nominated now? I can assure you that GW is on the nomination list, along with Victor Yushchenko of Ukraine, Micael Sakashvilli of Georgia, exiled Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasrin, and Rebiya Kadeer, a political prisoner in China for advocating freedom for her Uighur people of colonized East Turkestan.

Word is that Mrs. Kadeer has the inside track because she was recently awarded the Norwegian Rafto Prize for outstanding contributions to human rights, which is seen as a prelude to the Peace Prize itself (remember that the Norwegian Nobel Committee, consisting of five members, awards the Peace Prize, while the Swedish Nobel Committee awards the others). She would, in fact be an excellent choice.

Their inspirational leader is Rebiya Kadeer, now in the Chinese Gulag. She is Moslem as are virtually all Uighurs, yet she is a business, not religious role model – the single most successful businessperson in Xinjiang. Her being the Peace Laureate would focus the world’s attention on human rights in China, and the Moslem world’s attention on Chinese colonial oppression of their fellow Moslems.

Yet – the same hopes that Shirin Ebadi would do the same for Iran, when she won the Peace Prize in 2003, have amounted to zilch. Her name most likely draws a complete blank for you. The hard reality is that Rebiya Kadeer’s winning the Nobel Peace Prize would be a wonderful acknowledgement of her struggle, but it will do as little to bring freedom to East Turkestan as Shirin Ebadi’s has brought to Iran or Aung San Suu Kyi’s has brought to Burma.

There is only one individual among all humanity who has brought actual real freedom and democracy to tens of millions of people in our day, and who has both the capacity and determination to bring actual real freedom and democracy to tens and tens of millions more. It is, quite frankly, ludicrous to suggest that there is anyone on this planet more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize than George W. Bush.

The evidence for this is going to massively mount in the coming months. First will be success in Iraq. Forget the predicted “civil war” between the Arab Sunnis and the Shias. There is going to be a civil war in Iraq: between the Sunnis and the “insurgent” terrorists.

The Shias, guided by Ayatollah Ali Sistani, are going to make very sure Sunnis are included, not excluded, from the new government. The Sunnis, in turn, are going to start hunting down the terrorists amongst them and wiping them out. Why is revealed by the following AP story, reporting on an attack on Sunni pipeline guards near Kirkuk on February 2 that killed 12:

Relatives of the dead vowed revenge. “I lost three of my sons in this cowardly act, and I will not make a funeral of them until I reach the killers and kill them,” said Mohammed Abdullah Jubouri, 55.

There is no way the Zarqawi and Baathist terrorists can last long when men like Jubouri are after their blood.

GW made it crystal clear in the SOTU, as Condi has in numerous comments, that the con game Syria has played with us and the CIA is over. The Alawite tyranny of Bashar al-Asad will not be able to withstand the extraordinary pressure about to be placed upon it and is going to implode.

As Iraq stabilizes and Syria ‘s terrorist sanctuary is neutralized, all eyes will be on Iran. For the President of the United States to identify on global television Iran as “the world’s primary state sponsor of terror,” and to look directly into the camera and proclaim: “To the Iranian people, I say tonight: As you stand for your own liberty, America stands with you,” leaves little doubt that the days of Iran’s Mullacracy are numbered.

My friends at RegimeChangeIran believe that this signals a Bush-Rice strategy of unrelenting advocacy of human rights and the exposure of their denial in Iran. Yes… but it will be far, far more than that. Iran has already begun to swarm with small teams of CIA (together with British MI6 and Israeli Mossad), Delta Force and other SpecOps. US fighter jets violate Iranian air space constantly now, luring Tehran to turn on air defense radars so they can be “templated,” in order to develop in the words of one Pentagon official, “an electronic order of battle” to take out the nuclear facilities.

