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We Lose If LOST Wins (UN Law of the Sea Treaty)
The New American ^ | 06.14.04 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 02/16/2005 5:21:47 PM PST by Coleus

We Lose If LOST Wins
by William F. Jasper

The Law of the Sea Treaty is not just a bad idea; it is a very dangerous legal document that heralds a major step into world government and grants vast powers to the UN.

Some bad ideas just keep coming back again and again, like a vampire that hasn’t been properly disposed of with the wooden stake to the heart. The United Nations Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) is just such a creature. Pronounced dead several times over the past couple of decades, it was largely forgotten — except by its internationalist sponsors. It has been resuscitated and now stands poised for action in the U.S. Senate.

The Law of the Sea Treaty is not just a bad idea; it is a very dangerous, concrete thing, a revolutionary legal document that heralds a major step into world government and grants vast powers to the United Nations. All of the blather, bombast and assurances of its supporters notwithstanding, there’s no way to get around that fact. The treaty does create new jurisdictions and governing structures with real powers that threaten our national sovereignty. Among other things, LOST establishes an International Seabed Authority (referred to as ISA, or "the Authority"), a new UN agency to control the minerals and other wealth of the sea floor. This also means granting the ISA control over two thirds of the Earth’s surface — no trifling matter. LOST designates this vast, watery commons as "the Area."

Article 136 of the treaty declares: "The Area and its resources are the common heritage of mankind." And Article 137 informs us: "All rights in the resources of the Area are vested in mankind as a whole, on whose behalf the Authority shall act." That’s certainly reassuring: The UN kleptocracy that has given us the massive Iraqi oil-for-food rip-off, and that has proven to be a bottomless sinkhole of corruption for nearly 60 years, is to administer the wealth of the oceans for the benefit of "mankind."

In case you didn’t know, "the Authority" is already up and running; the ISA was launched in 1994, when the 60th nation ratified LOST. Like all UN-formulated entities, the ISA mimics the UN, with a sprawling bureaucracy and a confusing, Byzantine system of geopolitically weighted voting and representation. For the past decade, the ISA has been growing like The Blob. Headquartered in Kingston, Jamaica, it is comprised of a Secretariat, Assembly, Council, Legal and Technical Commission, Finance Committee, and the usual proliferation of committees, commissions, panels, task forces, etc. For dispute resolution there is an International Tribunal ("the Tribunal") in Hamburg, Germany. Or, if you prefer, you may opt for the International Court of Justice at The Hague, where Judge Shi Juiyong of Communist China sits as President. Some choice!

There are now 145 member nations, the only major holdout being the United States. As with the International Criminal Court, the Kyoto Protocol and other efforts by the UN and one-world elites to install what they euphemistically call "global governance," U.S. resistance to joining this new collective regime is being portrayed as contempt for "the world community" and disrespect for "the rule of law."

The Law of the Sea Treaty opened for signatures at the UN in 1982. At the UN’s 20th anniversary celebration of that event in 2002, Korea’s Tommy Koh, president of the 3rd UN Conference on the Law of the Sea, declared that LOST is nothing less than "a comprehensive constitution for the oceans" covering "every aspect of the uses and resources of the sea." It’s difficult to get more comprehensive than that. UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, at the same event, echoed President Koh, referring to the treaty as "a constitution for the oceans." Acting President of the UN General Assembly Clifford S. Mamba of Swaziland may have unintentionally let the cat out of the bag on that occasion, declaring that the treaty represented a major effort to achieve a "just and equitable international economic order."

Back in 1974, you may recall, a raucous UN General Assembly led by Fidel Castro and the Soviet-directed "Non-Aligned Movement" voted for a Marxist manifesto entitled "A New International Economic Order," or N.I.E.O. The Law of the Sea was a key element of the N.I.E.O. scheme for global socialist wealth distribution. It still is, though its advocates at the UN have learned that they make more progress toward their goal if they are less strident and more honeyed in their utterances.

Under LOST, the UN will finally have the tax and regulatory powers it has lusted after for so long, together with a commercial income stream, independent of the purse strings of national legislatures. Any entrepreneur wishing to explore or mine the ocean floor would have to pay the Authority and provide technical assistance to "the Enterprise," the ISA’s own commercial ocean mining corporation. Articles 192 through 237 are loaded with environmental legalese that will provide UN globocrats and their NGO allies at Greenpeace and the Sierra Club with previously undreamt-of opportunities for regulating not only commercial, recreational and naval shipping, but also land sources of marine pollution, such as agriculture, manufacturing, mining, construction, logging and urban waste management.

