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Columbia University Considers the Elimination of Israel
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | February 9, 2005 | Oleg Preusner

Posted on 02/09/2005 7:12:35 AM PST by SJackson

Panel presents a program calling for a "One State Solution.

Columbia University’s panel “One State or Two: Alternative Proposals for Middle East Peace” presented a biased, tendentious Israel-bashing program on Monday, January 31, that provided more heat than light. The very title was a dead giveaway: a one-state solution is widely understood to be a code word for the disappearance of the Jewish state and its replacement violently and/or demographically by an irredentist Palestinian majority.

The evening, nonetheless, began on a largely sober note with an overview of the Islamic Middle Ages by Professor Mark Cohen of Princeton. He spoke of the intolerance of monotheism, broad brushing all three Abrahamic faiths. He did, however, stress that Jews did a lot better under the Islamic rule during the Middle Ages than under Christianity. Anti-Jewish prejudices in the Middle Ages in the Islamic realm “did not have the same salience as anti-Semitism in Christian Europe,” he explained. He underscored dhimmitude (the second-class status of Jews and Christians—Peoples of the Book) as a relatively benign form of both ethnic toleration and social discrimination. Compared to the Catholic Inquisition, the poll tax and various other civic humiliations Jews suffered in the Arab world were fairly tolerable. After all, he reminded his audience, anti-Semitism, as such, came to the Arab in the nineteenth century largely via Christian Arabs and French missionaries in the Levant. Until then Jews had not been persecuted qua Jews, but simply as one disfavored minority among others.

Cohen differentiated two interpretations of Arab treatment of the Jews in the Middle Ages—the conflict school and the harmony school. The latter viewed social and economic attitudes towards minorities as on the whole friendly, if somewhat stern and discriminatory; the former as riddled with interminable dispute and socially sanctioned degradation. Adherence to the conflict school led by extrapolation to a preference for a contemporary two-state solution, while belief in the harmony school propelled one in the direction of the one-state alternative. Cohen, in the end, subscribing to the conflict school, favored the two-state solution to the present Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The harsher, ideologically accented part of the evening began with Dr. Rashid Khalidi’s presentation. He spent a few tortured minutes stating that the talk he was giving was not the talk he wished to present because of time limitations, implying that he had heavier artillery in store. He declared that he was not speaking in favor of any one solution and that he came with no concrete proposals for peace in hand. However, he quickly underscored that Israel’s national sovereignity was won at the expense of another people’s and that its continued appropriation of Palestinian land boded ill for the future. He said he was far more interested in structural rather than discursive features of the Middle East, in the actual reality on the ground—walls, watchtowers and roads—rather than declarations and demarches issued by the powers-that-be. Largely pessimistic about the future, he appeared dismissive of the recent warming in Israeli-Palestinian relations.

Dr. Khalidi proved to be mere preamble to Dr.Joseph Massad’s philippic against the Jewish state, which he declared in no uncertain terms had not only expelled the Palestinian Arab majority and confiscated its property, but continued to prevent its rightful return. He almost always prefixed or suffixed the phrase “the Jewish state” with such adjectives as “racist” or “apartheid.” Gaza and the West Bank were invariably termed “bantustans.” Any state defining itself as specially Jewish was, in Massud’s lexicon, ipso facto labeled racist and beyond the pale. The two-state solution, he argued, “was asking diaspora Palestinians to commit suicide.” Only within the confines of a bi-national state, he explained, “can Palestinians be repatriated… and Jews become equal citizens.” In order to bring this “equitable” solution about, Israel must be sufficiently weakened by boycott and divestment for starters. Only a change in the balance of power in the Middle East, Massad averred, could bring to fruition his longed-for solution. (Some might even be forgiven the unholy thought that Massad’s arguments necessitate Mossad’s existence).

Not to be undone, Dr. Ilan Pappe of Haifa University, who some have named “the Noam Chomsky of Israel,” gave his own gloss on history, promising to add further polish and refinement to Dr. Khalidi’s position. He quickly reminded his audience that Israel controls 80 percent of mandatory Palestine, while the Palestinians are stuck with a mere 20 percent. He selectively ignored the historically recognized fact that 80 percent of the Palestine promised to the Jews as their national home by Lord Balfour was lopped off by Winston Churchill in 1922 and given to the Arabs as the kingdom of Trans-Jordan.

Dr. Pappe’s heavily sardonic tone served to portray Israel in the worst possible light as a blunt force riding roughshod over liberty-loving Palestinians. He privileged the Palestinian right of return, while contradictorily insisting that nationalism was even a more baleful force in the world than religion itself. He too invoked apartheid imagery whenever and wherever possible, daubing South Africa and Israel with the same thick brush.

