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2006 defense budget plan eliminates Navy aircraft carrier
Stars and Stripes ^ | February 8, 2005 | Jon R. Anderson

Posted on 02/07/2005 4:23:52 PM PST by Former Military Chick

ARLINGTON, Va. — The Navy will cut one of its 12 aircraft carriers, jettison more than 13,000 sailors from its active rolls and slow down the purchase of new ships and aircraft, according to the Navy’s portion of the 2006 defense budget proposal.

The good news, say service officials, is that with the extra $6.4 billion they’re getting over the $119 billion approved last year, they’ll be able to provide new special pay and bonus money, more housing allowances, stipends for living overseas as well as increases to fleet maintenance and training.

The proposal calls for increasing sailors’ base pay by 3.1 percent and civilian salaries by 2.3 percent.

Officials refused to announce which of the Navy’s 12 carriers would be cut.

The Mayport, Fla.-based USS John F. Kennedy and Japan-based USS Kitty Hawk are the fleet’s two oldest carriers and only remaining conventionally powered big decks.

Kitty Hawk, however, is already slated for decommissioning in 2008, the same year the next nuclear-powered carrier — the George H.W. Bush — comes online, leaving Kennedy as the most likely option.

Still, cautioned the officials amid reporter speculation, “some of our oldest carriers are not in the worst material condition.”

One official also hinted at a shakeup in homeports for the carrier fleet.

“Certainly there is concern at the Department of the Navy on having all of our carriers at one port,” the Navy official said, referring to the fleet concentrations in San Diego and Norfolk, Va. He said an environmental study had been earmarked in this budget to look at basing a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in Mayport.

“That’s certainly a consideration,” he said.

Whichever carrier is cut, its corresponding air wing will remain.

The long-term savings of cutting a carrier will be about $300 million per year, much of that coming from personnel savings, he said.

Those cuts will be part of the 13,200 sailors the plan would drop from active duty next year. The official said the service would save $404 million this year — and $1 billion a year after that — by cutting its active duty rolls from 365,000 to 352,700 next year.

While the Navy will be shrinking, that does not mean sailors should expect more time underway, he said.

“I don’t think any of this means more sea time,” the official said.

The Navy will add 23 new jets and helicopters to the fleet next year under the budget request as well as three surface combatants and two logistics ships. It will lose, however, a planned attack submarine, and the purchase of a slew of new ships and aircraft will be slowed down in the coming years.

In all, the fleet will go from 285 ships to 289 ships next year, if the budget is approved, but slowly increase to a planned 305 ships by 2011.

The Navy’s purchase of its new F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, which is set to replace four types of aircraft on the flightdeck, stays on course with another 38 strike fighters entering the fleet next year, plus another four of its radar-jamming variant.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Florida; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: budget; defensespending; navy; norfolk; sandiego; usn; ussgeorgehwbush; ussjohnfkennedy; usskittyhawk
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I will be curious to read what our Navy Freepers think of this?
1 posted on 02/07/2005 4:23:52 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

bzzzzz! WRONG ANSWER. Need four more carriers. CHINA!


2 posted on 02/07/2005 4:26:57 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: fooman

Cheap Hawkism will kill us.


3 posted on 02/07/2005 4:28:26 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Hope it was going to be the William J. Clinton carrier.....hahahaha


4 posted on 02/07/2005 4:36:55 PM PST by PubliusEXMachina (Ashely's Story)
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To: fooman
WRONG ANSWER. Need four more carriers. CHINA!

Agree completely - Surprisingly shortsightedness it seems coming out of the WH and Pentagon when it comes to the Navy - We definitely need an additional Two Carriers -

And the idea of using the F-18's to replace four different kinds of aircraft is just silly - (hell, the F-18's haven't lived up to their billing...once as is - They are a completely under performing aircraft).

Makes me wonder about Cheney's influence with regard to these manners - He was completely responsible for the utterly boneheaded decision to go with the F-18's over the an updated F-14's back in the 80's (a decision that has proven out to be utterly disastrous).

5 posted on 02/07/2005 4:37:25 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: Former Military Chick

The CNO is a COMPLETE JACKASS! A Re-Tred turd!