This is most likely PsyOps, screwing with the mullahs’ minds, for rather than air strikes, sabotage is the way to go. Watch for Iran’s nuclear facilities to start having a series of unfortunate “accidents.” Watch also for events leading up to this date: June 17, 2005. That’s when Iranian presidential elections are to be held. The same folks who assisted Urkaine’s Orange Revolution (see “Global Freedom and Drunk Coal Miners” from last week) will be directing efforts to foment “Triple U” (Uncontrollable Urban Unrest) during the election campaign in cities throughout Iran – not just Tehran.

GW and his team – Condi, Goss, and Rummy – will do it smoothly, only on occasion publicly, always seen to be “consulting” with their Euroweenie counterparts, but make no mistake: George Bush is determined to oust the Mullacracy and liberate Iran as he has done Iraq. A different set of methods and without a military invasion, but the same result nonetheless. And he is determined to do it quickly. I give the Mullahs 12 months or less.

You can give other Middle East autocracies a little longer – but the SOTU demand was clear to them as well: the time for democracy in Egypt and Saudi Arabia has come. Given all of this, what more could the Norwegian Nobel Committee want?

In 2002, the Committee gave its award to Jimmy Carter, not for anything he did for “peace” but as a consciously-directed insult to George Bush. Its members could redeem themselves for this act of world-class pettiness in 2005. They won’t. Envy trumps all other human emotions. No matter how much he deserves to be, George Bush won’t be in Norway next December. But by next December, the world will be a freer and more peaceful place thanks to him.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: avalanche; bush; bush43; george; inauguraladdress; iraq; iraqielection; nobel; nobelpeaceprize; peace; prize; sotu
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1 posted on 02/04/2005 4:53:23 PM PST by coffee260
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To: coffee260

Excellent read, Thanks for posting it


2 posted on 02/04/2005 4:58:55 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: coffee260

Why would W want the Nobel Peace Prize anyway? It's been awarded to Le Duc Tho, Jimmy Carter, and Yassir Arafat. Why would anyone want to join that group? I think they ought to nominate Hugo Chavez.


3 posted on 02/04/2005 5:01:53 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: coffee260

just WOW.

must be in the front row for this one.


4 posted on 02/04/2005 5:02:34 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: coffee260

BUMP


5 posted on 02/04/2005 5:13:47 PM PST by kitkat (Our 1776 patriots are proud of Pres. George Walker Bush)
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To: coffee260

Makes a pretty strong case, good article.


6 posted on 02/04/2005 5:23:21 PM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: coffee260
Whoa! Powerful! The whole ball of wax.

We, The People of the World know who the Man of the World is = and history will soon forget who gets the tarnished Nobel, but the name of George W. Bush will get louder for decades upon decades

7 posted on 02/04/2005 5:23:56 PM PST by maine-iac7 (...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: rintense; DrDeb; Mo1; mystery-ak; Howlin; admiralsn

Ping for a great read


8 posted on 02/04/2005 5:31:58 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: coffee260

Great read! I hope he's right.


9 posted on 02/04/2005 5:33:58 PM PST by Reverend Bob (Pawlenty/Rice 2008)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"Why would W want the Nobel Peace Prize anyway? "

Simple. W doesn't give a damn about it. No Republican should want to be anointed by that bunch. W should accept only an "honorable" NPP and make his own suggestions to that committee for their consideration. Republicans are not and never should be in that loop of people. We look for excellence differently than the way they do.

10 posted on 02/04/2005 5:39:41 PM PST by BobS
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To: coffee260

Very Good Post. Good overall outline of what I think is Bush's vision...and by danged, I think he'll pull it off.


11 posted on 02/04/2005 5:43:00 PM PST by elli1
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To: coffee260
Iran has already begun to swarm with small teams of CIA (together with British MI6 and Israeli Mossad), Delta Force and other SpecOps.

I have no idea if this is true, but I get a warm feeling inside thinking about it.

12 posted on 02/04/2005 5:52:45 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
:-) Iran has already complained about us flying over their country, and you can bet Bush is not sitting back and letting the EU go about their endless debates over Iran's Nuclear ambitions. The same goes for Israel, they didn't but all those JDAM's and Bunker Busters from us so they could protect themselves from Hamas :-).