If you haven’t already done so, now would be a good time to tell your senators to send this fanged fossil back to the grave — permanently.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: globalism; greenpeace; isa; jbs; johnbirchsociety; lost; propertyrights; seatreaty; sierraclub; thenewamerican; un; unitednations; williamfjasper
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1 posted on 02/16/2005 5:21:49 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

When's the vote...4 or 5 weeks?


2 posted on 02/16/2005 5:25:05 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

The U.N. is out of control. THEIR LUST FOR ONE-WORLD POWER is worse than dangerous. It will take the US to stand up to their totalitarian tyranny. We must do it.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 5:29:31 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Coleus
As I read this article something suddenly dawned on me. Treaties, such as LOST, when passed by the legislature are endowed with Constitutional force more or less. Liberals/leftists have hemmed and hawed and raised cane about the possibility of amending the US Constitution to define marriage and outlaw so-called gay marriage but never raise of peep when it comes to treaty ratification. Of course,if I give them the benefit of the doubt then one might say that they are just ignorant.
4 posted on 02/16/2005 5:31:18 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: pbrown

Don't know. There are a number of UN Treaties congress can vote on during each term: LOST, CAFTA, FTAA, etc.

Each year congressmen and senators put up the bills some never make it out of committee. It seems that each year there are more and more congressmen co-sponsoring these bills.


5 posted on 02/16/2005 5:31:50 PM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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To: Coleus

This anachronism should be rejected. There is no proper time for this, nor for its sister Treaty--the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty.


6 posted on 02/16/2005 5:35:24 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Coleus

Kyoto is a no-go, yet they're considering this $#@#@$@?!?!?!?!?!?! What is WRONG with these people!?!?!?!?!


7 posted on 02/16/2005 5:39:51 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Coleus

Who in Congress is sponsoring or supporting this? Do we know?


8 posted on 02/16/2005 5:43:39 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Coleus

AND SUPPORT THE JONES ACT!!!!


9 posted on 02/16/2005 5:44:51 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child. "Fetus" means "young one".)
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To: EagleUSA
I'm with you on that. I have already called my Congressmen and Senators.

This thing has to die....for good.

10 posted on 02/16/2005 5:47:14 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: SuzyQue
Lugar I believe. Condi and Bush both support it's signing.

She spoke on it at her confirmation hearing.

11 posted on 02/16/2005 5:48:26 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus
U.S. resistance to joining this new collective regime is being portrayed as contempt for "the world community" and disrespect for "the rule of law."

I don't see how US authorities can be accused of disrespect for the "rule of law" if they try to keep bad policy from becoming law in the first place, especially if the law in question would conflict with the ultimate legal authority they have SWORN to uphold. As far as "contempt for the world community" I don't take it as a given that that's a bad thing. Some elements of the world community are without a doubt worthy of contempt.

12 posted on 02/16/2005 5:51:11 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: pbrown

Thanks. What the heck is wrong with them?


13 posted on 02/16/2005 5:52:19 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: All
Go to search and type in...'big media won't touch agenda 21'

Every question you have will be answered in that thread. L.O.S.T. and Agenda 21 are at the core of the U.N. It's their babies.

14 posted on 02/16/2005 5:52:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus; hedgetrimmer; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; forester; sauropod; marsh2; sasquatch; ...


15 posted on 02/16/2005 5:53:46 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: SuzyQue

None of us can figure out why they support it. At first Bush was against it, but not now.


16 posted on 02/16/2005 5:54:37 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: EagleUSA
You're right. This is unbelievable. It's "how can we draw income from anyone who is hardworking and intuitive while we sit on our butts".

If they are going to profit from these people are they going to reimburse them at least partially for their time and expenses. NO.

If it was up to the UN they would be taxing our salaries (and of coarse Israel's). The UN is the boogey man in the closet

17 posted on 02/16/2005 5:54:39 PM PST by lizma
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To: farmfriend

dear elected officials

fuggetaboutit

end of message


18 posted on 02/16/2005 5:59:02 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown
Here's the link and thank you for mentioning the thread.

Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
19 posted on 02/16/2005 6:01:45 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

You are very welcome. Anything I can do to help you get this message out...you only need to ask me.


20 posted on 02/16/2005 6:04:09 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Richard Lugar twenty some years ago use to be a descent senator. I don't know if it's the power lust of D.C. that got to him or if it's senility. Either way he has transformed into a self-serving clown.

