Posted on 02/16/2005 7:35:13 AM PST by MisterRepublican
If you watch a lot of cable television, you've probably seen the ads, especially late at night or early in the morning. The "Girls Gone Wild" videos promise to show you coeds behaving badly on the beach during Spring Break or getting down and dirty at Mardi Gras. The formula is simple: find a group of nubile young things drunk out of their heads and induce them to pull up their T-shirts or pull down their shorts and expose themselves to anyone willing to fork over $19.95 for the privilege. The most recent incarnation features gangster rapper Snoop Dogg hawking fresh, young flesh.
Call me old-fashioned, but I just can't imagine what these girls were thinking when they agreed to "show off their assets," as one knock-off video boasts. These young women aren't pros -- they are not part of the pornographic underworld -- but ordinary teens and twenty-somethings who one day will be wives and mothers. One young girl, who was 17 at the time she allowed herself to be photographed topless, has already sued the producers of "The Guy Game," a video game featuring females in various stages of undress. Her suit claims she did not give a "valid or enforceable consent or release" for photos to be used by the video game makers. "Plaintiff is still a teenager and wishes to attend college, develop her career and be active in her community and church." Good luck.
What is most shocking about this phenomenon is that we're not all that shocked by it. Modesty used to be considered a natural female attribute. No more. Just take a look around next time you're at the mall.
(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...
I think part of this comes from mothers who are trying to relive their sexual past through their daughters.
That sounds abusive! I went to private school. Thank you mum and dad!
History and Victoria have sanitized what the massive influx of immigration wrought. The ghettos of the large American cities in the 19 century were not a modest place.
Because most of the regular women shunned casual encounters.
>>>For most of history, most people lived in horrible squalid conditions. Whole families (sometimes several families) would live in a room or two <<<
Where? What planet? What country? What year?
>>The ghettos of the large American cities in the 19 century were not a modest place.<<
What are you talking about? Show me a link where woman were running around dressed like sluts in the 19th century.
lighten up. Nothing wrong with a girl having a good time and lifting her shirt. Good clean fun I'd say. Just not fun for the whole family. But if you take your kids into the French Quarter during mardi gras, or anytime for that matter, it's you're own fault if they see some boobies.
Why do you say that? If we are referring to the nineteenth century, which is generally considered the golden age of modesty and decorum, the private letters, diaries, and news articles of the time provide a very balanced picture of the thinking of the times. The view we get from a serious study of mid-nineteenth century social psychology is that people then had the same urges people have always had, without the advantage of therapy, psychiatric medications, or self-help gurus and their books or radio shows. They did have the overwhelmingly powerful influence of the church and public opinion to help them keep their behavior in check. They did not get welfare checks if they got pregnant and they didn't have any useful treatment if they got venereal diseases, so a single act of sexual congress made women risk death nine months down the road and made a man risk insanity and death years hence. Factors like these helped people behave a little bit better than we do today.
At the time, feminine virtue was esteemed. Were there coarse women, hookers, sluts? You bet. People are people. But there was an ideal of sweetness, integrity, honorable behavior, and chastity. These traits made it possible for men to respect and cherish women to an extent they rarely do today. We have lost something important when we lost the concept of feminine modesty.
I think it comes from movies like Pretty Woman. What an inspid movie! When I was young it was Cinderalla, which was far more believable than Pretty Woman even considering the mice that turned into coachmen and the pumpkin turned into a coach. In modern times it translates into the rich, handsome, successful, single, man decides to marry a whore he picked up to service him for the week.
Well said. I agree.
When I was in HS the boys had to swim in the nude. I was "normal" (whatever that means) but some of the kids had very small penises. I felt so sorry for them I couldn't stand it. One boy was crying when they made him undress in front of everyone else.
Times sure have changed.
I don't know anymore. It seems that girls are held up to this high standard but ask the average American guy what he wants and it's usually the sort of gil on the GGW infomercials.
On what planet did you witness the sordid, grubby and immodest past?
The Irish and Italian influx into the ghettos of the 19th century created conditions that we can't imagine. The difference between then and now is that most people were trying to escape these conditions.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000499.html
This article touches lightly on the subject matter at hand.
This trend makes me both sad and angry. We're raising two sons, who are now 9 and 11. Our older son is in his first year of middle school. Fortunately, neither son is at all interested in girls, and we think they'll both be late bloomers. It scares the daylights out of me to think of the temptations they'll have to deal with, and the risks to them of these aggressive, under-dressed girls. Young men have enough trouble behaving responsibly when hormones are raging, but these girls are making it ever more difficult. At school functions I find myself looking at the girls and wondering which of them I would ever want my sons involved with. Sadly, there aren't very many. I just hope we're instilling strong enough values in them that they'll make sensible decisions along the way.
Then she knew what she was doing when the photos were taken according to the article.
Holy cow!! I bet that is hillarys main squeeze!
"Holy cow!! I bet that is hillarys main squeeze!"
Indeed. Queen Amidala has grown up nicely, it seems.
I think you are confusing privacy and modesty. An African/South Pacific/South American girl whose culture and local weather conditions dictate that she should walk around bare-breasted can be just as chaste and modest as a girl who is being brought up in a Spanish convent or an Apostolic church. The African girl is not flaunting herself for sexual purposes and is not about to leap into bed with anyone she's not married to. And the African man next to her is so used to seeing it as a basic part of his culture that he doesn't consider it a big thrill or even a sexual signal.
When we are speaking about modesty in the context of American co-eds, we're talking about gross sexual self-advertisement, a lack of self-control, and promiscuous sexual behavior, not how many family members are forced to sleep in the same room.
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