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'Podcasting' Lets Masses Do Radio Shows
AP story ^ | February 6th, 2005 | Matthew Fordahl

Posted on 02/06/2005 11:55:00 PM PST by ajolympian2004

SAN JOSE, Calif. - After getting a taste of the radio business in college, software designer Craig Patchett never lost his interest in broadcasting. But without a job in radio, it seemed likely to remain one of those unfulfilled passions — until something called "podcasting" came along.

Now, Patchett's creating shows and sending them out to the masses every day — not over the airwaves to radios but over the Internet, from his personal computer in Carlsbad, Calif.

His listeners download his shows to their iPods and other digital music players.

Patchett, 43, is among a growing number of people getting into podcasting, which is quickly becoming another of the Internet's equalizing technologies.

Less than a year old, podcasting enables anyone with a PC to become a broadcaster. It has the potential to do to the radio business what Web logs have done to print journalism. By bringing the cost of broadcasting to nearly nothing, it's enabling more voices and messages to be heard than ever before.

"It was just one of those things where you read about a technology and it clicks in your head: This is perfect and something I want to get involved with," said Patchett, whose podcasts focus on Christian and family programming.

For listeners, podcasting offers a diverse menu of programs, which can be enjoyed anywhere, anytime. Unlike traditional radio, shows can be easily paused, rewound or fast-forwarded. The listener doesn't need to be near a PC, unlike most forms of Internet radio.

The number of regular podcasts is well over 800 and growing daily. Many focus on gadgets, technology and podcasting itself. Others highlight new bands and music or discuss the latest developments in politics, movies and sports. There are podcasts for beer lovers and wine aficionados, even a few for astronomy buffs and for activities performed in the buff.

Productions range from stream-of-consciousness rants punctuated by "uhs" to highly professional shows complete with sound effects and music. Unlike radio, there's no time limit, deadlines or government oversight of what's said.

"There are going to be podcast stars who are just entertaining to listen to," said Adam Curry, a former MTV personality and a driving force behind podcasting. "There will be Howard Sterns who can use the seven dirty words on their shows."

Before podcasting arrived, Curry was frustrated by the state of broadcasting on the Internet, which is often done by streaming feeds. Unlike with traditional radio, streaming costs grow with the audience, and it's difficult for listeners to do save the show or do anything else with it afterward.

By comparison, regular downloads of audio files can be more evenly distributed over time and let listeners move programs to portable devices. Before podcasting, however, there was no simple mechanism to do that automatically.

Curry saw potential in a technology called Really Simple Syndication, or RSS, which automatically feeds text from Web logs and other sites to subscribers so they can read summaries from many sites at once.

After meeting with Curry in 1999, RSS co-inventor Dave Winer updated the protocol so that attachments, such as MP3 audio files, could be sent along with text.

But there was no program that could automatically transfer the files to a music player — until last summer when Curry taught himself the AppleScript programming language and created a small program called iPodder.

It caught the attention of programmers.

"Within in a week, not only had people improved the script dramatically, but they started creating their own versions in Python, Perl and Java" programming languages, Curry said. "A whole new category of software had been created."

Curry also started up a podcast, "Daily Source Code," to give the programmers something to listen to. But it didn't take long for other shows to appear.

"Basically, it was a radio show for a very small community, which just grew astronomically," he said. "Before I knew it, people were sending me links and clips from their own podcasts. We didn't even have the name `podcast' — we were calling them shows, audioblog posts all kinds of different names."

It was in a Sept. 15 online post that Dannie Gregoire of Louisville, Ky., coined "podcast."

When entered into a Google search, the word now returns 1.6 million results. Curry says his own podcast now has 50,000 listeners, and Gregoire has created a portal that organizes podcasts by content. A number of Web sites do the same, including Curry's and Patchett's

But is there money to be made? Maybe, podcasters say.

Gregoire, who runs one of the go-to Web sites for anyone interested in the phenomenon, says he's looking at a number of business models, including offering a service to host shows or simple tools to put them online.

"Even though it's relatively easy, there are still stumbling blocks," he said.

Real radio stations are also taking note. Public radio's WGBH in Boston has started podcasting its weekly "American Stories" segment, which saw its downloads jump from 30 downloads in the first week to 57,000 in December.

"Those are the kinds of trend lines that get your attention," said Bob Lyons, the station's director of radio and new media initiatives. "They certainly got ours."

The corporate world is also jumping in. Thomson Petersons, best known for its college guides and test-prep books, was expected to announce plans Tuesday to begin podcasting 10-minute audio files offering students general advice on college admissions, financial aid and standardized tests.

Podcasting isn't likely to threaten traditional broadcasting any time soon, as the number of digital music players is only in the tens of millions, compared with hundreds of millions of radios. But as the player market grows — and more devices such as cell phones become capable of play audio files — it could pull away advertising dollars, especially those that target younger generations.

Public radio is showing the most interest, both in distributing traditional programs as podcasts and looking for new voices.

"It's easier for us to jump into this because our profit model is still very similar to the profit model of podcasting, which is put something out there and then figure out how to ask money for it," said Brendan Greeley, site editor of the Public Radio Exchange, a distributor of programming.

Some podcasters still see podcasting as just a fun hobby.

Mark VandeWettering, a Pixar Animation Studios technical director, podcasts from his El Sobrante, Calif., home on a range of subjects, including fatherhood, baseball and telescope building.

"It would be great if I made a fortune doing it, but I don't see how that could possibly happen," he said. "I'm not really trying for it, either. I'm hoping to meet some interesting people and establish some good communications with people on weird topics."