Dripping sarcasm, Pappe described an Israel desperate to “whiten” its population, searching high and low for light-skinned immigrants. To appreciative laughter, nods and titters from parts of the audience, he recounted Israel looking for possible “Hebraic” tribesmen in the mountain fastnesses of Peru, the alluvial plains of India and the equatorial heart of Africa to bring to the Jewish state, while obstinately refusing entry to Palestinian Arabs. “The preoccupation with Israeli demography is the basis of discrimination,” he further explained.

Dr. Pappe saw little hope for a two-state solution. “As a salesman,” he declared, “I would he hesitant to offer it.” Preventing millions of Palestinians from reclaiming their land and homes was so large and insufferable an injustice in his own mind that nothing short of comparison with Nazi Germany would do. The Haifa University professor concluded by saying that as long as Israel denies the “naqba” (Arab defeat of 1948), no peace can ever be achieved. It is much like asking “Israel and Germany to reconcile if Germany were today involved in Holocaust denial.”

Sponsored by Qanun (the Arab students in Columbia University’s School of Law), the Human Rights program of SIPA (Columbia’s School of Public Affairs), office of the University Chaplain, Student Services and the Student Senate, the evening, top heavy with rehearsed post-colonial rhetoric—the contemporary stock-in-trade of any number of academic satrapies—offered little in the way of balance, probity or human rights.


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1 posted on 02/09/2005 7:12:35 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

The only solution to the Israeli-Pali conflict will be a Victor's Peace. Its just a matter of picking sides now.


2 posted on 02/09/2005 7:14:34 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: SJackson
Columbia University Considers the Elimination of Israel

Let's consider the elimination of Columbia University.

3 posted on 02/09/2005 7:17:33 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions." -- Henry Camp !)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
4 posted on 02/09/2005 7:19:03 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: SJackson

Just goes to show you how far down the road to destruction our Nation has gone.

That a US university would actually consider the betrayal of a democratic ally in favor of Islamic radicalism is a blinding illustration of this point.


5 posted on 02/09/2005 7:19:24 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: SJackson

Oh, dhimmitude was better than the Inquisition, so they should just live with it, eh? That's like telling a woman she should go back to her first abusive husband, since her second one beats her even harder. What a bunch of.....


6 posted on 02/09/2005 7:19:57 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: SJackson
More antisemitism from Hooey University.
7 posted on 02/09/2005 7:24:11 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: FreeKeys

I can think of a few more universities to add to the list (to destroy)


8 posted on 02/09/2005 7:24:49 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SJackson
So Middle Age problems that happened 800 years ago (the Inquisition and Crusades!) are not only compared to today's vicious hatred and cultural Islamic warfare against Jews and Israel, but these speakers IGNORE today's very-real Christian (at least among conservative Christians at least) admiration and respect for Jews and Israel!

Then they repeat the lie that "poll taxes" (operated only among democrats many years ago) as justification/excuses for assuming that the violent hatred of Arabs against Jews does NOT exist!

These "professors" are claiming (lying actually) that the Jews would be better off under Arab rule because of "poll taxes" show Christians are prejudiced against Jews?
9 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:21 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: neverdem; NYC GOP Chick


10 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:47 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SJackson

How about moving Israel to the Texas-Mexican border! That would soolve part of our border problem.


11 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:56 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: SJackson
More and more university liberals are 'coming out of the closet' and demanding a "Final Solution" to the "Jewish problem'.
12 posted on 02/09/2005 7:25:58 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Fenris6; rmlew

I don't know which is worse: the fact that Massad is a tenure-track professor at Columbia (who has not yet come up for tenure, however) or the fact that among the sponsors of this farce include the Human Rights program of SIPA (Columbia’s School of Public Affairs), the office of the University Chaplain, Student Services and the Student Senate.

Where are the advocates of the one-state solution in which Israel would maintain its sovereignty over the land west of the Jordan River while granting internal autonomy to Palestinian Arabs?

Why was there no discussion of relocating Israel's nearly 1.5 million Palestinian Arab "refugees" (who, as refugees, disclaim any right to permanent settlement in their current location) to Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt or even Iraq?

When Columbia supports a program as tendentious as this one, it expends its intellectual capital. If it does this often enough, it will find that it has been diminished in formulating an academic approach to global political issues as much as CBS and The New York Times have in journalism.


14 posted on 02/09/2005 7:26:55 AM PST by Piranha
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To: SJackson

I would like to see Columbia University's army go head to head with Israel's.


