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Dog Soldiers of the American Indian Movement (AIM)
Vanity | 2-`0-05 | Vanity

Posted on 02/10/2005 8:44:07 PM PST by Snapple

An Indian publication points out that when he speaks Colorado's radical professor Ward Churchill is "shielded apparently by his own American Indian Movement (AIM) security team." http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410293


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: academia; aim; american; americanindians; churchill; dog; enemaofthepeople; indian; movement; soldiers; ward; wardchurchill
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To: Chad Fairbanks

I think you have to look at the court testimony to see what stands up to the evidence. Peltier has said so many contradictory things.

It was his gun.

For the court records see

http://www.noparolepeltier.com

I read that Ward Churchill is the one who orchestrated the Mr X interview, but I don't know.

Lee Hill is the one who promoted the Mr X stuff.

Do a search with lee hill peltier mr x

The Mr X stuff is so retarded. A guy puts on a mask and claims he shot the FBI guys. Doesn't give his name. Doesn't talk to the cops. Doesn't have to come into court.

And Mathiessen puts it in his book like it is actually evidence.

This MR X stuff was just like the fake witness Lee Hill brought forward. Her name was Nancy Krebs.

When the police and FBI didn't find her credible, this was
considered "proof" of a cover-up by the authorities of a ring of pedophiles.

And of course Lee Hill is now hiding from the police.


41 posted on 02/13/2005 8:48:32 AM PST by Snapple
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To: trubluolyguy

I have been saying over and over that the Indians can't stand Churchill.

They have been on to him for a long time. He caused the Indians a lot of trouble.

Liberal or conservative, no normal human being could have anything but contempt for Churchill.

I feel it is the {mostly liberal) professors that are going to expose Churchill.

They are looking at plagiarism, I read/heard on TV.

I think AIM basically plagiarized the Osage Indian murders FBI file.

There is also a report that there is this anthology of writers that Churchill had an article in. There are claims that he also basically told the other contributors what to write. I don't know if this is true or not.

Churchill is the purveyor of the BIG LIE. He needs to be exposed and they need to catch Lee Hill.


42 posted on 02/13/2005 8:56:06 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple
There are a lot of nice Indians.

Thank-you for the kind words.............

43 posted on 02/13/2005 9:07:31 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Political interest can never be separated in the long run from moral right" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Snapple

Hmm... what is interesting is that looking through those court files, I see a lot of "the test was inconclusive" type stuff from the ballistics expert, who only matched the extractor, and not the firing pin...


44 posted on 02/13/2005 9:13:42 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple
They are looking at plagiarism, I read/heard on TV. I think AIM basically plagiarized the Osage Indian murders FBI file.

The plagiarism they are looking at has NOTHING to do with Pine Ridge... geez. How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in? They are looking at plagiarism accusations from a New Mexico Native Professor, who's work was "lifted" by Churchill...

45 posted on 02/13/2005 9:15:11 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple

This is the only article I could find on his legal trouble, and it is easily over two years old... So, got any links to information that he's "currently wanted by the police" and is a fugitive, or did you pull that out of empty air?

http://www.boulderweekly.com/archive/080802/newsspin.html

Lee Hill charged with felony
Wife says police exploited her to "get" Hill

by Wayne Laugesen

Famed defense lawyer and former federal prosecutor W. Lee Hill faces felony charges after an arrest Friday, Aug. 2, following a scuffle with his wife at their northeast Boulder home. Hill, 43, stands charged with felony menacing and misdemeanor assault. He's free on $1,500 bond.

Police insist Hill-friend and lawyer to beatnik poets and movie star Steven Seagal-pulled his wife's hair and held her down during an argument Friday night. During the scuffle, police say, Hill grabbed a 9-mm Glock handgun and ordered his wife to leave the house. His wife, Bonnie Hill, says the police have it wrong and that she was the aggressor.

"I was angry and out of control, and he attempted to calm me down," Bonnie Hill, 31, told Boulder Weekly. "When he grabbed my wrist, it threw me into a rage. I get that way when I'm angry. Looking back, I realize that Lee was trying to help."

Lee Hill says Bonnie was packing up the couple's possessions for a move. She had been placed on new anti-depression medication, and it was proving to agitate her. At one point, Lee Hill says, Bonnie became frustrated and started dumping the contents of packed boxes on the floor.

"I asked her to stop doing that," Lee Hill says. "She flew out of control in a violent rage. I tried to calm her down and was trying to hold her so she would not injure either of us."

Bonnie suffered scrapes and scratches on her arms and Lee suffered scratches on his face and chest, and a bleeding contusion to his lip.

"He's a lot more injured than I am, and now he's not so handsome," Bonnie says, laughing. "I think I gave him a concussion, too."

Lee Hill says he trained Bonnie in self defense, which is why she was able to injure him during her fit of rage.

