Posted on 02/10/2005 6:45:46 PM PST by NormsRevenge
adding to the pings
HAHAHAAaaa. Arnold is VONDERBAR! :)
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I'll second your comments re: stepping up to the plate and play hardball.
While I don't think he is a Hiram Johnson nor need he be necessarily,, as long as he patsycakes with the dems, we are losing more and more ground.. (no pun intended there about loss of ground and any connection to the SNC)
This state is sitting on so many ticking timebombs,, time is a wasting,, even now the dems are running legal actions to drastically reduce fund-gathering to push for reform initiatives in the fall.. not to worry tho, the money will be raised one way or another. You know the unions and CTA are coffer ready.
The dems have made no serious efforts to even consider real reform.. they pay lip service to change.. and here we sit with their legacy of deficits and schools barely able to teach the real assets and future of California, the children.
As if the chunk of what schools get is not massive enough for the unions to divvy up already,, you see why these battles need to happen..
Even peRATa was conciliatory re: Prop 98 needing some work done.
Hey Sierra, if it was his veto pen cutting spending, I'd be cheering.
In this case, two of those fired were republicans and all of them are put there in a 'fiduciary' role, not just to implement his plan.
From what I've seen of this plan, it's gonna cost more and the power shift to NY Banking firms is gonna be bad for California. What am I missing?
Now, if he ousted his appointee on CALPERS, Willie Brown, I would also cheer (fiduciary duty, or not! lol).
Norm, you khow the answer to your questions....they are getting a large percentage of their final salary.....three or four times the avg social security plan holder
My understanding is that is for very few of the population, not the majority (specifically, the "public safety" workers). Those extreme cases are the ones that need to be changed.
Calstrs is teachers, Calpers is state and local govt employees.....some of the rates are jumping up to 17% of salary because of sweetened benefits that were passed, and losses in the dotcom bust.
That is breaking budgets all across the state.
City of LA has their own plan, as do other big cities. San Diego recently disclosed they were still paying over 100 dead retirees from their pension plan, which is $1 billion in debt.
They weren't fired.
They were terminated by the Terminator!
But at this point, It's getting to the point where it doesn't matter as long as the supposed "celebrity action figure" has finally produced some possible action that can unequivocably be interpreted by his entrenched adversaries as the slightest bit PRO Fiscal Conservatism!!!
All that borrowing to forstall the pain and avoid upsetting his entrenched adversaries is NOT what I perceived the citizens/taxpayers and all other voters in the historic Recall were truly expecting!!!
All that borrowing was born out of his inordinate fear that actually going the "CUT, CUT, CUT!" route would possibly cause his entrenched adversaries to not invite him to their next glitzy function with lotsa photo-ops!!!
Meahwhile, I see what small semblance of what used to be Republican "Leadership," hanging onto the big celeb's coat-tails, like Tim Leslie and the other overweight dude from the overweight southland, hoping and preying on any cigars, or other insignificant morsels that may fall from the rich celeb's table for them to gobble up!
So far There's only ONE EXCEPTION to this behavior and I don't want to mention any names, but his initials are........ Tom McClintock!!! Who, by the way, shows me more courage, both personal, but especially political, in his little pinky that the big oaf has in his entire being!!!
We didn't have the time, nor the money for this run up to and beyond the brink of bankruptcy, just to keep from frightening Arnold's entrenched adversaries a little bit!!! They were the danged problem, even more than Gray Davis!!!
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