15 posted on 02/09/2005 7:34:23 AM PST by lonerepubinma
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To: FreeKeys

Anyone have an email address for this worthless institution of brainwashing? The only solution to these Liberal traitors is to pull the $$$--they've been sucking off society too long.


16 posted on 02/09/2005 7:37:14 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SJackson

Elimination of Israel...what do they suggest the world do with Jews living there? Or anywhere else, for that matter, since that's the next step, elimination of Jews, period. Then it's elimination of Christians, Gypsies, blacks, those of mixed blood and anybody else Muslims don't like. This is so stupid, so insulting, everybody associated with it should be ashamed. Never mind, they probably all have tenure.


17 posted on 02/09/2005 7:39:19 AM PST by hershey
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To: SJackson
Memo to Columbia University
R.E. The elimination of Israel

It's been considered and rejected, go back to work.
18 posted on 02/09/2005 7:42:28 AM PST by RetroWarrior ("We count it death to falter, not to die")
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To: All

Let's see...the Jews are considered God's chosen people in the Bible (anyone who persecutes them is smoked)...and the Arab terrorists are "demons roaming the earth." My money is on the Jews!!!


19 posted on 02/09/2005 7:55:17 AM PST by PatriotBill
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To: SJackson

Recycling the same old, tired, anti-semitic propaganda.


20 posted on 02/09/2005 7:56:56 AM PST by thoughtomator (reporting from Cylon-occupied Caprica)
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To: SJackson
Another example of the brilliancy of another University which consists of brain dead professors.
21 posted on 02/09/2005 7:59:29 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: SJackson; Convert from ECUSA; Laffalot; Alouette; SirLurkedalot; yonif; anotherview; dervish; ...
"Columbia University Considers the Elimination of Israel"

Memo to Columbia University from Israel:


The God of Israel Considers the Elimination of Columbia University


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Israel Defense Forces and Israel ping list. Here you will find news, articles and fascinating stories about the IDF and Israel.



22 posted on 02/09/2005 8:01:15 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: SJackson
“was asking diaspora Palestinians to commit suicide.”

Now if only they would do it without harming others.

23 posted on 02/09/2005 8:36:23 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: SJackson

Don't forget the reasoning for lopping off most of Isreal and creating the nation of Trans-Jordan was to satisfy original claims by the Arabs for a Palestinian homeland... So - Jordan is the Palestinian homeland.


24 posted on 02/09/2005 8:41:54 AM PST by WomanBiologist
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To: SJackson
"He did, however, stress that Jews did a lot better under the Islamic rule during the Middle Ages than under Christianity"

Was this a veiled reference to some of the millions of people killed by the papacy across Europe and Mesopotamia.

25 posted on 02/09/2005 8:57:35 AM PST by patriot_wes (When I see two guys kissin..argh! Is puking a hate crime yet?)
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To: SJackson
...with an overview of the Islamic Middle Ages by Professor Mark Cohen of Princeton.

I will never cease to be amazed at the number of American Jews who work tirelessly to provoke and encourage other races, governments, and religions, to destroy all things Jewish in the world.
What a remarkable capacity for hatred and self-loathing they must possess, to demand the extermination and enslavement of their own extended family through the actions of others.

26 posted on 02/09/2005 8:59:16 AM PST by FreedomFarmer (Socialism is not an ideology, it is a disease. Eliminate the vectors.)
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To: FreedomFarmer

Cohen believes in the two-state solution. While the author lumps him in with the more radical speakers, his views don't seem to be anti-jewish.


27 posted on 02/09/2005 9:06:46 AM PST by LiveBait
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To: IAF ThunderPilot; Alouette; SJackson; Salem; SirLurkedalot; Yehuda; anotherview; ...

The gentleman from Virginia seconds the memo to Columbia University from the gentleman from Israel. BAM - as Emeril Lagasse would say.


28 posted on 02/09/2005 9:38:04 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: Fenris6

Seems to me that's been happening as long as I've been alive. A victor's peace because the Arabs are irrational, dishonest and unethical. Everyone knows this. But people have that ability to be like ostriches. We are doing that right here in the good old USA with the same attitude. The Jews can bury their heads in the sand of the desert they turned into an oasis. They can give back their victor's spoils and try to make peace. Hopefully the Arabs won't destroy them in the process.


29 posted on 02/09/2005 9:45:56 AM PST by The Westerner
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Heh, the ultimate ZOT.


30 posted on 02/09/2005 12:31:27 PM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: FreedomFarmer
>>>>>I will never cease to be amazed at the number of American Jews who work tirelessly to provoke and encourage other races, governments, and religions, to destroy all things Jewish in the world.What a remarkable capacity for hatred and self-loathing they must possess, to demand the extermination and enslavement of their own extended family through the actions of others.<<<<<

A fellow Freeper used the term "people born into Jewish families" for such moral cripples.