"The training I had given her made it difficult for me to calm her down without both of us incurring some injuries," Hill says. "She did give me a concussion, precisely because I tought her how to do that to someone with the proper blow to the head."

Lee's guns and knives were out of their normal storage areas so they could be packed for the move, the couple says. Lee says the Glock in question was on a table nearby, and he was concerned about it because of the turmoil.

"I handed the gun to my mother and asked her to get it out of the room, in the interest of her safety, Bonnie's safety and my safety," says Hill, who began carrying weapons while working as a federal narcotics prosecutor. Bonnie says Lee pointed the gun at her, but only in self-defense.

"I understand why he did that, because I was raging and I was standing right next to most of his guns and knives, which we had been preparing to pack," Bonnie says. "I was not frightened when he pointed the gun, because he had every reason to point it at me. He felt threatened because I was in a rage, right next to all those weapons. I knew he was just protecting himself, and that he would never shoot me."

Lee says Bonnie may have perceived that the gun was pointed at her, as he picked it up and passed it to his mother, because it's difficult at a distance to see the true trajectory of a handgun.

Lee and Bonnie say they agreed to call the police, after things calmed down, because the scuffle had created a lot of noise. When police arrived, Hill was waiting for them outside the home.

"Police were directing me to say things about being scared," says Bonnie, who argues that her statements about fear are crammed into the police report, as afterthoughts, because they came after police read her initial statement and then put words into her mouth. "I was never afraid, I was angry. I was in a bad mental state, and they manipulated me against Lee, telling me what to say in the report. I'm very angry with the police."

Bonnie says at least one police officer told her mother-in-law, who was at the home, that "Asian women are crazy and wild." Bonnie Hill is Chinese.

Hill says the detective at the scene, Tom Trujillo, may have a grudge against him because of a past disagreement. Two years ago, Lee Hill was protecting and representing a possible witness in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case who feared for her life. Trujillo blew her cover, Hill says, by contacting authorities in California, who passed the information to people the witness feared most-family members who had filed a missing person's report.

"I yelled at Tom Trujillo for 10 minutes about the way he handled that, and (former) District Attorney Alex Hunter was present for the whole thing," Hill says.

Lee and Bonnie Hill have lived separately, by court order, since the arrest and are forbidden from contacting one another.


46 posted on 02/13/2005 10:00:38 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3556

This is on the Internet, but to be sure you could call the Boulder police.


47 posted on 02/13/2005 10:44:30 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Snapple

There's far more than two AIM chapters, just so you know; I used to speak regularly to Fern Matthias, who was one of the acting leaders of Los Angeles AIM. (She passed away a couple years ago, though. Shame; she was probably one of the most level-headed and active Indian activists I've ever met.) There's AIM chapters in virtually every major city of the US, not only in two locations. There's quite a few chapters out of the US, too. And for the most part, yes, they're autonomous.

However, the vast majority of them take their cues from the northern plains tribal activities (especially on Pine Ridge - which is just a hotbed of nastiness in a lot of cases), or they focus all of their attention on Leonard Peltier's case or on the mascot issues. A few of the AIM groups do silly things, too - like the California groups, which want to regulate the sale of sage and tobacco because they're sacred. And then there's a couple AIM groups who just want Native folks to overcome their difficulties and find a better way of life.

Leonard Peltier is not a leader of AIM. Many people, due to the Wounded Knee 1973 scenario, respect Peltier and do not want him to be imprisoned. But this doesn't mean that he's considered a leader of any given AIM chapter or AIM organization, regardless of how often his name's bandied about. Heck, his name was on the ballot for the Presidential election last year (at least, here in CA it was)... and he's still in prison. Doesn't sound like he's doing too well at leading.

One other note: not all AIM groups fight with each other, or are made up of ex-cons, terrorists, or drug dealers. Heck, the AIM chapters in Germany (I still get a kick out of the American Indian Movement being active in other countries) tend to be made up of Indian hobbyists who just want Native Americans to have it better than they do now.

The problem with a psuedo organization like AIM - which, by the by, has no official leadership except for whoever's got the biggest mouth (and trust me, after meeting most of the AIM "leadership", I can tell you they've got big mouths and very little to no brains as an average rule) and who can garner the most on-TV or on-radio time. This is why John Trudell's still considered a major AIM activist... he's a musician, so he attracts radio time.

Very few of the thousands of AIM members are goons with guns. You're thinking of the Pine Ridge arguments, which have nothing to do with AIM, but which have everything to do with who supposedly was at Pine Ridge during Wounded Knee 1973. And it's amazing how many hundreds of people claim to have been there, when in actuality there were only 30-40 people who were involved in the standoff.


48 posted on 02/14/2005 1:51:17 AM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Snapple
Personally, both kind of scare me. They fight with each other for power and call their opponents FBI spies.