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: applescript; broadcast; downloads; feeds; internet; ipod; ipods; podcast; radio; rss; streaming
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1 posted on 02/06/2005 11:55:01 PM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Super anarchism is taking over.

If the message is the medium and vica versa, as Mr.McLuhan opined then this example of yet another revolutionary advance in communications technology heralds the progression of even more immense changes to the world order.
2 posted on 02/07/2005 12:04:21 AM PST by Red Sea Swimmer
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3 posted on 02/07/2005 12:08:13 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (
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To: ajolympian2004
I listen to podcasts every single day, but they're all semi-legal rips of real radio shows. I've yet to find a pure podcast that's so appealing that I want to go out of my way to download it and listen to it on a regular basis.

The cost-reward ratio isn't all that good, either. Sure, it's fun to be able to play radio DJ, but once everyone starts realizing that only five people a day are listening to their shows and the numbers aren't growing, they're going to get disillusioned real quick. Yeah, Adam Curry can get 50,000 listeners a day, but not many others will. And once real radio shows start waking up to this concept and offering their own podcasts to the masses, that's what the masses are going to start listening to. Since there's only so much time per day anyone can spend listening to audio, the amateur podcasters are going to be the ones that listeners abandon.

In any case, in another two to three years or so Wi-Fi access will start to be available over large areas, and that's going to turn everything on its ear. Once you can stream anything into your car, all the rules will change.

4 posted on 02/07/2005 12:14:17 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Liberal radio can be summed up in five words: Dead air, um, dead air.)
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5 posted on 02/07/2005 12:30:22 AM PST by demitall
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To: Dont Mention the War

I live om Taiwan. Its one of the most wired places, wi-fi, on the planet.
A group expats who live here has decided that the so-called "expat: radio staion here, IRCT, does not serve our needs/wants. A gross understatement.
Just in the last 4 days an "Expat Radio Taiwan" has been established on Live365 website.
I listen to it thru a download of Jet Audio.
Its a start on its available to anyone.

6 posted on 02/07/2005 3:18:18 AM PST by Khurkris (That sound you hear coming from over the horizon...thats me laughing.)
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7 posted on 02/07/2005 3:31:14 AM PST by nathanbedford (The UN was bribed and Good Men Died)
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Bump your bookmark.

8 posted on 02/07/2005 3:39:32 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: ajolympian2004
stream-of-consciousness rants punctuated by "uhs"

James Carville has a show?

9 posted on 02/07/2005 4:13:05 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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10 posted on 02/07/2005 4:14:55 AM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: ajolympian2004

If a tree falls in a forest........

Ok - just WHO is listening?

11 posted on 02/07/2005 5:06:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Dont Mention the War
You've tried this . . can I ask you something ?

1) What if I take the Rush Limbaugh Internet feed and rip every segment into it's own MP3, making sure to skip the commercials, turn around a Podcast each segment as it's finished, I could have a show that's only time shifted 10-20 mins and available for all.

2) What if I just play back all the MP3s on my hard drive ?

In both situations, am I not inviting a lawsuit for distribution of copyrighted goods ?

12 posted on 02/07/2005 5:21:20 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Khurkris

I like ICRT, except for most of the music! But they have (or had) a guy on in the morning who would often play stuff from "off the list," though he used to catch flack for doing it.

13 posted on 02/07/2005 6:04:08 AM PST by zook
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14 posted on 02/07/2005 6:46:30 AM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: ChadGore; All
This is an excellent opportunity to bring the whole P2P thing into an forest vs tree situation. Several years ago, Rush came out against the napster concept, calling it stealing or something for nothing mindset.
He was concurrently extolling the virtues of tiVoing. How he was able to tiVo the football games and watch them without the commercials. I'm sure many of us have tried to contact Rush and chat regarding whatever issue on the table.
I tried to call and "debate" with him about the philosophy of P2P vs tiVo. How could he be against P2P yet support tiVo. Those football games are brought to the public by the dollars of the advertisers. To watch an event without watching the commercials is just as much stealing as filesharing. You're trying to get something for nothing.
Rationalize as much as you want, they are the same thing.
//stepping down from soapbox//
15 posted on 02/07/2005 11:14:22 AM PST by olde north church (Powerful is the hand that holds the keys to Heaven.)
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To: ChadGore
In both situations, am I not inviting a lawsuit for distribution of copyrighted goods ?

In the first situation, you would be, in theory. In reality, however, they'd probably never notice (or care, if they did notice) unless you started getting hundreds of thousands of downloads per day. But even then, all they'd do is send you a cease-and-desist letter. As long as you complied with that letter, they wouldn't waste the cash on a lawsuit.

In the second situation, however, it's perfectly legal. As long as the files are for your own personal use, you can play them back however you like. It's no different from buying one of those modified cassette decks that people use to record entire three-hour shows on one side of a tape, and they used to be a Rush advertiser. (Of course, there's also no way for them to even tell you saved the Internet stream to your hard drive in the first place.)

16 posted on 02/07/2005 11:46:42 AM PST by Dont Mention the War (Liberal radio can be summed up in five words: Dead air, um, dead air.)
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To: olde north church
To watch an event without watching the commercials is just as much stealing as filesharing. You're trying to get something for nothing.

That's the stupidest thing I ever read.

17 posted on 02/07/2005 11:57:32 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Dont Mention the War

Are there any Howard Stern Podcasts out there?

18 posted on 02/07/2005 11:59:54 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: ajolympian2004

Bookmarking for later...

19 posted on 02/07/2005 12:02:31 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Watch the commercials, visit the bathroom or make a sandwich during the game FREELOADER!!! ;)

20 posted on 02/07/2005 12:03:06 PM PST by socal_parrot
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