I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Whit House Situation Room

13 posted on 02/04/2005 6:03:31 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: coffee260

G.W. is better than them, to the point not acknowledging him further drives them to irrelevance.

Let the Nobel Pries die alongside the U.N.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 6:13:30 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: MJY1288
Jack Wheeler has a lot of credibility with me. He is a very smart guy who is well connected in Republican/Libertarian circles.
15 posted on 02/04/2005 6:20:28 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Paleo Conservative

The committee that selects the winner would choose Ward Churchill sooner than they would ever pick George W. Bush.


17 posted on 02/04/2005 6:25:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Paleo Conservative

I think they should give it to Jimmy Carter again,
and again, and again. Let the world see just how meaningless
it is.


18 posted on 02/04/2005 6:31:11 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: marktwain

I agree, I have read his stuff in the past and he's a smart cookie


19 posted on 02/04/2005 6:32:19 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: DoctorZIn

ping


20 posted on 02/04/2005 6:32:45 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Unemployed people should forfeit their right to vote.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

That would be a good excuse to get him out of the US.


21 posted on 02/04/2005 6:41:54 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: MJY1288

Thanks for the ping....you betcha, what a great read....


22 posted on 02/04/2005 6:54:20 PM PST by mystery-ak (Jack's Back)
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To: coffee260

I give up on the Nobel committee, but I like this guy's point-of-view.


23 posted on 02/04/2005 7:35:11 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: MJY1288; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; ...
No matter how much he deserves to be, George Bush won’t be in Norway next December. But by next December, the world will be a freer and more peaceful place thanks to him.

President Bush doesn't want an award ... he just wants peace

24 posted on 02/04/2005 9:24:42 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Mo1

The Nobel Peace Prize,is equal to the GREAT COMMIE/TRAITOR prize.


25 posted on 02/04/2005 9:26:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mo1

He especially doesn't want an award from an organization of hypocrites.


26 posted on 02/04/2005 10:09:18 PM PST by My2Cents ("Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose." -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: MJY1288

The Nobel Peace Prize has become more insult than honor.


27 posted on 02/04/2005 10:13:17 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: My2Cents

Yes .. that too!


28 posted on 02/04/2005 10:15:30 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I agree 100%, If Bush was to be named for it, I would imagine he would say he couldn't attend the ceremony because of his prior commitment to attend a T-Ball game on the South Lawn of the White House :-)
29 posted on 02/04/2005 10:21:31 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: Mo1
Mo1, what's up with all the Trolls tonight! Is there a Full Moon tonight?
30 posted on 02/04/2005 10:22:54 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
Full moon isn't till Tuesday I think

My guess is maybe the left ain't to happy with the week they've had :0)

That .. or it's a bunch of college kiddies with too much time on their hands

And from the few threads I've seen and what they wrote .. I'm leaning toward the brats playing on the computers that mommy and daddy bought for them

31 posted on 02/04/2005 10:29:24 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: snugs; MadIvan; rintense; ohioWfan; kitkat; homemom; JohnHuang2; Libertina; goodnesswins; ...

FYI - very interesting read
W, Condi, Iran, strategy, effects of Bush policy in Iraq; Syria et cetera


32 posted on 02/05/2005 12:10:35 AM PST by GretchenM
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To: GretchenM

Thanks! This guy makes some interesting points. And he is quite right...W won't get the prize, but no one deserves it more.


33 posted on 02/05/2005 2:05:52 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

Agreed. I was thinking this during the SOU- no one deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than W. And in another 20 years when the world is a much peaceful place that will be very evident.


34 posted on 02/05/2005 2:07:47 AM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: franksolich

This is one you might like Frank


35 posted on 02/05/2005 2:14:03 AM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Mo1

What a great article, thanks for the ping. Who gives a rats butt about the Nobel award any more? They've made it meaningless.

Fascinating stuff about Iran.


