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New Genetics Study Undermines Gay Gene Theory ^ | February 9, 2005 | Warren Throckmorton, Ph.D. & Durwood Ray, Ph.D.

Posted on 02/09/2005 4:28:55 PM PST by dcnd9

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To: punster

and the citations are?

Rats are not humans.

The human brain develops outside the womb after birth so mere physical development inside the womb is not enough.

Sorry but I have yet to see ANY credible developmental evidence as you cite.

61 posted on 02/09/2005 7:45:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
If desires and/or impulses cannot be controlled, it is a crime against humanity to define anything that poor helpless humanity does as a crime.

Perhaps I phrased that badly. *Having* certain feelings and impulses can't be controlled. *Acting* on them can be.

62 posted on 02/09/2005 7:46:43 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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63 posted on 02/09/2005 7:56:38 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Dems! Show us your exit plans for Germany,Japan, Bosnia ,S. Korea and we'll show you ours for Iraq.)
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To: longtermmemmory

One more research paper, published in Nature in 1995, deals with the brains of transgendered individuals. The researchers dissected the brains of a number of deceased transgendered persons, MTF and FTM, as well as the brains of some gay and lesbian indivuals and heterosexual men and women.

1. The BSTC region for heterosexual women was distinctly different from heterosexual men, being smaller with a high statistical significance.

2. The BSTC region in MTF transgendered individuals was in the normal range for women. The BSTC was actually smaller than heterosexual women, but not significantly so.

3. The BSTC region on lesbians and FTM transgendered individuals was closer to that of heterosexual men.

4. The BSTC region for homosexual males was slightly larger than that of heterosexual males, but not significantly so. However, there may be a saturation effect involved, that the BSTC development rapidly maxes out beyond the heterosexual male range.

One of the conclusions is, prenatal condictions most probably sets the stage for the direction of the future development of the brain and human sexuality.

As always, more research needs to be done.

64 posted on 02/09/2005 8:05:46 PM PST by punster
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To: ThinkDifferent

You can choose what you eat.

65 posted on 02/10/2005 2:54:33 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: dcnd9

Not only were earlier studies crappy science and biased to favor a pre-determined conclusion, they are also looking in the wrong place. When they figure out why some folks prefer chocolate over vanilla, then they'll be able to figure out the gay thing. Can I get a grant over here please?

66 posted on 02/10/2005 4:42:44 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: MikeinIraq

And you know this how?

67 posted on 02/10/2005 8:59:14 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: mlc9852

The same sex behavior is a choice. The abnormal condition of attraction however is not. Therefore just like any other abnormal propensities the behavior can be overcome as long as one desires to change it.

68 posted on 02/10/2005 9:01:15 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: blackie

Blunt and true!

69 posted on 02/10/2005 9:02:11 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: MarineBrat

Well said...simple and to the point.

70 posted on 02/10/2005 9:03:27 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: mississippi red-neck

Actually, he is a secular researcher and is making great strides because his work is presented objectively and not based on faith.

71 posted on 02/10/2005 9:05:14 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: scripter

Totally agree. These are great resources. Too bad the schools won't allow the other side to be told. So it's up to all of us to help those with SSA and tell them they don't have to succumb!

72 posted on 02/10/2005 9:07:14 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9

just look around....does it feel like wintertime should? I guess it being cold is a sign of global warming too right?

being gay is a choice, it is not a genelogical thing at all. The science that proved this theory was politically motivated.

73 posted on 02/10/2005 9:17:13 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State the 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

I am not disagreeing with you. I was just trying to understand you. The condition of being atrracted to the same sex is not a choice however the behavior is and therefore those with SSA should be told the truth. They can overcome those abnormal feelings. The gay activist and society have shoved it down their throats telling them it's who they are and they should just accept it.
I don't agree. Change is a very real choice but takes a lot of hard work.

74 posted on 02/10/2005 10:06:10 AM PST by dcnd9
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To: dcnd9
because his work is presented objectively

In other words he's a scientist.

75 posted on 02/10/2005 10:11:06 AM PST by mississippi red-neck
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76 posted on 02/10/2005 10:34:14 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: bolobaby
You mean... *gasp*... it may actually be a chemical imbalance and not an on/off genetic trait???

No he means that it is the result of trauma caused mental disease. There's no biological component to it whatsoever

77 posted on 02/10/2005 12:01:46 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

See my post #33 as to my theories on homosexuality.

78 posted on 02/10/2005 12:06:17 PM PST by bolobaby
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To: dcnd9

The truth will set you free!

Some people can't handle the truth!

Be Ever Vigilant!

79 posted on 02/10/2005 12:19:05 PM PST by blackie
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To: bolobaby
Individuals who are biologically homosexual are hormonally/chemically *different* than heterosexual people. This MAY be caused by the genetic makeup of the individual, but something within their system does not functional normally. The resulting chemical imbalance alters their sexual preferences.

except that no study has ever shown any link or suggestion of as link to this. A chemical imbalance would have to be a genetic error and there is no genetic component (as shown in the study being discussed in this thread)

What has been shown as far as male SSADs go is that all of them (say 99.5%) share one of the fallowing characteristics. 1. Been molested or abused. 2. HAve absent or insufficent relationship with ones father.3 Suffered relentless teasing from their peers during the formative years

Most female SSADs have been molested. Some just choose to be 'lesbian' for convenience or because they hate men.

All 'homosexuals' are mentally ill, that is why they choose that behavior

80 posted on 02/10/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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