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N. Korea: U.S. Is Shaping Plan to Pressure North Koreans
NYT ^ | 02/14/05 | DAVID E. SANGER

Posted on 02/14/2005 4:23:13 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

U.S. Is Shaping Plan to Pressure North Koreans

By DAVID E. SANGER

WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 - In the months before North Korea announced that it possessed nuclear weapons, the Bush administration began developing new strategies to choke off its few remaining sources of income, based on techniques in use against Al Qaeda, intelligence officials and policy makers involved in the planning say.

The initial steps are contained in a classified "tool kit" of techniques to pressure North Korea that has been refined in recent weeks by the National Security Council. The new strategies would intensify and coordinate efforts to track and freeze financial transactions that officials say enable the government of Kim Jong Il to profit from counterfeiting, drug trafficking and the sale of missile and other weapons technology.

Some officials describe the steps as building blocks for what could turn into a broader quarantine if American allies in Asia - particularly China and South Korea - can be convinced that Mr. Kim's declaration on nuclear weapons last week means he must finally be forced to choose between disarmament and even deeper isolation. China and South Korea have been reluctant to impose penalties on the North.

To some degree the effort arises from Washington's lack of leverage over North Korea, and the absence of good military options, and it is far from clear that the administration's development of what one official calls "new instruments of pressure" will work. More than four decades of economic embargos of Cuba, tried by nine presidents, have failed, largely because European, Canadian and Latin American allies have not joined in. Nor have they succeeded against the Burmese, also a major source of drugs. The Secret Service has tried for years to halt North Korean counterfeiting dollars, and Australia and Japan have tried to end its sales of amphetamines and heroin.

In interviews over the past three weeks, administration officials have denied that the renewed effort is part of an unstated initiative to topple Mr. Kim. But several officials say North Korea has stepped up its illicit trafficking and counterfeiting in part to make up for lost missile sales and a crackdown on cash transfers from North Koreans living in Japan, some of which are illegal.

"We think they are desperate to put more money into the nuclear program and we're trying to cut that off," said one senior official.

Some officials acknowledge that undermining Mr. Kim's hold on power could be a side effect of the program, if it was successful. "That wasn't the intent in drafting it," said one senior official involved in the process. "Whether it could be one of the results is anyone's guess."

Several officials cautioned, however, that the new "tool kit" did not yet constitute a plan of action because the United States was only slowly trying to engage other nations in the strategy. They said some of the new techniques had already been carried out, but would not say which ones.

Details were described by officials in one intelligence agency and two other government agencies. One official of a foreign government who has been briefed on parts of it confirmed some of the elements. On Sunday evening, Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, cast the effort as "complementary to our continued diplomatic efforts," but insisted that some of the techniques had been used for some time.

"We have been working with our allies and partners for some time now to stop North Korea's illegal activities, especially in counterfeiting and narcotics," he said. "We have a responsibility to protect our citizens, our allies and our economies. North Korea cannot continue its involvement in illegal activities. It must make a strategic decision and eliminate its nuclear weapons program."

Other officials said that while different agencies had been pursuing the North, the new effort represented the first time the White House was coordinating and expanding the tactics to put more pressure on Mr. Kim.

Several officials confirmed that the most recent proposal was drafted by Robert Joseph, the counter-proliferation chief at the National Security Council, before he left the administration in November.

Mr. Joseph is widely expected to be nominated for the post of under secretary of state for arms control and international security.

Two American officials cited, as an example of new pressure tactics, a Japanese law that goes into effect on March 1 that requires all ships to carry liability insurance against spills and other accidents. Almost no North Korean vessel meets the requirement, so it could halt most shipping traffic with North Korea.

Although the nuts and bolts of the proposed measures are not clear, officials appear to be working from lists they have been collecting of banks and companies that the North Koreans have been using. Tracking North Korean financial transactions has long been difficult; it often deals in cash, and through shell companies and unregulated banking centers.

White House officials have declined to say what role President Bush has played in the new strategy. But his dislike for Mr. Kim is well known, and his involvement in strategies to deal with him was described by one former official as "a lot more intense than you might think."

Advisers, military officials and American and foreign diplomats who deal with Mr. Bush on North Korean issues say he frequently criticizes Mr. Kim's human rights abuses, referring to him as "immoral" and "a tyrant," according to one official who sat in on a recent meeting. In a meeting in December with President Roh Moo Hyun of South Korea, Mr. Bush spoke about how Mr. Kim lets his people starve.