36 posted on 02/05/2005 4:42:41 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: coffee260

BTTT--


37 posted on 02/05/2005 4:48:30 AM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: Mo1; JustaCowgirl
**President Bush doesn't want an award ... he just wants peace**

I agree he does not care about his legacy just getting the job done and making the world a freer and safer place.
38 posted on 02/05/2005 4:58:19 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: GretchenM

Thanks for the ping Gretchen IMHO he does not want this or any award what he wants is freedom and peace for all.


39 posted on 02/05/2005 5:00:03 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: lawgirl
Can you get it posthumously? If so that is a possibility
40 posted on 02/05/2005 5:01:11 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs
I agree he does not care about his legacy just getting the job done and making the world a freer and safer place.

And for the idiots in Europe .. he isn't interested in ruling the world either

He and we .. just want you to stop appeasing the people who are hell bent on trying to kill us

Is that really to hard to understand??

One would think they learned their lesson after WWII

41 posted on 02/05/2005 5:55:47 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: kingsurfer

Thank you, sir; sharp eyes you have, because I missed this one.

However, I am confused.

Albert Nobel was Swedish; what does Norway have to do with the Nobel prizes?


42 posted on 02/05/2005 6:06:07 AM PST by franksolich (buy fish with the "Made in Norway" label on the can)
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To: Mo1
Absolutely he has made that clear with why the troops are in Iraq I just wish mainland Europe and even some of my fellow coutrymen would listen.

I cringe everytime I hear Europe mentioned I know virtually 100% of the time Britain is not included in this but I suppose we have been so brained washed and I hate to say it by a great extent in the past my own Conservative Party that we are part of Europe that I immediately get on the defensive I know you are not referring to us but unfortunately I have been conditioned.
43 posted on 02/05/2005 6:08:58 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: franksolich

The website for Nobel Peace Prize is:

http://www.nobel.no/index.html

That may give more details as to why Norway


44 posted on 02/05/2005 6:13:02 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: snugs

No don't mean to slam all of Europre .. I need to be more careful in my posts ..

The Brits have been a good friend to us and stood strong by our side during many hard times

I may not agree with Blair domestic policies .. but the man has a stong spine when standing up to the terrorists


45 posted on 02/05/2005 6:16:45 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Mo1

Thank you for your comments I know you were not including Britain it is more my conditioning as I said.

I agree do not agree with Blair and his Party's policies but he has supported the WOT well and I will always be greatful for that. My own party recently has clarified their postion with Michael Howard even going as far as saying he supports the action in Iraq purely as regime change which is further than Blair dares to Blair states world is better off for removing Saddam but no further.


46 posted on 02/05/2005 6:29:45 AM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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To: coffee260
Envy trumps all other human emotions.

A profound statement about the human condition, and unfortunately very often true.

47 posted on 02/05/2005 6:34:43 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: Paleo Conservative
That would be a good excuse to get him out of the US.

(meaning Jimmy Carter). Yes, let's find an excuse to get Jimmah out of the country again, then immediately revoke his citizenship and not let him back in. If he'll just leave the country and STHU forever, he can have all the Peace Prizes he wants, as far as I'm concerned.

48 posted on 02/05/2005 6:41:58 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: coffee260

Victor Yushchenko of Ukraine? They've got to be kidding.
Micael Sakashvilli of Georgia? Is he the dead guy?
Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasrin? Is he/she a Moslem? That give him/her an edge.
Rebiya Kadeer? Uighurs are predominantly Moslem, aren't they? Again, an edge.

The Nobel will, if possible, go to a Moslem. It's part of the Nobel committee's dis-ing of President Bush, and part of the ongoing capitulation of Europe to Islamic terrorism.

Islamic Terrorism? That's redundant.


49 posted on 02/05/2005 8:00:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: snugs

Dag Hammarskjold (1905-1961) was awarded the Peace Prize posthumously in 1961, a few months after he was killed in the Congo.


50 posted on 02/05/2005 8:15:37 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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