WARNING: Gurkhas!!!!!!!!!!!

02/15/2005

[SuziQ]

The Islamofascists think they're bad a$$es. I'd like to see them come up against the Ghurkas! They'd run screaming like little girls!

[Leatherneck_MT]

Other than the Marines, I love these guys the best.

[Gengis Khan]

"The Islamofascists think they're bad a$$es. I'd like to see them come up against the Ghurkas! They'd run screaming like little girls!"

The Indian Army Gurkha units have been fighting them in Kashmir. My brother in-law had lead one of those units against the insurgents.

You can try reading post# 74

[archy]

I wonder why the train with the Indian made INSAS rifle. I am also surprised that the MoD has not replaced the Carl Gustaf 84mm anti-tnk weapon.

The INSAS is Kalishnikov-reliable and chambered for the now very common 5,56mm ammunition of the M16, also now available to the Nepalese, and much lighter than the 7,62 NATO rounds used in the previous 1A1 SLRs. But I suspect that rifles of the INSAS pattern will also prove in the long run to be far less fragile in the hands of the Nepalese Army and AFP than the maintenance-dependent M16.

As for the Charlie-Gee AT gun, it's also simple and reliable, and its ammunition is much less expensive than the guided antitank missles that have generally replaced it. And both white phosphorous and canister ammunition is also available for the Charlie Guts-ache, one reason it's also in use by US Ranger units.

Rangers from the 1st Ranger Bn, Bravo Company conduct a nightime live fire raid. The Carl Gustav 84mm Recoiless Rifle is supporting the Rangers up on the objective. The weapon system serves Rangers in the direct fire support role and can be used for antitank duty, destroying reinforced positions and bunkers. Routinely conducting night time live fire exercises help the Ranger Battalions keep their edge and is another reason that when it comes to combat, Rangers own the night.

[archy]

Ghurka ping

Ayo Ghorkhali!

[kingsurfer]

Working abroad is one of Nepal's biggest exports. The situation is not clear cut in Nepal. The King is an idiot who wants to be supreme ruler. This is no better than the Maoists. Both sides have committed human rights abuses.

The hill people get nothing from the King or the Government. They have never considered themselves a part of the country and prefer to be a seperate entity. The Gurkha's that work abroad do so because the money can be used to build schools and hospitals and provide for their entire extended families. They are brave fighters and are willing to travel the world in order to feed their family and keep their country afloat. The current King has little respect and what he has is quickly being diminished.

[kingsurfer]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1334589/posts

[Covenantor]

I wonder why the train with the Indian made INSAS rifle. I am also surprised that the MoD has not replaced the Carl Gustaf 84mm anti-tnk weapon.

archy correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Indian army have Ghurka units as well. I have several Indian Army issued Ghurka blades that came with a shop drawing copy that indicated such.

[SandRat]

...they very happily adopt some of the ways of those with whom they soldier as their own. Unfortunately, that includes their fondness for the Scots-Irish habit of blowing air into a sheep'sgut bag and calling it music.

Hey! I happen to like the Pipes. Besides having recordings on CD or Diskettes (if you vehicle is that old, can you even get a new car/truck with a tape player?) is great when you're sitting at a stop light and some jerk pulls up with his boom box blaring the bass so bad your vehicle vibrates. Just pop one in turn the volume up full and let it rip! You'll only have to do it for a very short time and the jerk will turn his down and roll his windows up. Expect some dirty looks but he got the message.

[injin]

"This is no better than the Maoists."
There's a movie I think you should see .
It's called The Killing Fields

[archy]

archy correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Indian army have Ghurka units as well. I have several Indian Army issued Ghurka blades that came with a shop drawing copy that indicated such.

They certainly do, though more frequently spelled as *Gorkhas* in translations of articles there. It seems a few of those working for India got into a little trouble last month.

Nepali Gurkhas are inducted in the Indian Army in accordance with a tripartite understanding reached between India, Nepal and the UK in November 9, 1947; The Agreement specifically notes that the Gurkha troops would not be treated as mercenaries. Paragraph 1 of Annexure III to the Agreement states, "In all matters of promotion, welfare and other facilities, the Gurkha troops should be treated on the same footing as other units in the parent army so that the stigma of mercenary troops may for all times be wiped out. These troops should be treated as a link between two friendly countries."