"Roh said to him, 'Yeah, he's a bad guy, but we don't have to say it in public,' " said one official who has reviewed notes of the session. Mr. Roh's point was that turning the nuclear dispute into a personal confrontation, the way the Bush administration did with Saddam Hussein, could undercut any chance of diplomatic success in disarming North Korea.

Mr. Bush, the official recounted, responded, " 'Alright, I won't say it publicly,' or words to that effect, and so far he hasn't."

Officially, the Bush administration has never declared that "regime change" is its objective in North Korea, and Mr. Bush has expressed a willingness to offer a "security assurance" to North Korea pledging that the United States will not invade. Such an attack is considered nearly impossible, given North Korea's ability to destroy Seoul, South Korea's capital, about 40 miles from the border, and the fact that American intelligence does not know where the North's nuclear arms or all of its nuclear facilities are.

But Mr. Bush has never made any such assurances about attacking North Korea's economic lifelines. On Sunday, former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, who served under Mr. Bush's father when North Korea was making what the C.I.A. later concluded were its first two nuclear bombs, raised the possibility of a broad economic crackdown.

Appearing on the ABC News program "This Week," Mr. Baker told the host, George Stephanopoulos, that "there's a big gap" between abandoning the six-nation negotiations that had been sporadically under way for the past 18 months "and going to military force."

"There are many things we can do," Mr. Baker added.

"Quarantine?" Mr. Stephanopoulos asked.

"Quarantine is one," Mr. Baker said. "And perhaps the best one, of course, is sanctions by the United Nations Security Council for North Korea's violation of her promises to the International Atomic Energy Agency and the global community."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; america; finance; japan; kimjongil; moneytrail; nkorea; northeastasia; northkorea
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In the end, all boil down to China.
1 posted on 02/14/2005 4:23:13 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/14/2005 4:23:37 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"There are many things we can do."

Let Lil' Kim sweat over the possibilities. Muah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

3 posted on 02/14/2005 4:30:49 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Quarantine won't work without the cooperation of China and S. Korea..

Presently, neither nation seems to be willing to cooperate..

4 posted on 02/14/2005 4:54:21 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

"The initial steps are contained in a classified "tool kit" of techniques to pressure North Korea that has been refined in recent weeks by the National Security Council. The new strategies would intensify and coordinate efforts to track and freeze financial transactions that officials say enable the government of Kim Jong Il to profit from counterfeiting, drug trafficking and the sale of missile and other weapons technology. "

And this is bad, why?


5 posted on 02/14/2005 4:59:23 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: Drammach
South Korea is irrelevant; the demilitarized zone (no joke, that's the name for the heavily militarized border zone) leaves no holes for commerce except one negotiated hole for Southern "tourists" to the North. China probably would be willing to cooperate, especially now that the certifiably insane genocidal terrorist communist despot threatens them with nuclear weapons. I think that we'll get more cooperation than you might think.
6 posted on 02/14/2005 5:03:47 AM PST by dufekin (Saddam Hussein: both a TERRORIST and a COMMUNIST, deposed thank God and the American soldier!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
The "tool kit" addresses financial transactions related to illegal activities..
Nothing wrong with that, it's a fine thing..
But it will not solve the problem.. ( It probably won't exacerbate it either, but that's not the point..)

When I say quarantine, I mean it literally.. Like a "blockade"..
NOTHING goes in or out..

That includes "Humanitarian Aid"..
If the N. Koreans get hungry enough, they will settle the issue for us, without outside intervention..

7 posted on 02/14/2005 5:07:35 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: dufekin
I spent 9 years in the army, I know a little bit about the DMZ..
The idea that it "leaves no holes" for anything, period, is questionable at best.. smuggling, refugees, NK saboteurs, all come through the border..
The traffic is sporadic, but it happens on a regular enough basis..

As for China's willingness to cooperate, China acts in China's best interests.. as China perceives said interests..

Translation:
North Korea wouldn't be a problem unless China wanted it to be a problem..
Or, only until China considers it a problem..
Make no mistake..
If Li'l Kimmy becomes a liability in China's eyes, Kim will die a "sudden and tragic death"..
And someone else will take his place..

N. Korea is just one of China's tools... nothing more..

8 posted on 02/14/2005 5:17:39 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
Quarantine won't work without the cooperation of China and S. Korea..
Presently, neither nation seems to be willing to cooperate..