I really wish from day one our Founding Fathers instituted term limits. I'm sure it would have caused some problems but in the long run it would have solved many more.

21 posted on 02/16/2005 6:06:33 PM PST by lizma
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To: SuzyQue

Prominently behind LOST, Senator Lugar.


22 posted on 02/16/2005 6:07:42 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SuzyQue
Indiana residents, contact your Globalist Republican Senator

Richard G. Lugar, United States Senator for Indiana

Cheryl Chumley -- UN Sea Treaty Supporters Feel the Heat

23 posted on 02/16/2005 6:08:18 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

You can read more about LOST including the senate foreign relations committee report at Sen Dick Lugar (R. Indiana) site:
http://lugar.senate.gov/sfrc/sea.html

“On February 25, 2004, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 19-0 to send the resolution of ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty to the full Senate for advice and consent. The Bush Administration said on February 7, 2002, that there is an “urgent need for Senate approval” of the Law of the Sea Treaty.

“The basic tenets of the treaty have been U.S. policy since first enunciated by President Reagan in 1982. Over the next dozen years the U.S. won in negotiations on the questionable aspects of the treaty, and signed on in 1994. The details are in the President's Message transmitting the treaty to the Senate that may be viewed using Adobe Reader. In October 2003, Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Dick Lugar held two comprehensive hearings on the treaty. The full transcripts of those hearings are part of the 187-page committee report that may be viewed using Adobe Reader. “


24 posted on 02/16/2005 6:13:39 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Coleus
I'll be sure to write letters to my Senators: Boxer and Feinstein. :-(

If Bill Frist wants to be President, he'd better pay attention.

25 posted on 02/16/2005 6:14:53 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: lizma
I'm all for term limits. It would cut down on special interest and corruption.

They are empowered with more power than we want them to have. They are drunk with it.

And their quest for even more, knows no bounds.

The thirst and lust for power has Lugar.

26 posted on 02/16/2005 6:15:59 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I think I'll repeat myself:

The big issue with LOST isn't about the ocean; it's about land use control.

This global bureaucracy will justify control of land use to "protect" the marine environment. It isn't hard to see. Many oceanic species breed in estuaries within the United States. Estuarine health isn't doing very well for a number of reasons (many of which politicized science will conveniently miss). The estuaries are fed by rivers. The rivers are lined with cities.

Marine sanctuaries and global biospheres are model for what is planned for LOST. If all we accomplish is to alter the treaty to gain protection for our military, we will have missed the point.

LOST is a straitjacket fully capable of crippling this nation (which certainly affects its ability to defend itself). That the White House says it knows nothing about it belies the fact that, according to the email I get from ALRA, the White House and Chuck Hagel are the instigators in pushing this treaty through in the dark of night after the Reagan Administration had rejected it out of hand.


27 posted on 02/16/2005 6:17:09 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Coleus

...Thanks to Liz
28 posted on 02/16/2005 6:22:58 PM PST by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was a 'war hero' too... before he became a TRAITOR!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Good one, Seadog Bytes!


29 posted on 02/16/2005 6:27:48 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: pbrown

Makes me think some of my tinfoil hat wearing friends are correct about Bush when I see he will sign the treaty.


30 posted on 02/16/2005 6:29:08 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Carry_Okie
For people who don't understand what LOST and agenda 21 is...it's hard to explain in a few words exactly what is at stake. America as we know it will be no more.

The nexus of it is the UN. It is so twisted and intertwined with roads leading in all directions so as to confuse anyone trying to disect it. But disect it people can...if they have the guts to follow it through to where it ends up.

31 posted on 02/16/2005 6:29:46 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: satchmodog9
This and his amnesty program is where we part company. God Bless Dubya, but I pray he thinks twice before signing away Americas sovenerity....piecemeal.
32 posted on 02/16/2005 6:32:22 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus

Tell Condi that...in her confirmation she was asked if LOST would be ratified....CONDI SAID YES!!!


33 posted on 02/16/2005 6:34:45 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Carry_Okie
LBJ signed the United Nations' World Heritage Treaty, a treaty that creates "World Heritage Sites and Biosphere Reserves." These landmarks have been under U.N. mandate since 1972 and 68 percent of all U.S. national parks, monuments and preserves have been designated as World Heritage Sites.

This includes the Statue of Liberty, Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello, the Washington Monument, the Brooklyn Bridge, Yellowstone National Park, Yosemite, the Florida Everglades and the Grand Canyon - to name just a few.

It boils down to controlling us or most likely profiting from us. It's disgusting.