They are not Jews, they have only Jewish name, sort of cheap booze put into an expensive bottle. And they sell that name well to the highest bidder, mostly to Saudi-financed muslim terrorist cause of Palestine, Kosovo, Bosnia, you name it.

Some of them have even converted into Islam, like Suleyman Ahmad Stephen Schwantz

while keeping Jewish name for the outside world.

In the 1930's people like them did nothing to help Jews of Europe. (e.g. they could damage SS St. Loius" to give an excuse for disembarkment in American waters). They did nothing to spread the truth about Nazi horrors ( nazi extermination camps were menitioned for the first time in 1942 on the back pages of NYT). Yet, many lined up to collect the windfall of The holocaust reparations.

Their actions are cold-blooded. New Shoah is new business opportunity for them.

31 posted on 02/09/2005 12:35:51 PM PST by DTA
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To: SJackson

Odd that their "One State" possibilities don't include the elimination of the Palestinian political body. Must've been an oversight.


32 posted on 02/09/2005 1:23:56 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Fight chaya with chaya!


33 posted on 02/09/2005 2:44:51 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: SJackson; Fenris6; FreeKeys; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; ...
Yes, the situation is difficult at Columbia. Frontpagemag.com , Campus-watch.org, the NY Sun, and Columbians for Academic Freedom have been covering this.

On the other hands, Bat Ye'or spoke at Columbia yesterday without incident.
34 posted on 02/09/2005 3:50:57 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Nice.


35 posted on 02/09/2005 3:54:35 PM PST by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Anyone have an email address for this worthless institution of brainwashing?

I'm sure you can scavenge some here: http://www.columbia.edu/faculty_staff/index.html

(Whenever I want to find out about a school, I type www.nameofschool.EDU , hit Enter, and see what happens.)

36 posted on 02/09/2005 5:49:37 PM PST by FreeKeys (Evaluate colleges HERE: http://www.collegeguide.org/asking.html)
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To: Fenris6

Perhaps we could declare a policy of irredentism with respect to Columbia and reclaim the territory and install us irredentas.


37 posted on 02/09/2005 7:35:27 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: SJackson; yonif; Happy2BMe; Simcha7; American in Israel; spectacularbid2003; Binyamin; ...
'Bump!'





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38 posted on 02/09/2005 7:44:58 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: upcountryhorseman

They'd only give it away like they are giving away their own nation.


39 posted on 02/09/2005 9:29:17 PM PST by Yehuda (AMERICA: LAND OF THE FREE, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: BenLurkin
More and more university liberals are 'coming out of the closet' and demanding a "Final Solution" to the "Jewish problem'.

Well said. I think you bullseyed that shot.

40 posted on 02/09/2005 9:38:18 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Piranha
Why was there no discussion of relocating Israel's nearly 1.5 million Palestinian Arab "refugees" (who, as refugees, disclaim any right to permanent settlement in their current location) to Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt or even Iraq?

For some reason, it is always simpler to relocate 6 million Jews to nowhere than 1.5 million Arabs back to where they came from in a bigots mind.

41 posted on 02/09/2005 9:39:53 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SJackson

The Islamic-leftist alliance in all it's glory. On campus of course


42 posted on 02/10/2005 12:36:47 AM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: SJackson
The left is anti-semitic pure and simple. It is time to call a spade a spade.
43 posted on 02/10/2005 12:41:26 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: PatriotBill
What is irrational about the Left's logic is it condemns the civilized for being civilized and encourages the madmen to continue their madness. That's the problem with the irrational Left, this is racist anti-semitism pure and simple, and it is just another manifestation of this irrationalism.
44 posted on 02/10/2005 1:02:55 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: SJackson

I often contemplate a world without Columbia Univ...what a coincidence!


45 posted on 02/10/2005 1:04:36 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: Yehuda
Actually, I was being facisious. I know it's a very serious
situation. I'm not sure there is enough land to handle two
states.
46 posted on 02/10/2005 8:58:48 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: FreedomFarmer

The secularist view is that true advancement in the fields of science and sociology and a more-perfect world can come about only by the elimination of the destructive myths that both separate people in peace and engage them in war; lasting peace can be brought only by a common goal of man's worship of mankind and nature.


47 posted on 02/10/2005 9:37:19 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: Old Professer

"destructive myths "

meaning religion


48 posted on 02/22/2005 5:58:57 PM PST by sageb1
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