You forget Japan and they are motivated: Japan Urges North Korea to Rejoin Disarmament Talks - FR
[snip]TOKYO, Feb. 11 - The day after North Korea declared that it possessed nuclear weapons, Japan's prime minister urged the North to re-engage in disarmament talks. He spoke as the clock was running down toward a new law that will put economic pressure on North Korea by barring most of its ships from Japanese ports starting March 1. [/snip]

9 posted on 02/14/2005 6:15:47 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer
You forget Japan and they are motivated:

That's all well and good for Japan.. it only applies to them... Japanese ports... and what comes in to Japan..

It does nothing to stop, slow, or otherwise curtail N. Korea's international trade elsewhere in the world.. with nations such as Iran, Yemen, Pakistan, etc...

How about say, Venezuala?
How do Japan's actions prevent N.Korea from trading say, nuclear missiles for oil, with the Communist, Anti-American, Pro-Castro leader of Venezuala ?

Not much..

10 posted on 02/14/2005 6:23:39 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
It depends on how they implement their law.
If they prevent NK ships from entering port, it's effective for them but rather toothless for the rest of the world.
If Japan starts searching ships heading to / from NK to guarantee that NK goods aren't eventually destined to Japan, that's good for Japan and the rest of the world.
11 posted on 02/14/2005 6:29:42 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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Ping


12 posted on 02/14/2005 6:30:34 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: jriemer
But Japan's new law only bars "most" N.Korean ship from docking in Japan..
It's not even ALL NK ships...

And it says nothing about interdiction on the high seas, or violating NK sovereignty by searching vessels..

Japan is going to have to pass a whole "slew" of laws before that will happen..
This is seriously up to the bordering nations.. China, Russia, South Korea.. and the U.S...
They are the only nations in a position to do something.. and at this point I'm not convinced that the U.S. has any of those three ready to "make a move" to settle this standoff..

We may end up having to take "precipitous action"..

13 posted on 02/14/2005 6:58:12 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


14 posted on 02/14/2005 8:48:14 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: nuconvert

Kim Jung Mentally Ill will be removed when he becomes a problem for China, right now he occuppies alot of peoples attention, which pulls some scrutiny away from China. When China removes him, NK will remain in China sphere of influence, where it has been for hundreds of years. This is all China's game, we aren't really even in it.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 9:18:45 AM PST by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would. Damn! Now I need a new tagline.)
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To: dufekin

"certifiably insane genocidal terrorist communist despot"

that hits all the bases, other than "pedophile". Proof? I didn't *say* he was a pedophile... ;')


16 posted on 02/14/2005 10:14:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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17 posted on 02/14/2005 10:15:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: conservativewasp; Berosus; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA
conservativewasp may be right. However, the Chinese don't have a faction within NK who could overthrow the Nut Job and install a different one. And if China moves militarily against NK, it could suffer terribly (from embarrassing losses). China would probably do nothing (rather than oppose quarantine) because it needs the US right now, because its economic growth depends on us, and they've got some other current problems.
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18 posted on 02/14/2005 10:21:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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To: Drammach; All

So all roads to China for North Korea eh


Well not only LIttle Kim be roaney but VERY Dead indeed LOL!


19 posted on 02/14/2005 10:48:38 AM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Drammach
If preventing Japanese companies (or zainichi chosen jin) North Korean related companies in Japan, from filtering nefarious, underground funds and technical goods the DPRK's way, is anything like prohibiting Japanese construction companies from stopping bid rigging (dango), even though it is patently illegal on the books, then Japan will still be a sieve be which North Korea can eek out enough yen flow to keep them on an economic respirator.

There will have to be REALLY aggressive policing by the Japanese authorities and agencies. In fact, I think our own intelligence organizations in Japan would do a better job tracking if Japanese firms are ally stopping the flow, than the Japanese authorities. North Koreans know where there is a will there is a way...and unfortunately there are enough mid and low level Japanese officials to indulge in "mekoboshi", that is, to "look the other way". I hope we can strangle them economically, because as you observe, only two other options come after that....UN sanctions and then outright military action (if not a coup d'etat planned by the west).

The beauty will be if all of this can be resolved without a single shot being fired. I pray for that result.

20 posted on 02/14/2005 2:34:20 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Immigrants, "Those Wonderful People" in Jail Now Cost $1.4 Billion A Year To California Taxpayers)
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