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Gibson relaunches "Passion of Christ" with a new cut (of more violent scenes)
Turkish Press ^ | February 11, 2005

Posted on 02/11/2005 9:48:31 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

This is a great idea. I know an older lady who had to leave at the showing I attended because she couldn't handle the violence. Also, as much as I loved it, I haven't been able to bring myself to see it again. Having two versions will really allow a larger audience to be able to see it and make it more accessible for families.


21 posted on 02/11/2005 12:52:04 PM PST by djreece
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To: Sam the Sham
But I am still furious that neither Mel Gibson nor Jim Caviezel seem to be able to find work in Hollyweird.

I suppose if you don't count "Bobby Jones" and "Rebels" (not yet released) for Caviezel you're right.

22 posted on 02/11/2005 12:58:34 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace

"Bobby Jones" was already in the can when "The Passion" came out.


23 posted on 02/11/2005 1:29:23 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Ol' Sox

"Out of respect, I will never again sit down while this movie is being shown."

i hope you mean while you are in the room...cause you might be standing for a while. ;)


24 posted on 02/11/2005 1:32:51 PM PST by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: Sam the Sham

Jim Caviezel was in a golf movie-- Bobby Jones, Stroke of Genius. Gibson isn't interested in acting these days, much, I don't think. He likes making movies more. He also has a TV production company, too. He's very busy. He's also got the Maccabees movie to work on.


25 posted on 02/11/2005 1:36:39 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

"Is it just me? It seems to be that the first thing anybody mentions about this film is the gore - like it was created for that purpose. I honestly did not find it to be exceptionally gory compared to other movies I've seen, but I'm sure some who almost never go to movies woud be taken aback."

I totally agree! I don't think it was nearly as gory at face value as some horror flicks. But the difference here, is that every person who watches it, knows in their heart, that it was REAL. This isn't fiction. And I truly believe that no one can truly deny that. I believe they can SAY it's fiction, and maybe even superficially convince themselves. But in their core, in their soul, they know the truth and just refuse to see it. I think that is why this film hits people as "more gory" than other films. For the same reason that most people would not be able to stomach those home videos where they torture and kill people. Because they can't watch it thinking, "well it's not like it really happened!"


26 posted on 02/11/2005 1:36:47 PM PST by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: Tempest
There is an audience of Catholic and Christian individuals...

Don't you mean "Catholic and other Christians?"

27 posted on 02/11/2005 1:37:36 PM PST by Bohemund
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Yes, but as I said above, that was already shot and awaiting release when "The Passion" came out. He has nothing in the pipeline.


28 posted on 02/11/2005 1:52:39 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Bohemund

Yes you're right my apologizes.


29 posted on 02/11/2005 3:09:25 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: NYer

I never did understand why this movie was so controversial. The Crucifixion of Jesus was a very violent affair, and found Gibson's graphic portrayal useful in understanding the suffering through which the sins of man are washed away. The exclusive Latin/Aramaic dialog was a stroke of genius on Gibson's part. I'll be curious to see what new scenes have been added.


30 posted on 02/11/2005 4:45:23 PM PST by Brig_Gen_George_P_Harrison_CSA
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
NJ Catholic priest was so appalled by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of The Christ'' that he described the film as "religious barbarism.'' "I saw it as religious barbarism ... in my opinion, God did not send his son to die,''

The Gospel of Mel Gibson

31 posted on 02/11/2005 5:27:57 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Coleus

"God did not send his son to die"

Then why bother having the son born ..?? The lamb cannot be a sacrifice if there is no lamb.

It's very sad to me to see that a priest is not even born again and doesn't know the reason Jesus was born.


32 posted on 02/11/2005 7:01:04 PM PST by CyberAnt (They speak like Gods; fight like cowards; are corrupt and immoral to their core.)
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To: Brig_Gen_George_P_Harrison_CSA
I never did understand why this movie was so controversial. The Crucifixion of Jesus was a very violent affair, and found Gibson's graphic portrayal useful in understanding the suffering through which the sins of man are washed away. The exclusive Latin/Aramaic dialog was a stroke of genius on Gibson's part. I'll be curious to see what new scenes have been added.

Sorry to disappoint you but no new scenes have been added. Rather, some of the more 'brutal' scenes have been sliced.

Like you, I never saw any need to alter the film. Yes, the scourging scene was long and painful to watch. However, it proved to be most inspirational in that our Lord maintained control over the entire situation. We, as sinners, dread such a punishment and yet here is the Christ, enduring it on our behalf.

As to the dead languages that influenced this film, I attend a Maronite Catholic Church which is one of only two that retains Aramaic for the Consecration. At times, I will close my eyes and listen as the priest chants the words in the language of our Lord, at the Last Supper. Suddenly, I am transported back 2000 years in time and present at the Last Supper.

Aramaic Consecration

Byow mo how daq dom ha sho dee leh
ma' bed hy eh
nsa bel lah mo be dow qa dee sho to.
Ou ba rekh
ou qa desh
waq so
ou ya bel tal mee dow kad o mar:
Sab a khool meh neh kul khoon:
Ho no den ee tow faghro deel
day lo fy koun wah lof sagee hey
meh teq seh ou meh tee heb
lhoo so yo dhow beh was ha yeh dal 'o lam
'ol meen.

English Translation

On the day before his life-giving passion,
Jesus took bread in his holy hands.
He blessed,
sanctified,
broke,
and gave it to his disciples, saying:
Take and eat it, all of you:
This is my body
which is broken and delivered for you
and for many,
for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life.

33 posted on 02/11/2005 7:50:00 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: BRITinUSA
The greater the spread of the message the better off we will all be.

Indeed. A special edition is not a problem.

34 posted on 02/11/2005 7:53:15 PM PST by Dataman
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To: CyberAnt
It's very sad to me to see that a priest is not even born again and doesn't know the reason Jesus was born.

There is no shortage (and never has been) of heretical priests.

"God did not send his son to die"

Does he think God was surprised at the way His Son's earthly life ended?

35 posted on 02/11/2005 8:09:03 PM PST by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: Steve0113

I've been to a Catholic funeral - co-worker's mother. The co-worker wasn't born again, and the priest was not either - and she was so disappointed that the priest didn't comfort her family more. It was obvious to me - and he kept looking at me like he knew I knew .. it was very strange.

One of his comments suggested that we could never be sure we were going to heaven. I was so outraged that I wanted to jump up and yell out the scripture - but I restrained myself.


36 posted on 02/11/2005 8:35:02 PM PST by CyberAnt (They speak like Gods; fight like cowards; are corrupt and immoral to their core.)
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To: CyberAnt
One of his comments suggested that we could never be sure we were going to heaven. I was so outraged that I wanted to jump up and yell out the scripture - but I restrained myself.

Aside from the fact that he was flat-out wrong, to make such a comment at a funeral is cruelly inappropriate.

37 posted on 02/12/2005 8:44:57 AM PST by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: Steve0113

"... to make such a comment at a funeral is cruelly inappropriate."

You got it - and I was stunned! Here was this grieving family and he's telling them we can't be sure we're going to end up in heaven .. outrageous.


38 posted on 02/12/2005 10:16:22 AM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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