Parents Protest Student computer ID tags

This is a terrible idea and unconstitutional also, IMO. We do not need more government in our life. I do not think that it is a viable solution to anything.
We used to maintain discipline in schools with out tracking devices, we used something called respect for authority. We have a societal problem in this country and tracking devices, PC, tolerance, etc, are part of the problem not the solution.

Until we start to instill values into our children at an early age we will never solve the problem. This has to start at home.

Liberals have taken religion, regardless of what type, but mainly christianity, out of our daily lives for the most part and replaced it with the values of self. This is the main problem.

Restore values and you will restore respect for authority and have better behaved children and no need for tracking devices. This is heading for a totalitarian government at light speed.

Beautiful reply Calex! That's true. Many good responses on here by the way.

Would you have kids in school receive the full protection of the bill of rights?

Yes.

Or would most Freepers prefer to see the schools a little more chaotic?

I would prefer to see schools teaching kids why we threw off the yoke of the English in the first place, not Applied Orwell 101.

I guess I am also sorry that the human element has vanished as the teachers got more control over their assignments and the union got more control over the administrators.

The teachers should have control over the assignments. And throwing in the anti-union sentiment that is popular around here does nothing to refute the argument that we are not teaching kids to value freedom.

The teachers should have control over the assignments

By this I meant hall duty assignments, its not so good that they can decide this is not part of their contract.

I agree that schools should teach valid history, and they could even discuss whether lockers should be private, or remain the property of the schools. You could review the search and seisure laws and see whether they apply to school age kids, and under what instances the school authorities may search a kid's backpack.

Your answers sound like it would be tough on teachers, but I guess you can have the point. Kids in decades past were not searched by school personnel I guess? What age would you say the bill of rights applies? What about parents looking in a kids room? How far does this go?

I went to school in the 90s and had my locker searched and a newspaper story censored. They searched our cars once, too. I live in a very low-crime area, so the searches were just to keep us on our toes. They found pot in one kid's car. Good thing they found that. Who knows if the school would have survived if he had kept smoking pot.

I disagree that the school has parental rights. A parent can spank a kid, but the school is rapidly losing that right. A parent should be able to toss the kid's room up. The school, which is an arm of government, should have to get a search warrant. Unfortunately, the supreme court rarely agrees with my expert Constitutional interpretations, mostly because they are statists and don't want to undercut government power.

Unfortunately, the supreme court rarely agrees with my expert Constitutional interpretations, mostly because they are statists and don't want to undercut government power.

I don't know if its been to the supreme court yet? I know that at work we were given security locks to keep classified data in. Only the security officer had the combination. We used these "safes" for very valuable things in addition to classified papers, one employee had a diamond necklace in his safe when it was inspected for a security audit. After this we were all told the safe was the company's property and we could be fired for keeping personal stuff there. Likewise they could search briefcases and cars. We knew all this when we went to work there and undoubtably signed some consent somewhere along the way. I think this is how to handle school kids, let them sign contracts, get their parents to sign too, since kids are not of legal age, and have them understand what "rights" they have and what they must live by to attend the school. Some schools have these contracts, they also delineate the punishment for bringing a weapon to school for example, it still does not sink in to kids cause they are (many of them) too immature to understand what they agree to and what the consequences will be.

I know its a government school, but this is something that is handled with local control. Schools in high crime areas DO have a drug problem, and while kids could handle their dealings on the street, most of the dealing is done right under the noses of the school administration. Additionally when a kid reports a valuable thingy has been stolen, there may be a cause for a search warent. I don't know how much good having the kid's family go to a judge would be, but kids who steal things (that other kids should not bring to school anyway) should get caught and be expelled. The punishment should fit the crime. Involving the higher levels of society, like police, DA's and judges would be a learning experience but many in school are not ready to be taught this lesson. When the school handles it, often times there is no permanent record, so the kids may come out of it better off than if the criminal justice system was used.

As a parent, I would be in favor of having my children’s movements monitored at school or in other places where they are in a large group of children. I remember being in school, and the constitution has not changed much since then. Schools do drug tests, locker and bag searches, and have the right to expel students that won't comply. This is to protect other students as well as teachers and property.

I also remember being in school and having a large amount of time wasted by educators as they counted heads. Giving teachers more time to teach and less distractions to that task is only bad if you don’t like what is being taught, but that is a different discussion.

Just like people on the internet thinking that they are anonymous, kids sometimes get this impression when they are out of sight of the teacher. I am for accountability. This does not limit freedom. Our kids can still try to sneak into the other gender's locker room, but I want them to face the consequences of those decisions. Then they will have the chance to learn from their mistakes and this is what school is for, learning.

Sadly, many people feel that the constitution guarantees us the freedom from the consequences of our actions. This is not the case, and is part of the moral breakdown that you complain about. But instead of championing the schools to try to use this RFID tool, you attack it as well. The same people that complain about the problem are complaining about the potential solutions to it.

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