Churchill's group called Anna an FBI spy. They killed her.
49 posted on 02/14/2005 10:00:11 AM PST by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: Ladypixel

I used the wrong word when I said chapters. I know they are all over. The Boulder Denver chapter and the Minneapolis people don't recognize each other. So there seem to be two AIM organizations both claiming to be the "one true AIM."

I am sure most people have good motives. I am focusing on some troublesome personalities.

They all claim to be AIM however.


50 posted on 02/14/2005 1:57:56 PM PST by Snapple
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To: mugs99

There were not two AIM organizations when she was killed.
I am pretty sure of this. I think the split came around '93 but I would have to look it up.

She was driving around with people who had explosives in their cars/vans.

It is a mistake to hang out with criminals.

The killer was only reently caught after about 25 years.
They are still after a second person I think. Denver Post carries the stories on this.


51 posted on 02/14/2005 2:01:54 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

Thanks again. You sound very informed.


52 posted on 02/14/2005 3:29:04 PM PST by Snapple
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To: Ladypixel

Finally, a level-headed post from someone about indians, and AIM... I'm actually shocked.

My grandfather, and his brother, were active AIM in the 70s - They weren't thugs, or criminals, or anything like that, either...


53 posted on 02/14/2005 10:24:03 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple

It's been a long hard fight for justice for Anna Mae - regardless of who she "hung around with" or associated with, no one deserves to be shot in the back of the head and left for dead on the plains... and what happened to her AFTER she died was even worse - Died of "Exposure"?

What a joke. I guess according to the government coroner, "exposure" meant you could see inside her head, and it's contents were exposed...

However, it's good to see that finally, after over two decades, people in power FINALLY decided to do something about the murder of an Indian. They "solved" the case with their dead agents in a matter of days, of course...


54 posted on 02/14/2005 10:28:02 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks



I have to add that they had a reasonable dislike of the federal government, and I don't blame them one bit - I distrust it too, for the most part. The bureaucracy, mostly. Probably explains why I'm a conservative ;0)


55 posted on 02/14/2005 10:30:17 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple
It was these Dog Soldiers who kidnapped and murdered an AIM activist Anna Mae Aquash.

It was a couple of punk kids who WANTED to be considered "Dog Soldiers", in the vein of the old Cheyenne Warrior Society... They were not "Dog Soldiers". They were murderous cowards, unlike the real Dog Soldiers of history.

But I think you've been told this before ;0)

56 posted on 02/14/2005 10:33:51 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Ladypixel

Well, you nailed it, except for one small part - the so-called existence of "Dog Soldiers" within AIM was an FBI fabrication - for what purpose, I don't recall, but it later came out that the FBI had bad data, and it was, shall we say "exaggerated" .


57 posted on 02/14/2005 10:36:07 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: Snapple
I used the wrong word when I said chapters. I know they are all over. The Boulder Denver chapter and the Minneapolis people don't recognize each other. So there seem to be two AIM organizations both claiming to be the "one true AIM."

Yeah, that's part of it - most of the various chapters claim to be part of the "one true AIM". But as a general rule, they're all pretty disorganized as a whole, no matter which chapter it is. Having had some interaction with the Denver cluster, I can say that they tend to be far more confused than most of the other groups I've had interaction with... and no surprise there; they've got Churchill there, and he's a walking confusion maker.

I haven't had much interaction with the Minneapolis folks, so I can't speak about them with as much certainty... but if I'm not mistaken, they're the ones who the press contacts for comments when an AIM group does something that hits the media.

AIM's got big problems, and not the least of 'em are the bad apples that spoil the bunch. Unfortunately, what good they /do/ accomplish is warped by that handful of idiots (like Churchill), who wave the name of the organization like a banner. Hopefully, all of this chaos will cause folks to actually try to organize a little better... and with luck, the ongoing chaos won't just continue to backlash against the rest of 'em.
58 posted on 02/15/2005 4:39:50 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Snapple
Thanks again. You sound very informed.

*grin* Well, I rather have to be. I deal with Native American stuff on a daily basis for work, and I'm around the southern California tribal community near-constantly, so let's just say I hear what comes through on the moccasin telegraph. And believe me, I'm hearing alllll sorts of interesting stuff on Churchill these days. Nobody likes him. :)
59 posted on 02/15/2005 4:44:32 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Finally, a level-headed post from someone about indians, and AIM... I'm actually shocked.

Why? Is it all that uncommon here? Eek. Maybe I should hide now. ;)

Seriously, though, I know enough AIM folk (although I'm not AIM myself - I don't want to get in the middle of that stuff) that I have a rather unusual view of how things go with 'em. They're, as a general rule, good people who just want things to get straightened out, and they've had some good effects over time.

Now I'm half wondering if I've run across your relatives somewhere, though. It's a small world in Indian country. :)
60 posted on 02/15/2005 4:48:57 PM PST by Ladypixel (Not all Indian activists act like lefty Churchills... thank goodness!)
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