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Dever says governor's letter made a 'statement'
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | 02/13/05 | Bill Hess

Posted on 02/13/2005 8:20:36 AM PST by SandRat

BISBEE - A demand letter sent by Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano seeking reimbursement of $118 million state taxpayers have shelled out to incarcerate illegal immigrants and legal resident aliens was a good move, said Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever.

Although millions are due to the state, based on a federal law that requires the U.S. government to fully reimburse the cost of keeping immigrants in jail who are accused of committing crimes or convicted of felonies, county taxpayers are paying nearly two-thirds of the costs locally, Dever said.

Napolitano sent her letter to new U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales earlier this week stating the federal government must pay the state fully or take the prisoners.

Last week, Napolitano told the Sierra Vista Herald/Bisbee Daily Review the first letter Gonzales would receive from her would be the reimbursement demand.

Dever is concerned about the decrease of federal funding for the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program that helps defray some of the costs of incarcerating immigrant criminals, both those in the nation illegally and legally.

President George W Bush has attempted to zero out the special funds for the past two years. Fortunately, Dever said, Congress stopped Bush from doing that.

U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., has introduced a bill to reauthorize SCAAP at $750 million for the next federal budget year, $850 million for the following year and $950 million a year for the following four years.

But if the proposed money is allocated throughout the United States, there will not be enough to pay the full costs Cochise County has for keeping the special type inmates in the county jail.

In the past few years, about a third of the costs have typically been reimbursed, the sheriff said.

According to Jail Commander Ron Hager, just less than 14 percent of the actual costs were reimbursed in the most recent reimbursement that was paid for 2002 and 2003.

During that time, 20,470 bed days were used by illegal immigrants or legal alien residents or those who crossed the border legally, Hager said.

The first day of incarceration costs $101.78. Every day after that the cost is $49.21 a day, he said. The initial cost is for processing and services. The daily cost includes the cost of utilities, food and other items. The cost is higher for those who need medical treatment.

For the 2002 to 2003 time frame, the cost to the county for incarcerating those who weren't U.S. citizens was at least $1,007,329. The county received $139,304 from the federal SCAAP fund.

Dever said the highest amount of SCAAP money the county received was about $300,000, which was 30 percent of the actual costs.

As of Thursday, there were 224 inmates in the county jail, of which 30 were Mexican nationals, Hager said.

Dever said 326 Mexican nationals were in the jail for various lengths of time in 2004.

What upsets the sheriff is that the president is determined to eliminate programs that he considers not providing any kind of return.

"To the president, this program as no value," the sheriff said.

But, Dever said, it is forgotten that the federal government has been and continues to be remiss in fulfilling its obligation, which is why SCAAP should go on and full reimbursement made.

As for the governor's letter to Gonzales, "she's making a statement," Dever said.

Whether the federal government will heed the statement is unknown, he said.

The county faces an overcrowded jail. With Mexican nationals facing prosecution, there is no room for them, the sheriff said.

"The inn (the jail) is full and overflowing," Dever said.

For the safety of the local community, those who break laws, especially those from other countries, have to be placed in the jail.

U.S. citizens can be bonded out, but it is more difficult to do the same for citizens from other countries, he said.

While there is a reimbursement program for law enforcement actions, the same is not true when it comes prosecuting nationals of other countries in the county.

"There is no mechanism for reimbursement," Cochise County Attorney Ed Rheinheimer said.

Cases such as drugs, stolen vehicles and firearm incidents those prosecution cases involving U.S. citizens and legal and illegal immigrants receive some federal reimbursement.

According to information provided by Rheinhemier's office, it costs $5,000 and more per case for prosecuting and defending citizens from other countries.

The duration of the special federal programs is unknown, he said.

Tracking which cases involve citizens from other nations also needs to be fine-tuned so the actual numbers are known to seek funds from other federal programs, Rheinheimer said.

There currently are 32 county cases involving citizens from other countries that are pending, he added.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; criminals; gonzales; illegals; kolbe; napolitano; steal; taxes; theft
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I did't write it I'm just posting it.
1 posted on 02/13/2005 8:20:37 AM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...