If Bush approves this, we would deserve Hitlery. If we have become so apathetic to allow conservatives to bow to tyranny, we need a wake-up call. Maybe Hill can jolt America more than 9-11. I pray we never have to find out.

34 posted on 02/16/2005 6:44:26 PM PST by lizma
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To: lizma
Their having the Liberty Bell sticks in my craw as well.

How ass-backwards is that? Our symbols of freedom, are in the hands of the very people who are taking our freedoms.

It defies logic, rhyme and reason.

35 posted on 02/16/2005 6:51:33 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Our governments in this country at all levels are taking our freedoms. We are all fools for thinking we are free. Just try not paying your property tax for a year or two.


36 posted on 02/16/2005 6:58:05 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: pbrown
For people who don't understand what LOST and agenda 21 is...it's hard to explain in a few words exactly what is at stake. America as we know it will be no more.

You're telling me?

37 posted on 02/16/2005 6:59:05 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Still Thinking

"Some elements of the world community are without a doubt worthy of contempt."

I would go further and state the majority are without a doubt worthy of contempt. Most would like nothing better than to end the sovereignty of the United States and begin the income redistribution to the UN.


38 posted on 02/16/2005 7:05:50 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: satchmodog9
We can take comfort in the fact that they can't put us all in jail. If we could stage a one day shut-down in this country, that would get our elected leaders attention.

Then we can tell them what we want. That's why we elected them in the first place, to do our bidding, something they have forgotten.

39 posted on 02/16/2005 7:06:06 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

"None of us can figure out why they support it. At first Bush was against it, but not now."

If I had to venture a guess, it's the administrations way of trying to mend the "fences" broken due to the Iraq war and really, it doesn't matter what their reasons. This will be a very bad thing for us all if signed.


40 posted on 02/16/2005 7:08:09 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Carry_Okie
Property rights. People who don't know about the topics we are discussing, property rights are right in with it as well.

It is an understatement when I say it is all encompassing.

41 posted on 02/16/2005 7:09:16 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Coleus

LOST is a kick ass show....oh wait....nevermind


42 posted on 02/16/2005 7:10:38 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: pbrown

"Then we can tell them what we want. That's why we elected them in the first place, to do our bidding, something they have forgotten."

Yes! This is exactly right. In a way, we are living with the government we deserve because we will not vote these folks out of office.


43 posted on 02/16/2005 7:11:21 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Wolfhound777
I would rather see this country erupt in civil war than handed to the UN for redistribution.

I hope they don't suspend me for that statement. But this is your country, my country, all freedom loving Americans country.

We'll see.

If signed, it will be the end of us. How we have let down our fore fathers and their fight for America if this is allowed to happen. All who have died fighting for America in the past and present will be but a footnote in history.

44 posted on 02/16/2005 7:19:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Wolfhound777

I helped elect Bush. I didn't count on his willing to sign America over to the UN though.


45 posted on 02/16/2005 7:21:24 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Wolfhound777

But ballots don't come with a box for "none of the above". Once it gets to election day, we can only vote for the most conservative guy on the ballot. Before election day, I'll grant you that we can work to educate others, and to try to encourage like minded people to run, but come election day, what are you going to do?


46 posted on 02/16/2005 7:21:42 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: pbrown

It's been a low profile long drawn out process. I believe it all starts with the indoctrination going on on our public schools. We are not educating productive members of american society, but "good little communists".


47 posted on 02/16/2005 7:21:57 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Still Thinking

You do have a point, but since we can only vote for the "most conservative" guy or gal, if they don't do our bidding, they go home after one term and we try the next person.


48 posted on 02/16/2005 7:23:14 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Wolfhound777
Agreed. It starts with the minds of our children. Making them into good little communists.

You couldn't pay a news organization to put this subject on the 5:00 news. They are leftist, and they agree with it.

What chance do we have...sorry to say, none.

49 posted on 02/16/2005 7:27:16 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Presidents that belong to the rats are always dangerous to the future of this country.

FDR introduced socialism.

LBJ gave us this UN mess, plundered social security and destroyed the black family.

Carter sold the Panama canal to communist (That one is a pay later deal), put gas and interest prices through the roof and created a bigger mess in the mideast.

The Rapist sold sensitive technology to communist China for his re-election fund while gopher Al took the teeth out his airline security report for payola and the two happily set up a system to make 9-11 work. But nearly half of the country voted for sKerry, a guy who believes that tyranny is best for the "unwashed".

We're in big trouble

50 posted on 02/16/2005 7:31:06 PM PST by lizma
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