Nothing in the Tripartite Agreement prohibits the deployment of Nepali Gorkhas serving in the Indian Army in the Kargil operations against intruders from Pakistan.

Only restrictions on the use of Nepali Gurkhas are to be found in Annexure III to the Agreement are Paragraph 3 and 4. Which state that "The Gurkha troops should not be used against Hindu or any other un-armed mobs" and "To avoid any clash between the Gurkhas themselves, Gurkha troops should not be used if any contingency of their having to serve in opposite camps arises." Both the situations were not found in Kargil.

As the Indian Army was engaged in throwing out intruders from Pakistan, who consist of Pakistan Army regulars and assorted armed militants and mercenaries, including Afgan Mujahideens. Due to international pressure, they were asked by the Pakistani PM to return and Indian army allowed the safe passage to them.

It is also noteworthy that many Bhutanese from Nepali speaking Lhotshampa and Sharchhop communities, also serve in the Indian army. According to a reliable source, only one battalion, viz., the first Battalion of the 11th Gorkha Regiment, has been deployed in Kargil so far. Kargil conflict took 389 lives of Indian army. Out of which was a Nepali national, viz., Ram Kumar Pradhan. And one out of 389 is clearly not a case of Nepali Gorkhas being used as cannon fodder in Kargil. Reportedly, not more than seven-eight hundred Gorkha Regiment personnel are serving in the Kargil area at present. In a war-like situation some soldiers were bound to be martyred. GAESO Chairman Maj. Deepak Gurung was recently quoted in this paper saying that "it is the duty and dharma of a soldier to go to war", and that is the motto of a soldier.

Unlike the British Gurkhas, the salary and other benefits received by Gorkhas from Nepal in the Indian Army are the same as provided to their Indian counterparts. Many Indian Gurkha ex-servicemen living in Pokhara and Jhapa in Nepal and from Bhutan, admit this. They receive exactly identical extended facilities received by Indian soldiers. The ex-servicemen of Indian Army living in Nepal are provided welfare support comparable to what is available to their Indian counterparts. According to the same source, the Gorkhas in the Indian Army (in bulk) receive approximately Rs. 6 billion (600 crores) per annum as salary. A large proportion of this amount is repatriated into Nepal as the serving soldiers are provided free ration, accommodation, medical benefits, educational facilities, etc. Indian Army disburses Rs. 4800 million as pension to 0.103 million ex-servicemen living in Nepal every year. The direct benefits received by the Nepali nationals in the Indian Army and ex-servicemen living in Nepal exceed Rs. 10 billion million (10 arba) per annum. This amount is more than the total foreign grants of Rs. 7,770 million received by Nepalese Government in 1998-99 as budgetary support.

Additional details and source info at site *here*.

[tet68]

I'm now reading 1915 by Lyn Macdonald.
He relates an incident in which a Gurkha
was seen walking down a trench with the face
of a German, not the head, just the face.

[archy]

Hey! I happen to like the Pipes

I forgive you. You'll find a couple of interesting links near the top of my FReeper profile. This one's a .midi file, but still a favourite. Or try this version.

[dd5339]

The story I heard was the Argies were caught between a Gurkha unit and the Scottish Black Watch. The Argies took the easy way out and committed suicide.

On another note the Marine unit I was with did a training op with the Gurkha's in 87. We got our backsides handed to us in a very big way by them.

Semper Fi

[Marysecretary]

IMPRESSIVE! Maybe we should get THEM to train our military and Iraq's new army! M

[TChris]

We got our backsides handed to us in a very big way by them.

Does this kind of, um... event lead to changes/improvements in Marine training?

[Marysecretary]

They do it so quickly that people stand around laughing and not knowing they've been killed yet! Fast and quiet.

[dd5339]

I left that unit shortly after that. If I remember right the judges/score keepers rated our company at 93% KIA in the attack against the Gurkhas. Some of the mistakes that were made were; our base of fire was set up outside of the maximum effective range of fire of most of our weapons, the base of fire was setup about 100 meters away from their forward artillery observation position, our assault unit stormed up to the hilltop that the Gurkhas were defending to find out that they were not there, (they had set a reverse slope defense), and then there was something about a ring-knocker getting lost with our chow and water but that's another story.

I would have to think that would leave a bit of a black mark on a commanding officers performance report.

Semper Fi

[SandRat]

Some interesting things on your profile page too Arch.

[archy]

Some interesting things on your profile page too Arch.

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