Sheriff Dever and Gov Nappie of AZ want $$$$ to keep the illegals convicted of crimes in jail like tha law says but the fed haven't paid up.


2 posted on 02/13/2005 8:22:08 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
I agree with them. (Goodness, is that the sound of Hell freezing over?)

The Constitution says the Federal government is supposed to secure the borders, but since they're not, they should have to reimburse the states.

I still haven't figured out why the states haven't collectively sued the feds for 'breach of contract'.

THEN maybe they would close the d@mn borders and stop the invasion of all the 'armies of one'!

3 posted on 02/13/2005 8:28:39 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity*!)
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To: SandRat

There is a good article on the SCAAP at the unmentionable website.


4 posted on 02/13/2005 8:40:30 AM PST by junta (If you must hate, hate an ideologue.)
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To: MamaTexan
....is that the sound of Hell freezing over...

Please don't scare me! I made what I thought was a sure bet, "that ASU wouldn't even make it into the Final-4 again."

5 posted on 02/13/2005 8:55:38 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: junta

Yes I know one of the nonpersons of late pointed me to it


6 posted on 02/13/2005 8:57:56 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Now this one needs discussion...on the one hand, a Democrat Governor is asking for an expansion of Federal spending. OTOH, the federal government has said they are going decrease what they spend to secure our border with a less than friendly nation.

Which side is right, here?

7 posted on 02/13/2005 12:42:12 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ Coming soon to a tagline near you...)
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To: HiJinx

Bump. I'm with the State on this one.


8 posted on 02/13/2005 12:48:33 PM PST by SAMWolf (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: MamaTexan
BINGO!
9 posted on 02/13/2005 12:51:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: HiJinx

I notice these liberal type governors never ask for more enforcement, just more money.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 12:57:21 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: HiJinx
I'm on the state side.

If the feds won't pay for it then Governor Napalitano should collect & transport all of the illegals in state prisons/jails and physically deposit them in Congressman Kolbe's, Pastor's, Grijalva's, Flake's, Schadegg's, Renzi's, Frank's, Hayworth's, and Senator McCain's, Kyle's offices and let them deal with them directly.

The message would get across on the problem and what a photo op/news story that would be.
11 posted on 02/13/2005 1:47:32 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat; junta
There is a good article on the SCAAP at the unmentionable website.

Dare I ask what website that might be? [/rhetorical question]

12 posted on 02/13/2005 2:04:57 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: HiJinx
Now this one needs discussion...on the one hand, a Democrat Governor is asking for an expansion of Federal spending. OTOH, the federal government has said they are going decrease what they spend to secure our border with a less than friendly nation. Which side is right, here?

If States' Rights were seriously regarded we wouldn't have so many of these lose-lose choices.

By the way - why aren't we banned yet? I hear it's the latest rage.

13 posted on 02/13/2005 7:52:42 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Unrepentent politically-incorrect Nativist who believes America comes first)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Just because.


14 posted on 02/13/2005 8:11:59 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ Coming soon to a tagline near you...)
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To: monkeywrench

She's walking a tightrope with governor's elections next year. She needs the middle to win, and the middle is solidly anti-illegal-immigration.

That's why Prop 200 passed with 58% support, 44% among Hispanics.


15 posted on 02/13/2005 8:14:28 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ Coming soon to a tagline near you...)
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To: HiJinx
Which side is right, here?

My money is on the feds. They aren't going to fork over any fresh cash.

19 posted on 02/14/2005 2:20:59 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: MamaTexan
I still haven't figured out why the states haven't collectively sued the feds for 'breach of contract'.

Because they would be hypocrites. Unfortunately must of out southern border states are packed with politicians falling over themselves to out pander to illegal aliens. California is the best example but AZ and NM are not far behind. Many of their state policies encourage illegal immigration.

This is just a money grab from the feds. If they really wanted to demonstrate their disproval they would start deporting the aliens themselves. There is no law that prevents them from releasing illegal aliens “At the border”. But that will never happen.

20 posted on 02/14/2005 3:46:10 PM PST by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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