6 posted on 02/07/2005 4:39:02 PM PST by zzen01
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To: Former Military Chick
Works for me. Although as I mentioned on another thread on the same topic, I'd like to see us give the Australians the JFK, and eventually the Kitty Hawk.
We are on the verge of major changes in the Navy. The railgun which will revolutionize surface warfare is going to be on line in 4 or 5 years. The X-47B or an immediate descendant will also be on line in 5 or 6 years. Add to that the JSF in 3 years. Add to the mix unmanned submarines that can be operated from either another sub or a surface vessel, and the entire concept of Naval warfare will be turned on it's head.
Just a another technical tidbit - the current Aegis Cruisers and Destroyers can carry up to 4x the number of ESSMs as before. So 1 destroyer can carry almost 400 anti-aircraft missiles.
7 posted on 02/07/2005 4:39:09 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: Former Military Chick

The good news, say service officials, is that with the extra $6.4 billion they’re getting over the $119 billion approved last year, they’ll be able to provide new special pay and bonus money, more housing allowances, stipends for living overseas as well as increases to fleet maintenance and training.

This is NOT good news. We are just eating our seed corn.


8 posted on 02/07/2005 4:42:17 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Former Military Chick

Who drafts the defense budget?


9 posted on 02/07/2005 4:43:48 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (I am now a "SNAPDRAGON" Part of me has lost its snap and the other part is draggin')
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To: rbg81

All of this so we can take care of the WA WA Babies and Punk no leadership Officers we have in the Navy now.


10 posted on 02/07/2005 4:44:38 PM PST by zzen01
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To: DevSix

Cheney was a ABSOLUTE Disaster as Sec Def.


11 posted on 02/07/2005 4:46:25 PM PST by zzen01
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To: DevSix
He was completely responsible for the utterly boneheaded decision to go with the F-18's over the an updated F-14's back in the 80's (a decision that has proven out to be utterly disastrous).

Agreed. Phasing out the F-14 is a horrible decision. It's akin in some respects to a high speed Warthog: relatively inexpensive, reliable, maybe not state of the art, but with advanced weaponry nearly so. In fact, I don't regard the FA-22 to be enough of an advancement to justify the expense. I'd rather save that leap for an awesome supersonic drone.

12 posted on 02/07/2005 4:48:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: fooman
bzzzzz! WRONG ANSWER. Need four more carriers. CHINA!

We need 15 or 16 carriers, but we need to retire the old non nukes.

So9

13 posted on 02/07/2005 4:52:22 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Former Military Chick
Clinton tried to cut to 11 carriers, but Congress overrode him and demanded we keep 12.
I imagine they will override Bush too.

Thank Goodness.

So9

14 posted on 02/07/2005 4:54:04 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: ProudVet77

While these are great sounding technologies, I would wait until AFTER they are deployed to count productivity gains.

Look how the F22 and the B2 were delayed.


15 posted on 02/07/2005 4:56:11 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Servant of the 9

hooo rah!


16 posted on 02/07/2005 4:56:43 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Carry_Okie

The F/A-22 Raptor is actually a 6th generation plane - even with drones, we will always need manned fighters and that plane was our best hope for 1 standard plane across all branches. I am fascinated by the suggestion above to "give" carrier(s) to the Aussies though - what do you think about that move?


17 posted on 02/07/2005 4:59:25 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Carry_Okie
The F-14 was an enormous maintenance headache. The F-18 replaces the EA6, F-14 and the fueler. Much cleaner approach. (The F-14 and the A-10 Warthog could not be any further apart)
Part of the F-14 mission has been picked up by the SM-2 missile. Ultimately the JSF will also take on the role. The F-14, like the F-15, is one huge target in the sky. Stealth is the way to go. And for initial attack from a carrier, the X-47B should do nicely. Check out it's specs. http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/x47/
18 posted on 02/07/2005 5:05:21 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: ProudVet77

While the railgun development ("Sea Power 21") holds tremendous potential to completely revolutionize fire power, I don't feel the same X-47B (still 2 years down the road for demonstration flights). Don't you think we'll always need manned fighters on the scene, even if supplemented by UAV's?


19 posted on 02/07/2005 5:12:00 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: fooman
The lead time on a carrier is about 15 years. These technologies (most of them) are ready to be tested in the fleet now, deployed in a 3-5 year timeframe.
One technology I left out is the laser for missile defense. The Air Force is almost ready to put that bird in the sky. The THEL system has already been deployed to Israel. It would make a an effective CIWS for the fleet as well. Lets not forget the SSGNs. They have the ability to replace a carrier anyway. Not to mention the LHAs and LHDs which also carry Harrier jets.
20 posted on 02/07/2005 5:12:30 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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